[VS] Ace vs Nekomamushi/Inuarashi
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Do the dukes have Haki? Most people in the New World do, and i find it hard to believe they lasted 5 days against Jack without it, but we don't actually know if they have it.
If they do, it's a one sided stomp by the Dukes
If they do, it's a one sided stomp by the Dukes
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No doubt, fools used to be oooh we love Ace he's the best just because he showed up at Alabasta with a cool attitude now they can't downplay him fast enough, The son of Roger, the man groomed by WB to be the next PK, the man who used his conq haki as a child, the man who survived in the New World as a Logia where Logia are said to die fast due to arrogance(also I like how people give the dukes the benefit of having Haki for being in NW but not Ace), the man who was shown to be above Sabo and Luffy when they were all known to be alive at the same times.
So are the dukes' haki feats....
Ace wins both, higher end of mid-dif
Neither are Jack's level, both had rest in between fights and couldn't put down Jack who most likely didn't whip out his hybrid mode. Jack being Marco level without his full power is a joke.
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They have haki 100% sure, that cat even knew all about that zou zou fruit.. ace doesn't stand a chance.
Please show me their haki.....Please I will wait, nor does haki secure a W against Ace. It's funny how everyone gets the benefit of the doubt for having haki, everyone bar Ace.
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Marco was said to be the one capable of bringing down Teach along with YONKO's only .. So , Marco is potrayed as a character strong enough to be yonko , so he is definitely above Jack (Just my opinion Though) .. As for ace vs dukes , i think it can go either way , dukes are potrayed to be very strong and as for ace we have seen impressive feats from him , like he was even nominated for a shichibukai at young age , got to second wb commander very quick, I think ace high diff
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Shows what type of person you are, ofcourse I can't 'show' their haki.. chill bro that's just what I'm thinking, truth be told Ace is weak.
Jack would probably beat Ace like the weak version of BB did, having said that the Dukes would win too if you ask me, proof comes maybe later so don't try to win from a speculation by saying obvious things..
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Depends... If they have Haki, that they should have being strong and that in new world; They mid diff. at max...
People arguing if the Dukes have haki or not when a fodder like Boo from Kanokuni was able to clad his sword in armanent.... ok????
Each one of them was able to stand up to Jack for at least 12 hours per day, there is no doubt Jack is stronger than them but u need high diff or more to not be able to defeat someone for 12 hours or so and Jack is one of the strongest if not the strongest pirate on Kaidos crew, long story short each Duke wins high diff.
Each one of them was able to stand up to Jack for at least 12 hours per day, there is no doubt Jack is stronger than them but u need high diff or more to not be able to defeat someone for 12 hours or so and Jack is one of the strongest if not the strongest pirate on Kaidos crew, long story short each Duke wins high diff.
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1. Unconsciously using Conqueror's as a child means nothing. Like the other forms of Haki, Ace, when in times that using it would have been a great option, did not. There's more indication Ace didn't use Haki over Ace using Haki.
2. Okay? He's the son of Roger, and? It's not like that means he's on Roger's level. Good genes and potential? Sure. Did he reach that potential? Most likely not. Doesn't matter what Ace could have been, what matters is what he got to.
3. Ace was on the sea for like, what, 2-3 years? Sure, he got a massive boost in strength like Luffy did, but that doesn't mean he's uber strong.
No one is downplaying Ace, we just aren't overhyping him like before. Ace was a decent fighter, but was snuffed before he got to being a great fighter.
Marco was said to be a possibility, the fact that BB took all of WBs territory and is now a Yonko proves that Marco and crew couldn't beat Teach and crew, you either agree to that or believe Marco never tried for some dumb reason. Marco hasn't done anything to suggest he's on some level above Sabo, Doflamingo, or even G4 Luffy. He just has a fruit that allows him to stall against practically anyone because the fruit will heal any wound no matter who hits him. Other than stalling, Marco couldn't harm the Admirals with any thing, he even had Vistas help against Akainu and the attack only tickled him.
Jacks position in a Yonkos crew added to the fact that his bounty is almost more than half of Aces added to the fact that Jack is either the next villain or a future Villain is enough for me to put him above Ace, who has already been surpassed by Luffy. No way is Luffy still so weak that the next villain or the next next villain is still weaker than Ace.
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Marco had the strength to propel Kizaru, someone who could clash physically with WB. Marco failed to damage any of the Admirals, but the Admirals also failed to damage Marco unless he was distracted. Marco is definitely below the Admirals, but I doubt he isn't on Luffy's level at the very least.
He can definitely beat G4 Luffy due to bad match up, but he's on Sabo and Doflamingos and G4s level pretty much. Its just that I notice he tends to be put on this pedestal above these guys but weaker than Admirals which I don't understand.