[VS] Jack vs Doffy
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TenseiganFTW
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Doffy can't win since Oda always brings up stronger and stronger villains or else there wont be any hype right?Jack wins mid diff
jiraiya lives
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Jack... In more time than it took G4 luffy to beat Dofly but at an easier difficulty
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Skull Knight
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False^
Crocodile, Enel, Arlong, Moria were all stronger then Celestial Dragons shown in Sabody Arch arc.
As for OT: Yep Jack wins. No doubt about it.
chopstickchakra
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We've seen one showing from Jack, don't know what haki he has or if he's awakened his DF. Everybody says we can't assume and accredit(even though a yonko sub ordinate and 1bil bounty should have at least armament haki) undemonstrated skills regardless of how much sense it makes for them to have it so as of now Jack doesn't have a haki good enough to contest Doffy plus his conq haki. Jack may be able to beat him but even Fujitora(for some weird reason) couldn't break Birdcage and Jack isn't stronger than Fujitora. Just because he's introduced after Doffy doesn't equate to him being stronger(though it's likely and a strong possibility) he's an underling Doffy is a captain so there's still the window that their levels are relatively closer than people are assuming.
jiraiya lives
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I believe that Jack has long ranged attacks from his trunk for aerial based fighters... just a hunch for now
Marco wasn't a captain and he's generally agreed to be a good deal stronger than Doflamingo, Jack is a captain and so is Marco but they both work under a Yonko. Doflamingo worked under Kaido too, so no that logic doesn't work.
Also you used Birdcage seriously? Its completely useless in a 1 on 1 fight, and the technique is clearly much stronger than Doflamingo himself considering the whole country of DR including Fujitora could barely halt it.
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chopstickchakra
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Primarily because of his DF's ability though, no other WB commander is generally accepted being stronger than Doffy not even Diamond Jozu who iirc Doffy got with Parasite.
I didn't say they had to be close in strength I said they're probably closer than people are acting. Doffy worked under/with Jack works for Kaido, Doffy is head of his group Jack is head of a sub group, if you're gonna sit here and act like they're really the same positions we have nothing left to discuss. And for the record Doffy never worked "under" Kaido, Kaido never gave orders to Doffy they had a partnership with Kaido being the dominant one.
How is it useless in a fight? You put a big(presumably slower) enemy in a shrinking cage and dodge him as the cage shrinks around him. Unless Jack can fly, had Doffy made a cage like DR and hung out at the top while it shrunk what could he do? Just because the attack is stronger than the user doesn't mean it's no longer a viable argument, that's like saying "Edo Tensei is stronger than the user who casts it so it's not fair to consider since it gives my opinion less ground to stand on"
Using Jack working under someone as proof of Doflamingo being close to him in strength doesn't even make sense, they are close but you brought it up as if it mattered. With that kind of logic pre skip Luffy should be stronger than Jack cause he's a captain and not working under anyone, that's all I'm saying bro.
True but it wouldn't make him the stronger of the two, BC is indestructible. If DD ran from Akainu while in BC and only won because he flew All the way to top and Akainu couldn't reach him up there, would you say DD is >Akainu? No because its a cheap ass way to win. If you found it necessary to hide and run away from your opponent you already loss.
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Son Ryuto Uzumaki
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Im pretty sure Jack, being the left hand of a yonko, would beat Doflomingo. Much like Marco, being the right/left hand of a yonko, would beat Doflamingo. Much like Benn Beckmen, being a right hand of a yonko, would beat doflamingo.
Dęvîa Puęrî
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Why would it be completely useless why couldn't he wrap it around someone also we don't know how jack fights I guess by hype from bounty and being so high in kaido crew yes
But at same time nothing really proves or backs this his fruit is a mammoth tbh I'm kind of having hard time seeing jack fight any aerial fighter fbh... As guy stated above if I was doffy or if the fight was to happen it would b best if doffy stayed in sky to keep himself from harm as well as have as much access to clouds as possible ..... But yeah I would no place him over doffy just yet ... There is reason Jack went to save doffy (other then potentially kaido wanting to kill him) we still have not found out what doffy has over the marines .. And if he wanted more smiles he could just simply go after Caesar ... Tho he wants doffy specifically ....
I personally just want to see more feats from Jack cuz like I said b4 I have hard time seeing Jack fight any aerial (and can add fast char for the matter) due to what his devil fruit is and the close combat like type he seems sure the gas weapon seems to make up for this but even that doffy can easily avoid if he stays In air
FloriGlori
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I feel like even though Jack's been hyped up a lot recently, he's not enough to take out Doflamingo. High - extreme diff for Doffy, though.