[VS] Luffy vs Doffy

[lelerskates]

LOL what? Luffy failed to put down a weakened Doflamingo with Gear 4. How would he put down a 100% Doffy with it, regardless of if he started in it or not? If Luffy couldn't put down Doffy while less tan 100% on his own, he's not gonna be able to do that while Doffy is at a higher level of health and strength.

Can you stop changing your avatar picture? I thought there was another person on these forums who was a copy of you and I almost had a heart attack. Thanks.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Can you stop changing your avatar picture? I thought there was another person on these forums who was a copy of you and I almost had a heart attack. Thanks.

Can your head stop looking like you're the main character of Caillou: Shippuden?

 

[MadaraReturns]

Nah, he asked for help from the others to stop it, and so he kinda already "interfered"

OT: Assuming luffy starts with g4 he high diffs.

He literally did the same with that fake dragon on that island, first he was 'struggling' against his teeth and then he beat him, if he wanted he could've skipped the drama and one shot him from the start

 

[lelerskates]

Can your head stop looking like you're the main character of Caillou: Shippuden?

Can you bake a cake while your mother rims you?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Right. Getting your organs shredded apart to any degree isn't serious. I remember all those people who've had all of their organs torn all at once, but just a little bit, so it was no big deal :| :| :| Cuz air escaping your lungs and internally bleeding can just be shrugged off.

Then how do you explain Dolfamingo's organs dot being destroyed after he was knocked out?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

LOL what? Luffy failed to put down a weakened Doflamingo with Gear 4. How would he put down a 100% Doffy with it, regardless of if he started in it or not? If Luffy couldn't put down Doffy while less tan 100% on his own, he's not gonna be able to do that while Doffy is at a higher level of health and strength.

I'm talking about doffy, if luffy doesn't start with g4 it's mid diff:lol

He literally did the same with that fake dragon on that island, first he was 'struggling' against his teeth and then he beat him, if he wanted he could've skipped the drama and one shot him from the start

What are you talking about my man? we had feats that suggested that zoro would beat That dragon since he cut the kraken tentacles. The bird cage on the other hand required the help of the entire island plus fujitoura to push back, zoro even asked for help, otherwise he would've done it himself, It's plainly obvious that he couldn't do anything to the cage.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Then how do you explain Dolfamingo's organs dot being destroyed after he was knocked out?

Plothole. Doflamingo explicitly stated his organs weren't fixed or healed.

I'm talking about doffy, if luddy doesn't start with g4 it's mid diff:lol

Gotcha.

 

[ssjelf]

Plothole. Doflamingo explicitly stated his organs weren't fixed or healed.


Gotcha.

I don't think its a plothole at all, it just allowed him to function with destroyed organs is all. Consider his health to be how much damage he take before he quits functioning, not how much until his organs are destroyed. He also said that "it wasn't exactly healing", but he did in fact repair them.

 

[ToshiZO]

Then how do you explain Dolfamingo's organs dot being destroyed after he was knocked out?

same way you explain Pell surviving a nuke, every fodder in Thriller Bark surviving Ursus Shock, every fodder surviving in Punk Hazard, Conis' father surviving Enel's judgement, same way Monet and Vergo will be alive when you see them next.

Oda.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't think its a plothole at all, it just allowed him to function with destroyed organs is all. Consider his health to be how much damage he take before he quits functioning, not how much until his organs are destroyed. He also said that "it wasn't exactly healing", but he did in fact repair them.

He "repaired" them by having strings hold them together, allowing them to function. If the organs were held together on their own, without the need of strings, then that would be healing, and he said he didn't heal. It's a plothole

 

[ssjelf]

He "repaired" them by having strings hold them together, allowing them to function. If the organs were held together on their own, without the need of strings, then that would be healing, and he said he didn't heal. It's a plothole

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middle panel but he also said it isnt healing I fail to see how the two cant coexist.

Edit: ah I see well perhaps it doesnt work the way we are thinking, he said it isnt quite healing but in that maybe what he meant is that his cells arent dividing are healing that way. But maybe they can hold themselves together without needing strings after he is done.

 

[Punk Hazard]

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middle panel but he also said it isnt healing I fail to see how the two cant coexist.

I didn't say he didn't. He repaired them, as in, he restored function to them by pulling them together. Thing about that is, if something doesn't keep them together, they'll just fall apart again because he didn't heal them, as he says explicitly. The only thing that can possibly be holding them together, as the flesh didn't fuse back together, is the strings that pulled them together. Doffy going unconscious should have undid them, but it didn't; therefore, plothole.

 

[MadaraReturns]

I'm talking about doffy, if luffy doesn't start with g4 it's mid diff:lol


What are you talking about my man? we had feats that suggested that zoro would beat That dragon since he cut the kraken tentacles. The bird cage on the other hand required the help of the entire island plus fujitoura to push back, zoro even asked for help, otherwise he would've done it himself, It's plainly obvious that he couldn't do anything to the cage.

Funny how you reply on my podt to someone else wheb you appearently didn't read it well, because if you did you'dve known my answer:

It was better to push it back (of course he asks help for pushing a cage that is a size of a island) because if he's chop it, the loose strings would maybe swing all around the city, like when luffy snapped the strings when going in gear 3, the remains blasted into the ground/walls, pushing isn't like cutting with haki if he would push back 3 strings alone, then the other strings would still shrink (IF he could push it back, not saying he can so don't try to make a comeback with a reaction on 'how i think zoro can push back doffy's bird cage'), my point is that ofcourse he asked help to push something back what is way bigger than his arm width, and about the dragon, when he clashed with the dragon it was zoro's swords vs the dragon's teeth, zoro couldn't push the teeth back either but did that mean that he couldn't cut them, answer is no because he did cut him. Point is that even if zoro didn't try to cut the strings, it doesn't mean he couldn't cut them, just like what happened with the dragon......

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Plothole. Doflamingo explicitly stated his organs weren't fixed or healed.


Gotcha.

We don't know exactly how GK works. For all we know, it slowly destroys the organs, so Doflamingo could stitch his organs before too much damage was done.

 

[LBeezy]

Luffy wins.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Funny how you reply on my podt to someone else wheb you appearently didn't read it well, because if you did you'dve known my answer:

eh what?you qouted me my man, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted time arguing, go take a look back.:yeah:

It was better to push it back (of course he asks help for pushing a cage that is a size of a island) because if he's chop it, the loose strings would maybe swing all around the city

zoro doesn't care about the city, a perfect proof would be after he cut pica and the king pushed back the rocks, they fell on the people that were on the other side of the plateau and

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, like when luffy snapped the strings when going in gear 3, the remains blasted into the ground/walls,

when did that happen? this is what happened when luffy used g3

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pushing isn't like cutting with haki if he would push back 3 strings alone, then the other strings would still shrink (IF he could push it back, not saying he can so don't try to make a comeback with a reaction on 'how i think zoro can push back doffy's bird cage'),

That is not my point though. what I'm saying is that if zoro could cut the cage then he would have not bothered pushing it back while needing help

my point is that ofcourse he asked help to push something back what is way bigger than his arm width, and about the dragon, when he clashed with the dragon it was zoro's
vs the dragon's teeth, zoro couldn't push the teeth back either but did that mean that he couldn't cut themanswer is no because he did cut him. Point is that even if zoro didn't try to cut the strings, it doesn't mean he couldn't cut them, just like what happened with the dragon......,

hmm zoro didn't even try to push it though...

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He just stopped the attack and that was about it

 

[KingHashirama]

Luffy - uses his strongest mode on Doffy

Doffy - tanks it and then starts walking to kill Luffy

Luffy - tells the announcer he needs 10 minutes

Doffy - starts taking on the Warriors and etc


So Doflamingo mid-diff.

 

[Rike Senju]

It's a med diff win for Doffy.

 

[saw2097]

I think the question is more if Luffy can use King Kong Gun multiple times, if he had started with that he could probably have beaten Doflamingo.

Why he didn't just do that from the beginning is the real mystery.

The damage from Gamma knife could not have been as severe as most people make it to be, if Law actually shredded Doflamingo's internal organs, sowing them back together would not stop him from dying, it would be instant death.

Doflamingo stopped him before the damage was too severe and the string sowed any damage up.

And as for Gear 4, Luffy was a second away from defeating Doflamingo, even he noted he as just short one blow, so if he had used King Kong Gun from the start, he probably would have won.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I highly doubt KKG>almost an hour's worth of fighting. If that was the case, KKG would have killed Doffy instead of just knocking him out.