[Discussion] So a tired Jack...

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LOL what?
You said they would fight him together to decrease the damages which would be ok, but as I said the same logic can apply to otsuru since having two guards is less risky than having one VC

Which is why one distracting him as the other attacked his ship to sink would be a pretty good strategy to end the conflict as quickly as possible.
That's not fighting him together though, oh well, just my two cents could go either way tbh.
 

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You said they would fight him together to decrease the damages which would be ok, but as I said the same logic can apply to otsuru since having two guards is less risky than having one VC

That's not fighting him together though, oh well, just my two cents could go either way tbh.
Or send two people who can overwhelm him and sink his ship, ending the incident quickly, rather than drawing it out longer than it needs to be by going one by one. You don't need two people guarding the prisoner when you can have your forces attack together and overwhelm the intruder before he can even get near.
 

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The incident doesn't make any character look strong or weak since thats what seems to be worrying people. Your convo carrying an extremely dangerous criminal(and his whole crew) in open waters with no ability to swim is being ambushed. Common sense would say end the perpetrator as quickly as possible so it makes sense for Fujitora and Sengoku to gang up on Jack.

Its no different than Kuzan and Rayleigh jumping Kidd to knock him out as quickly as possible because he has a bomb that would kill 1 million people, but their homes were destroyed in the process with Kidd escaping a bloody mess.
 

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Smh this thread is full of idiots that need Oda to spoon feed them information. All you need is common sense in order to realize that Jack fought Sengoku and Fujitora together.
 
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Or send two people who can overwhelm him and sink his ship, ending the incident quickly, rather than drawing it out longer than it needs to be by going one by one. You don't need two people guarding the prisoner when you can have your forces attack together and overwhelm the intruder before he can even get near.
I agree with this, definitely what happened, I feel like sinking ships is no big deal for top tiers and it probably happened very quickly causing fuji and buddha to go on the offense, hype behind jack still unreal though cause his character survived 2 admirals after fighting for like 6 days straight
 

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Sinking 2 boats ain't that much of a feat in OP world so meh

Jack is still a savage doe
It is when you have an admiral, a former admiral, and three vice admirals defending those ships. Keep in mind that one of Jack's men said that a fleet of that size could destroy a country, so the ships should be pretty big.
 

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It is when you have an admiral, a former admiral, and three vice admirals defending those ships. Keep in mind that one of Jack's men said that a fleet of that size could destroy a country, so the ships should be pretty big.
Tsuru, Fujitora and Sengoku were all in the same ship so nah, just by doing a surprise attack from the back Jack would've rekt 2 ships without them even realizing it
 

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Tsuru, Fujitora and Sengoku were all in the same ship so nah, just by doing a surprise attack from the back Jack would've rekt 2 ships without them even realizing it
Do you have any proof that they were all on one ship? Also, the ships have lookouts, so they should have spotted the Hundred Beast Pirates before they were within range to attack.
 
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Do you have any proof that they were all on one ship? Also, the ship have lookouts, so they should have spotted the Hundred Beast Pirates before they were within range to attack.
My fingers are crossed. I hope one of those 2 ships Jack sunk contained the executives(not Pica, Trebol or Diamante). Since Jack got messed up, he obviously had to have fought the admirals and no matter happened, there was going to be some collateral damage whether its from cannon fire, the impact of Jack's trunk or just being knocked around the ships.
 

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My fingers are crossed. I hope one of those 2 ships Jack sunk contained the executives(not Pica, Trebol or Diamante). Since Jack got messed up, he obviously had to have fought the admirals and no matter happened, there was going to be some collateral damage whether its from cannon fire, the impact of Jack's trunk or just being knocked around the ships.
Why do you want the executives to die?
 

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If one of the sunken ships contained them, then 8 out of the 10 executives would drown to death since they are DF users.
Not really. Jack is a DF user but he escaped on something. They could've used the wreckage like a raft and have Jora alter it with her DF to make more standard for sea travel(Jora used her ability on the Sunny that was obviously floating on water).
 

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Alright I am still trying to wrap my head around people trying to think that the Admirals wouldn't team-up to take out Jack. They would obviously know who the hell he is, and who he works under so there is no chance in hell they would go easy on him. Even if they were on different ships, the formation the ships were in, the two could have easily gotten to one another's ship with little to no difficulty, especially Fujitora.

Now also considering that dog guy (his name escapes me atm), if I recall correctly when he was talking about Jack, said they had read or heard about his Obituary now that generally means the sum ***** is dead. But as common law dictates, no ones considered dead till you see the body. So the Marines/World Government could easily say Jack is dead in a botched attempt to free Doflamingo, but in reality could have captured him in an attempt to lure Kaido out.
 

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If one of the sunken ships contained them, then 8 out of the 10 executives would drown to death since they are DF users.
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At least Fuji and Sengoku were so even if Tsuru was in another ship it still would've been fairly easy to destroy the other 2
 

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Smh this thread is full of idiots that need Oda to spoon feed them information. All you need is common sense in order to realize that Jack fought Sengoku and Fujitora together.

Not necessarily. Anything is possible at this point for we don't actually know what really happened during the clash. There is no definitive proof to say that they both fought him so calling them idiots just because they disagree with you isn't really cool. Jack requiring two admirals to get beaten that too after when he battled Dukes for 5 whole days without any break sounds a bit over exaggerated to me. I don't think they'd just leave the ship that was carrying Joker unprotected for the sake of fighting Jack when he's going around and destroying the ships and we don't even know if all of them are being held captive in same ship.

For all we know he would have beaten by one of those 3(Likely Fujitora) when two of them are guarding the ships that are carrying criminals or two of them fought Jack with the remaining protecting the ship. There is nothing wrong with thinking that he was beaten by one as there is no definitive proof from manga to say that he'd fare any better than Marco against an admiral. Assuming that he as capable as Marco, he doesn't require two admirals to be beaten.
 
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