Can someone explain: Hashi > Tsunade (Healing)

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Smh

"Same ability Hashirama possessed"

But you forgot that he pointed out she was inferior or around his range?

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Hashirama was capable of doing this without the Byakguou, and from memory, without hand signs either.
Don't be moist and respond to me indirectly, very flawed.

(1) When did Madara ever say that The Strength Of A 100 was inferior to Hashi's healing power or that the quality of the healing was less-then? I mean I'm not trying to get fresh but I honestly don't remember that scan, panel or anything else.

(2) No Hand Signs = doesn't equal no initiation, meaning that Hashi's healing didn't work without admission, one can even argue that the conduit of his healing power stems from his SM.

I just noticed something. Before I believed that Hashirama was able to insta-heal at any point in time, but that is not the case. I believe he can only heal while in Sage Mode.


Let me go back and post what Madara said about Hashirama's healing.

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He first mentions that he can heal without the use of Hand-Seals, which Madara later acknowledges Tsunade's Yin Seal of Rebirth tech to be exactly like Hashirama's healing.

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Next, most people were dumbfounded to the fact that Hashirama could commit suicide and bleed from Madara's battle if he were able to heal instantly. But notice, that in those instances he wasn't in Sage Mode.


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So here is where I noticed something that most people may have missed. When Madara possessed Hashirama's Sage Mode, he fought with Sasuke and had a sword pierce through his bicep. Afterwards, Madara's wound healed.



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So what does it all mean? To Summarize

-Hashirama can only heal without seals while in Sage Mode

-Madara now possesses Hashirama's Sage Mode and can utilize the same healing ability.

What RustledRasta?
I was giving you a complement in regards to your witty and funny response but you've decided to take the fck-boy route.
 
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Tsunade's regular healing is inferior to hashi's but her bykugo is not.

In fact the forehead seal can restore missing organs and possibly limbs something hashirama's healing can't do.

Tsunade normal healing<<hashirama's normal healing<<SM hashirama healing<< Byakugo healing
 

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Madara stated that Tsunade's healing was inferior to Hashirama's, before she activated her seal.

Fact being, Hashirama's healing is superior to her's at that moment. Tsunade later activates the seal, and then Madara states that their healing is on the same level, or close to.

However, unlike Tsunade, Hashirama is capable of accessing the same leveling of healing she has with the Byakguou activated, without it. Meaning he is superior. Tsunade needs the Byakguou to have the same healing power Hashirama has.

3rd grade simplicity
 
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The fourth databook pretty much said it outright.

Jin no Sho said:
[Healing Ability]

''Further worthy of admiration is his recovery ability. Commanding high-level ninja healing arts, he can heal wounds even without making hand gestures. His body itself brimming with vitality, those with Hashirama’s cells have heightened healing ability. To this day, there is no ninja existing who surpasses this power.''
It was written when Tsunade's abilities were well known to everyone, and it still said ''no ninja exists''. There's also the fact that Hashirama's chakra quantity >>> Tsunade's, so he can keep it up a lot longer. The manga, on the other hand, made them out to be equal, since Madara said ''same ability as Hashirama'' the first time he witnessed the seal.

So it's: SM Hashirama >= Byakugou Tsunade in healing.

SM hashirama healing<< Byakugo healing
Yeah, no.
 
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I think Hashi's healing is better because
1)It doesnot require any seal. It is automatic
2)no need to store chakra
3)no need to learn any healing/medical nin Jutsu
4) Obito never became blind because of Hashi's DNA. His hand also got repaired
5)with Hashi's DNA or whatever they used Naruto got a new arm
 

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Shaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Well I too agree with this.



Elaborate.



Wrong, BZ writes the laws.



I did.

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Modesty at the most but that could be interpreted in many ways.

Medical ninjutsu doesn't equate to self-healing necessarily.



(1) We factually don't know the mechanics behind his healing powers so who's to say he didn't store chakra like you've stated so that doesn't really hold up either way.

(2) it seems here that when Hashi activated his SM (made a hand sign) the minor wounds on his face healed.




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Well we will assume so until told otherwise, even if he needed hand signs and stored chakra that wouldnt change the fact that the person who knew hashiramas moveset inside and out thought that hashirama was better at healing.
 

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The fourth databook pretty much said it outright.



It was written when Tsunade's abilities were well known to everyone, and it still said ''no ninja exists''. There's also the fact that Hashirama's chakra quantity >>> Tsunade's, so he can keep it up a lot longer. The manga, on the other hand, made them out to be equal, since Madara said ''same ability as Hashirama'' the first time he witnessed the seal.

So it's: SM Hashirama >= Byakugou Tsunade in healing.
Yeah, no.
That so? My mistake then
 

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It's a mangafact that Hashirama's is better.
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Madara wouldn't spend 2 pages wanking Hashirama's healing power if it was > than Tsunades. Not to mention,
Hashirama's healing power allowed rinne tensei Madara to keep on fighting after getting smacked around by the bijuu. He even said because he had it allowed him to not fight as seriously. Given the that Madara only had a watered down version of this healing from the man boob he had. We can assume Prime Hashirama's is even stronger than what was shown in the manga.
 

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Your way of giving compliments is extra ordinary. Only those with a pint sized brains would understand it.
This coming from the leader of the feeble minded.

Shaz if your gonna throw shots don't windmill like a b!tch because I certainly won't.

Tsunade's regular healing is inferior to hashi's but her bykugo is not.

In fact the forehead seal can restore missing organs and possibly limbs something hashirama's healing can't do.

Tsunade normal healing<<hashirama's normal healing<<SM hashirama healing<< Byakugo healing
This is actually the answe I was looking for.

If people learned how to read, we wouldn't have any problems. Madara stated that Tsunade's healing was inferior to Hashirama's, before she activated her seal.

Fact being, Hashirama's healing is superior to hers at that moment. Tsunade later activates the seals, and then Madara states that their healing is on the same level, or close to.

However, unlike Tsunade, Hashirama is capable of accessing the same leveling of healing she has with the Byakguou activated, without it. Meaning he is superior. Common sense here.
If people could read? Damn your moist XD

Based on your indirectness and the dismissiveness of your post, you're the one with the problems.

(1) How does Tsunade having to make ONE HANDSIGN to imitation her healing abilities make the quality of her healing ability lower than her grandfathers?

Example being when Tsunades make direct contact with madara's Fire Jutsu, the burn wounds instantly healed.

But here you clearly see a burn wound or some type of laceration on Hashi's upper arm but it didn't heal automatically right? Or does you eyes not work like your brain?

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Which brings me to repost the argument that you have no counter to lol.

I just noticed something. Before I believed that Hashirama was able to insta-heal at any point in time, but that is not the case. I believe he can only heal while in Sage Mode.


Let me go back and post what Madara said about Hashirama's healing.

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He first mentions that he can heal without the use of Hand-Seals, which Madara later acknowledges Tsunade's Yin Seal of Rebirth tech to be exactly like Hashirama's healing.

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Next, most people were dumbfounded to the fact that Hashirama could commit suicide and bleed from Madara's battle if he were able to heal instantly. But notice, that in those instances he wasn't in Sage Mode.

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So here is where I noticed something that most people may have missed. When Madara possessed Hashirama's Sage Mode, he fought with Sasuke and had a sword pierce through his bicep. Afterwards, Madara's wound healed.



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So what does it all mean? To Summarize

-Hashirama can only heal without seals while in Sage Mode

-Madara now possesses Hashirama's Sage Mode and can utilize the same healing ability.

So again are you still gonna run with your flawed argument? Based on the manga facts above, did Hashi not have to initiate anything to activate his healing power?

Lastly answer the question, when did Madara say the Tsunades regenerative technique was below Hashi's or didn't heal within its range?

It's a mangafact that Hashirama's is better.
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Madara wouldn't spend 2 pages wanking Hashirama's healing power if it was > than Tsunades. Not to mention,
Hashirama's healing power allowed rinne tensei Madara to keep on fighting after getting smacked around by the bijuu. He even said because he had it allowed him to not fight as seriously. Given the that Madara only had a watered down version of this healing from the man boob he had. We can assume Prime Hashirama's is even stronger than what was shown in the manga.
How can Madara's comparison of Hashi's healing power > Tsunades regeneration when he hadn't even seen Tsunades yet.

But after he did see ability he said it was just like his.
 
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Hashi healed automatically
His cells were used to quickly heal body parts ,danzo used his cells to boost his physical energies to allow him to used shisuis eye twice a day,and life-force from narutos kcm made yamatos mokuton grow
Kabuto got uzumaki cells because their life-force makes them heal quickly,uzumakis come from the senju lineage, hashi is ashuras reincarnation
 

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This coming from the leader of the feeble minded.

Shaz if your gonna throw shots don't windmill like a b!tch because I certainly won't.
I don't lead anything besides your destruction.

Are you mad cause Hashirama is the greatest medical ninja in the history of Narutoverse? And that your favorites Sakura and Tsunade don't hold a candle to his genius? Come on now you must be jelly of Hashirama's wood!
 

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How can Madara's comparison of Hashi's healing power > Tsunades regeneration when he hadn't even seen Tsunades yet.

But after he did see ability he said it was just like his.
Just like Indra & Ambivalence stated above
After Madara witnessed Tsunades Byakugo in action he said it was <- That's the Viz btw. However as we're trying to tell you, Hashirama's is better because he was able to do More with less. He didn't need Byakugo.
 
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Rasta I don't think I need to repeat my argument because every question you asked was literally said above three times; Once by Ambivalence, Chaos, and I.
 

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HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT TSUNADE NEED YEARS AFTER YEARS STORE HER CHAKRA IN HER FOREHEAD TO USE BYAKUGOU

THE SAME ABILITY HASHI POSSESSED

WHY HASHI > TSUNADE

1.HASI DONT NEED TO STORE HIS CHAKRA LIKE TSUNADE

2.HASHI'S HEALING WONT SHORTEN HIS LIFE BUT TSUNADE'S HEALING IS SHORTENING HERS LIFE

3.HASHI CAN USE HIS HEALING ANY TIME WITH HIS NORMAL CHAKRA BUT TSUNADE CANT WITHOUT USE OF BYAKUGOU

4.HASHI HAS MORE CAHAKRA THEN TSUNADE
 

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What's there to explain?

-Databook states Hashirama's healing prowess is unsurpassed by any shinobi

-Tsunade admitted inferiority in the manga
 

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Rasta I don't think I need to repeat my argument because every question you asked was literally said above three times; Once by Ambivalence, Chaos, and I.
Rasta is actually right for once, you haven't countered the argument about Hashi utilizing the sage mode to do his healing, in fact you've failed to address it and have resorted to continually posting scans of madara stating something before he saw tsunade's jutsu. Tsunade aint Sakura mane, don't let your hate blind you from forming a decent argument.
 
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Tsunade tops him because she is regenerating and creating new. Calling their tech I questions the same is madaras personal conclusion. The only thing hashi has over her is the Chakra reserves so he does not need the seal to do his jutsu.

But tsunade has shortened life span because her jutsu is more complex in its method and hashi is not so he doesn't get the same drawbacks. Hashi technique works more like sozo seisei by itself when it comes to healing just once. Not so much byakugo which is basically continuous sozo seisei
 
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