[Discussion] Goku Vs vegeta

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Kaioken isn't base and Goku would win. It's been said he's always a step ahead of Vegeta and Vegeta admitted it in Super. But it seems that Vegeta will be the stronger one at some point.
 

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Kaioken isn't a factor here. If you think they've agreed not to go Super Saiyan, then Goku isn't about to bust out Kaioken. Goku wins just because he's always been stronger than Vegeta in base since the Namek saga.
 

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Before meeting Beerus, Goku would have destroyed Vegeta. Right now, it seems Vegeta is finally learning how to train properly.
The thing is even if vegeta catches up to goku he'll never be able to beat him without plot help unless he has an answer to instant transmission.
 

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Vegeta can react. He moves faster than the kamehameha wave
He can't goku can use it the same way he did against cell and beerus. Both beerus and cell who were faster than goku at those times couldn't avoid it. Vegeta who is at best as fast goku won't be able to avoid it either
 

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He can't goku can use it the same way he did against cell and beerus. Both beerus and cell who were faster than goku at those times couldn't avoid it. Vegeta who is at best as fast goku won't be able to avoid it either
I'm just looking for an excuse. I'm a vegeta fanboy, lol.

I think that move is OP and unfair. It's so OP that makes every battle stupid. It's like Kakashi's kamui lol.
 

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They are equal in terms of power, but Goku has instant transmission. I hope Vegeta gets a new skill in the future, to become equal to Goku overall. Would be cool.
 
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