Even a small percentage is too much?

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How do people come up woth these statistics :lmao:, noone should ever take statistics like that seriously I'm surprised people do :lmao:. The reason is, there's no way to actually do a statistic on how many muslims are terrorist because a statistic like that is either highly inflated or deflated sonce the statistic does not adjust itself for shocks amd thus is not concrete nor should it be taken seriously. Anyway, nobody should take trump seriously as he's not just going to walk into office and start making laws, that is FAR from how politics operates. besides there are many steps that government must take before a law can be implemented from an economical perspective yes indeed if government worked that fast and efficiently. Trump is neither right nor wrong if anything he's playing on both the emotions and the intelligence of the American people. A recent poll suggested that a certain group of republicans "are so bully on war they are willing to bomb a fictional city". I admire that Trump wants to do something but all he's doing is talking about possibilities not plausibilities. You can't bar a certain group from entering the United States otherwise you'd be hurting not only trade but people there will feel as if ISIS is right and thus ISIS will spawn more members and this will create problems in Europe which will indieectly spawn peoblems in the U.S. unless Europe as a whole switches to the dollar which is extremely unlikely to happen. Stomping out terrorism is like trying to stomp out ideals you cannot simply crush ideals by killing people who believe in those ideals especially if fiercely. Doing nothing is also dangerous in order to crush ISIS you cannot crush them physically that's just impeding their efforts not really solving them. You need to crush their ideals, and thus spawning less support. It isn't easy but it's doable.

Also to the guy that said Islam is a major threat, that's like saying guns are a major threat. Islam is an ideal, guns are just objects, it's the people that are the issue. People are so readily to blame an abiotic variable instead of themselves, this narcissism is quite disturbing. I know "qualified" people who have been wrong, heck most of the nations' biggest problems in history are spawned from Harvard graduates. The fallacy is thinking that just because someone has done more than you and studied harder than you makes them better and never wrong in an area is indeed a fallacy. It's this type if subjugation to the "intellectual" that superseded thought of one's own mind. It's not the religion it's the person. Government is not a system of data or rules. It is people that make decisions based on special interest and it's the same for many other sects.
 
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Trump isn't in any way a knowledgeable man when it comes to politics and culture clashes. He just says what people want to hear to boost popularity.

On another note; Ofcourse, most muslims are peaceful but fact remains islamists and general middle-eastern and north-african immigrants are a cancer to progressive societies.

Here's a nice explanation: [video=youtube;Ry3NzkAOo3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s[/video]
 

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Nah, I'd rather not.

It's amazingly adorable how you think that they know what they're even talking about.

Lmao. Ofcourse anyone who disagrees with your view is automatically wrong.
 

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First of all OP, your numbers are wrong. If we go by Wahabi Islam, what you consider terrorism, terrorists number in the thousands. There are over 1.5 billion muslims in the world. Thats not anywhere close to 5 -10 percent. Second, the Nazi and terrorists do not compare. That is an insult to the victims of a organized criminal government that managed to kill millions and start a world war. What did terrorists do? Oh yeah kill people in their sand dunes while stealing oil. Third, I remember you posted you wanted to nuke the middle east once on a thread. If your hatred is that strong, I do not believe you are that intelligent because that blinds rational thought.
 
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Trump isn't in any way a knowledgeable man when it comes to politics and culture clashes. He just says what people want to hear to boost popularity.

On another note; Ofcourse, most muslims are peaceful but fact remains islamists and general middle-eastern and north-african immigrants are a cancer to progressive societies.

Here's a nice explanation: [video=youtube;Ry3NzkAOo3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s[/video]

It's a nice video and very informative but she did not answer the woman's question at all. The woman's question was "how do you fight an idealogical war" that was completely ignored maybe this is addressed in a seoerate segment but in the clip shown she danced around that question. The point stands that one cannot simply squash ideology with just physical violence. In all of the examples of the wars she gave, the udeologies of those times where crushed by two things, the radicals lost the war and thus lost the direct support of any who supported them. Even in America, the ideal of segregation was stomped oit not jist with physical force but laws and reeducation but I digress each ideaology gas different ways of being eradicated or at least vastly supppressed.

Yes, the "radicals" are responsible, but one must realize that diring the times of "radical" oppressionment the government didn't really allow citizens any other choice. Germany was a dictatorship, Russia was pure communist, Japan was also ruled by the few. Of course the peaceful are irrelevant in radical government such as oppressive dictatorships. And the framing is incirrect as she said a "few" islamist and other radicals that live in specified areas are indeed bad for other countries. The one thing that is unignorable are the oeaceful, when you ignore the peaceful you realize that the peaceful soon become radical. It's like ignoring the first son and paying attention only to the second son then asking why the first son acts so rebellious now. I don't disagree with you, radicals must be eliminated or more realistically, suppressed tremendously. The downside is the ability to do this would start....unpleasant controversial topics to Americans. It is possibly though, but doing so without wasting unecesaary resources.
 

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Don't feed the troll people. .-.
 

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Being too PC would result in the collapse of civilization. We must say what needs to be said.

No one is denying that the Zionists and Palestinians constantly hack eachother into pieces

I only brought up Zionists cuz you brought up Muslims. 5%-10% wouldn't be a problem if US didn't go around snoopin in the Middle East.
 

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I only brought up Zionists cuz you brought up Muslims. 5%-10% wouldn't be a problem if US didn't go around snoopin in the Middle East.

Neather side of the palastini or isrial are innocent kittens so it was rather pointless to point out each are idiotic in their own right and now onto other matters the leaders that were leading at the time fooled everyone and used a terrible tragedy to put forth their own agendas
 

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As far as this whole isis issue goes ignoring it and just droping bombs wont be enough unless you drop naplm and bomb the citys to ruin to kill isis and their supporters and there will be collatoral damage but the safety of the many needs to be looked for instead of aiming to save those few as cold as it sounds
 

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Neather side of the palastini or isrial are innocent kittens so it was rather pointless to point out each are idiotic in their own right and now onto other matters the leaders that were leading at the time fooled everyone and used a terrible tragedy to put forth their own agendas

Trust me I know both aren't innocent yeah leaders are a mess over there....
 

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There was no German problem as there isn't a Muslim problem. What is your point?

In your thread you said "Maybe Trump was right". Trump says we have a Muslim problem. We don't, as you pointed out. So clearly he was wrong. That was the point.

As far as your rant about political correctness..no. I don't think you understand what political correctness is beyond "only saying nice things". Typical for most people. You should look up the history. Political correctness isn't just simply not offending anyone. The political correct actions of a nation are based on that political system's traditions. Example: America taking in Syrian refugees despite the risk involved is politically correct for America not because "it'st the nice thing to do"....it's because we historically take in refugees in times of crisis.

If Trump would be so wrong, why are top atheists like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and late Christopher Hitchens been saying that islam is not a religion of peace and that the problem is much bigger than just the extremists?

Why is China banning islamic customs?

Really bruh? Why are the top ATHEISTS trying to insinuate the problem is the entire religion rather than just the extremists? You soloed yourself.



You're wrong. We have a muslim problem here in Europe and being PC is what started it. Don't be so naive.

I already made an ownage thread about this:

Actually I'm not wrong. You're just talking out of your ass. "We have a muslim problem here in Europe" is not "the world has a Muslim problem". Sorry but you guys aren't any more special than anyone else.
 

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To be honest, Hitchens should be considered an extremist since he supports Iraq war...
 

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Curt's nonsensical post doing the rounds eh?

Totally ridiculous. That Nazi percentage only accounts for those who joined the party, and not the ones who fought for Nazi Germany for fear/support of the ideology anyway. It also conveniently forgets that IS don't have a ruler dictating they join and fight, and that radical Muslims are mainly killing other Muslims, where Nazi Germany were killing everyone who wasn't a heterosexual German.
 

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Curt's nonsensical post doing the rounds eh?

Totally ridiculous. That Nazi percentage only accounts for those who joined the party, and not the ones who fought for Nazi Germany for fear/support of the ideology anyway. It also conveniently forgets that IS don't have a ruler dictating they join and fight, and that radical Muslims are mainly killing other Muslims, where Nazi Germany were killing everyone who wasn't a heterosexual German.
You are mostly right they are killing anyone who isnt apart of their version of islam and any good islamist should stand and fight because there is no where to run isis is mostly everywhere
 

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First of all OP, your numbers are wrong. If we go by Wahabi Islam, what you consider terrorism, terrorists number in the thousands. There are over 1.5 billion muslims in the world. Thats not anywhere close to 5 -10 percent. Second, the Nazi and terrorists do not compare. That is an insult to the victims of a organized criminal government that managed to kill millions and start a world war. What did terrorists do? Oh yeah kill people in their sand dunes while stealing oil. Third, I remember you posted you wanted to nuke the middle east once on a thread. If your hatred is that strong, I do not believe you are that intelligent because that blinds rational thought.

If terrorists can have their way, most of everyone would be dead. That is their ideology. The worst possible.

Given time, they may reach the power and influence of the Nazis. That is why it is important to purge radically violent movements when they are small before they become like Nazis.
 

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5 to 10% muslims are extermists, on what these percentages are based ? do I always need to remind you of science methodology WTF go to school
 

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5 to 10% muslims are extermists, on what these percentages are based ? do I always need to remind you of science methodology WTF go to school

It's just one of those threads that would degenerate into some shit.
 

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The fact that 1/10 are extremists should be alarming
 
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