[Discussion] M4

[nanadaime]

Considering that the yankos seem too have three strongest members besides themselves who do you think will be the next monster member of the SH crew.
Personally I think it'll be between usopp chopper and Franky. Usopp has already unlocked his haki giving him the biggest chance for now but if Franky gets CoA he would be deadly adding it to his weapons and with the display of will shown in dressrosa its likely he will get it soon enough. Chopper would be a force getting either one because of his fighting style kung fu, arm and monster point with CoO or CoA is dangerous but I don't really see this happening any time soon, what are your thoughts.

 

[Bimbonium]

I think it'll be a new SH, probably jimbe, though I don't want jimbe to join, he seems like the best option for an M4. We already have a DF user, a swordsman and Sanji, so for diversity a Fishman or to a lesser extent logia would be appropriate.

 

[nanadaime]

I think it'll be a new SH, probably jimbe, though I don't want jimbe to join, he seems like the best option for an M4. We already have a DF user, a swordsman and Sanji, so for diversity a Fishman or to a lesser extent logia would be appropriate.

I honestly never considered a new power house joining since everyone other than the M3 has been at or just above average when joining and I kind of spaced on jimbe not seeing him for so long but unofficially he is the M4 being a former warlord and all already confirms his strength so I guess the better question is who'll be the official M4 until jimbe returns and makes it M5 because he already agreed to join after finishing his business

 

[Ripple Hole]

Ussop is destined to become one of them, or else he never truly achieves his goal,
well at least in the reader's eyes I guess. Ussop and co seem satisfied with Ussop
just making an attack and being defeated so idk if Oda wants more from him though.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Took me 3 minutes to realize what M4 means:'

Usopp, Franky or Jinbei btw

 

[A v i]

Law?O_O

 

[keshav31]

Most probably jimbe but for now Frank with Franky general or chopper.He fight well with that in punk hazard against baby 5 & that wing head. Usopp needs more training with observation haki as awakening and controlling are two different things.I also have a weird feeling that we are going to get a new SH(other than jimbe) in this or next arc but with a DF power.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Don't think there will be a M4; just a new monster trio.

Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe as the new M3 with Luffy above them on his own pedestal.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ussop is destined to become one of them, or else he never truly achieves his goal,
well at least in the reader's eyes I guess. Ussop and co seem satisfied with Ussop
just making an attack and being defeated so idk if Oda wants more from him though.

Nope. Oda said no matter who joins, Usopp will always be the weakest. It's never gonna be Usopp. I think it's most likely Jinbei.

 

[MickNerks]

Jimbe or another new crewmate.

Currently if they had to pick one it would probably be Robin (if she has CoA)

 

[nanadaime]

Most probably jimbe but for now Frank with Franky general or chopper.He fight well with that in punk hazard against baby 5 & that wing head. Usopp needs more training with observation haki as awakening and controlling are two different things.I also have a weird feeling that we are going to get a new SH(other than jimbe) in this or next arc but with a DF power.

I'd prefer a mink seems like a match up for nami with the electricity and all but who I don't know

 

[nanadaime]

Jimbe or another new crewmate.

Currently if they had to pick one it would probably be Robin (if she has CoA)

I can see why you'd say robin with CoA but over Franky! I just don't see her being that big a threat if that's the case nami is deadly with CoA I'm not sure on how but she could apply it to the weather eggs maybe strengthening the lightning or CoO being able to spot people from great distances and create weather accordingly mastering both she could possible preform feats like what dragon did in logetown I believe it was called but this is all just speculations honestly all the SH's have the potential to become freaks lol

 

[Tomato God]

Remember at orange town when it was the sniper the captian and the two strongest in the crew in a four versus four. It is like that not because an my just because that's ussops job (to fight as the sniper) and his dream (brave) plus he after dress rosary has been becoming a guardian angel fighter who protects the crew when Luffy is off to fight the big dog. Even further so this was something he for shadows in the arlong fight. Being it was the first head crushing rule breaking liberating fight for Luffy and crew and ussop is behind him with a sling shot having taken down arlong third strongest crew member something Nami couldt.

Ussop will always be the weakest but if it's the captain plus three more it will be the two strongest plus the sniper

 

[Ripple Hole]

Nope. Oda said no matter who joins, Usopp will always be the weakest. It's never gonna be Usopp. I think it's most likely Jinbei.

Well that sucks.

 

[ultraChalk]

Uh guys, Usopp will always be the weakest member of the crew. This has been known. There is no potential of him joining the monster trio.

It's between Franky and Chopper out of the members we have right now and I'm leaning more towards Franky, or Jinbe.

 

[nanadaime]

Remember at orange town when it was the sniper the captian and the two strongest in the crew in a four versus four. It is like that not because an my just because that's ussops job (to fight as the sniper) and his dream (brave) plus he after dress rosary has been becoming a guardian angel fighter who protects the crew when Luffy is off to fight the big dog. Even further so this was something he for shadows in the arlong fight. Being it was the first head crushing rule breaking liberating fight for Luffy and crew and ussop is behind him with a sling shot having taken down arlong third strongest crew member something Nami couldt.

Ussop will always be the weakest but if it's the captain plus three more it will be the two strongest plus the sniper

So my favorite is reduced to a support character lol

 

[Tomato God]

So my favorite is reduced to a support character lol

No your favorite has been a support character from the start but that doesn't mean he can't still fight on his own or be an independent mind as show with when he fought Luffy and every time he fights someone himself.

Go reread the chapter where he gets haki. He is a sniper. That by trade is support. Real united states marine corps scout snipers can have missions to handle things themselves but in conventional warfare they support grunts and pick people off to thin herds. Only using scout snipers as an example because I am a marine who is support. Artillery kicks ass. Nothing wrong with support.

 

[nanadaime]

No your favorite has been a support character from the start but that doesn't mean he can't still fight on his own or be an independent mind as show with when he fought Luffy and every time he fights someone himself.

Go reread the chapter where he gets haki. He is a sniper. That by trade is support. Real united states marine corps scout snipers can have missions to handle things themselves but in conventional warfare they support grunts and pick people off to thin herds. Only using scout snipers as an example because I am a marine who is support. Artillery kicks ass. Nothing wrong with support.

Well when you think about it that way he could be considered as a great guardian for the crew I just wish he grew a pair over the time skip his fear is why I feel he's underrated with his analysis skills and sniping he should be more of a threat but he just got his haki and we all saw BB's sniper take out a seagul from an island that even usopp couldn't see with his goggles so I'm looking forward to seeing him master it and save a crewmate from a greater distance

 

[Nox]

Across the various established crew and/or those with whom the SH have encountered and fought there is a trend in which the captain is vastly superior to his subordinates. Throughout while Luffy had always bested such enemies he never seemed to have jumped ahead to the rest. This OFC changes in EL when the gulf in class is put in perspective both in terms of enemy choice and his power boost in relation to his enemies. This convinced me as much that while the traditional sense of M3 comprised of Luffy, Zoro and Sanji will exists a new brand of classification would be formed later on. Currently I believe it might become:

C: Luffy
S3: Zoro / Sanji / Jinbe (Strong Trio)
M3: Franky / Robin / Brooke
W3: Chopper / Usopp / Nami

Its very hard for members to jump across sections since the TS has given all members the ability to harness on their respective styles. You could say Chopper's Monster Point is to overwhelming for Robin/Brooke but you've to consider one is blessed with extreme reactions and a misused DF the other is extremely fast and could slash Chopper before he used his rumble ball. What might change the placing IMO is how developed the synergy of one's fighting ability is relative to their developed haki. i.e At this stage you could argue Usopp > Chopper due to the former's haki. There they go again with saying Usopp is the weakest. Oda alluded to Usopp's being a superhuman in regards to the rest of the crew. Everything about him is simplistic: seeds, eye gear & a slingshot. That is his entire arsenal.

 

[lelerskates]

Across the various established crew and/or those with whom the SH have encountered and fought there is a trend in which the captain is vastly superior to his subordinates. Throughout while Luffy had always bested such enemies he never seemed to have jumped ahead to the rest. This OFC changes in EL when the gulf in class is put in perspective both in terms of enemy choice and his power boost in relation to his enemies. This convinced me as much that while the traditional sense of M3 comprised of Luffy, Zoro and Sanji will exists a new brand of classification would be formed later on. Currently I believe it might become:

C: Luffy
S3: Zoro / Sanji / Jinbe (Strong Trio)
M3: Franky / Robin / Brooke
W3: Chopper / Usopp / Nami

Its very hard for members to jump across sections since the TS has given all members the ability to harness on their respective styles. You could say Chopper's Monster Point is to overwhelming for Robin/Brooke but you've to consider one is blessed with extreme reactions and a misused DF the other is extremely fast and could slash Chopper before he used his rumble ball. What might change the placing IMO is how developed the synergy of one's fighting ability is relative to their developed haki. i.e At this stage you could argue Usopp > Chopper due to the former's haki. There they go again with saying Usopp is the weakest. Oda alluded to Usopp's being a superhuman in regards to the rest of the crew. Everything about him is simplistic: seeds, eye gear & a slingshot. That is his entire arsenal.

He still has dials too which are so strong its a double edged sword.