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Senju Bean

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Smashing a rock or smashing a terrorist?

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None, they both aren't alive.


Interrogators should just go Ramsay Bolton on them. After all, they lost human status. No more different than hurting a rock. No more different than taking apart a computer to get internal components/info
 

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wasn't this the plot to the Robocop reboot?

Yep, terrorists are not human. Treat them like zombies/robots/ etc

They would not really suffer from torture since they aren't alive.

So it's ok to flay them and burn them at the steak.
 
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smashing a rock?

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I wonder if you would feel the same if you were an American being tortured by someone who considered you a terrorist.
 

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^ what he said.

also, what if that person wasnt actually a terrorist and youre just an ******* and discriminated because he/she fits the bill of what you thought a terrorist is?

Unless there was a significant evidence that the person you have is indeed atrocious, then by all means. If he/she had taken innocent lives doesnt matter what they believed in or on what premise but the fact that they did nothing wrong nor they were aware of something wrong and did nothing, then that person is a murderer and as such, he/she is a dead fella walking.

by all means, torture to your heart extent but thats usually not the case.

most suicide bombers are normally just casualties forced to do it.

now idk why they would do it. its stupid. "because they have my loved ones and theyll kill them if i dont"

trust me, been there. they kill em anyways or worse. or they could let them go and force them to live with the fact that their relative is a terrorist.

so if i was in their shoes, id go on a suicide mission, sure, but it wont be on their terms. i wont take other people's lives. id take theirs.
 

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I wonder if you would feel the same if you were an American being tortured by someone who considered you a terrorist.

Do you have empathy for them?

It's better to be a psychopath than to empathize with dead objects.
 

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Do you have empathy for them?

It's better to be a psychopath than to empathize with dead objects.

Nope. I just think those who have such Black and White views on the world are idiots.
 

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Alright..by that logic lets kidnap some american soldiers as they're terrorists. Lets kidnap the mentally unstable terrorists that massacre dozens people in the u.s. No..they're labeled shooters. The label terrorist is for arabic mercenaries only.
 

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^ what he said.

also, what if that person wasnt actually a terrorist and youre just an ******* and discriminated because he/she fits the bill of what you thought a terrorist is?

Unless there was a significant evidence that the person you have is indeed atrocious, then by all means. If he/she had taken innocent lives doesnt matter what they believed in or on what premise but the fact that they did nothing wrong nor they were aware of something wrong and did nothing, then that person is a murderer and as such, he/she is a dead fella walking.

by all means, torture to your heart extent but thats usually not the case.

most suicide bombers are normally just casualties forced to do it.

now idk why they would do it. its stupid. "because they have my loved ones and theyll kill them if i dont"

trust me, been there. they kill em anyways or worse. or they could let them go and force them to live with the fact that their relative is a terrorist.

so if i was in their shoes, id go on a suicide mission, sure, but it wont be on their terms. i wont take other people's lives. id take theirs.

Ok but what about the ones already captured? Already admitting to terrorism? They are wasting our tax dollars when they should be in the ground.

While Sadam wasn't a terrorist, he still got off too easy. They should have feed him to the dogs. After all, dead meat has no feelings.
 

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Alright..by that logic lets kidnap some american soldiers as they're terrorists. Lets kidnap the mentally unstable terrorists that massacre dozens people in the u.s. No..they're labeled shooters. The label terrorist is for arabic mercenaries only.

Well Bold is just plain untrue, and is extremely racist.
 

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In many places especially 3rd wolrd is nothing stopping from police or military personnel form torturing, you never hear about them. Allowing them to do it legally when the state can define what terrorism is is a bad idea.
 

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Well Bold is just plain untrue, and is extremely racist.

I'm being sarcastic. It's meant to point out that the media giants use words in their favour. Now, when you hear the word ''terrorist'' what is the first thing that pops up in your mind. Exactly.
 

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Nope. I just think those who have such Black and White views on the world are idiots.

You seem to think that it's wrong to brutally torture known terrorists. Isn't that ethical think black and white as well?
 

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You seem to think that it's wrong to brutally torture known terrorists. Isn't that ethical think black and white as well?

Nice Strawman argument.

I have never said that torture isn't justified, and indeed necessary. I just think you're being a moron about it. You're not worth explaining rationale to.
 

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Nice Strawman argument.

I have never said that torture isn't justified, and indeed necessary. I just think you're being a moron about it. You're not worth explaining rationale to.

Want to hear a real logical argument? Well, Nietzsche proved that ethics don't exists and that truth is what you think it is.

So if I think it's ok to feed a terrorist to the dogs, then its ok.

Sometimes torture is ok for it's own sake
 

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Want to hear a real logical argument? Well, Nietzsche proved that ethics don't exists and that truth is what you think it is.

So if I think it's ok to feed a terrorist to the dogs, then its ok.

Sometimes torture is ok for it's own sake

Thank you for proving my assessment of you correct.
 
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