[Discussion] What exactly is yonko level?

[BrillyMac]

People always talk about who and who's not yonko level in one piece and usually compare it with admiral level in one piece. I disagree. I never believed yonko level would be matched by admiral level. It's pretty damn obvious. Whitebeard was sick, fighting a war; multiple admirals, and had holes in his chest. I never got why people compared admirals to him. He was old as shit and sick as shit and had wounds. He almost broke sakazukis neck. Come on now. The admirals couldn't touch him. When shanks arrived to the warfront he ended the war. Yeah I know his crew is powerful but let's be real, shanks ended the war because he's a yonko. He only has one arm. It might take two or three admirals all at once to take down a yonko. I really feel that the power of a yonko is underrated and underestimated. Yonkos have big crews but that's not he primary reason for their power. I think the yonko themself is very very powerful.

And what's up with people saying gold roger was only admirals level? Where they do that at? If he was only admiral level the navy could've sent all admirals after him along with garp (garp to me is stronger than one admiral, he might equal the strength of two in other words a yonko). Gold roger was the freaking pirate King. No way in hell will I accept that he's only equal to sakazuki. What kinda shit it that?

 

[A$AP Wap]

(@Tittle) Mihawk

 

[BrillyMac]

(@Tittle) Mihawk

Yeah after all he did used to soar with shanks

 

[Punk Hazard]

What's funny is that Whitebeard would have been killed by any of those Admirals one on one all out during Marineford.

"Almost broke Sakazuki's neck."

Uhhh...where? In the manga I read, Whitebeard had to destroy the ground because Akainu would have been able to melt his ass had that fight continued.

And no, that's not how the Navy works. They can't just send all their Admirals after one person at once. For one, it's not like Roger was around the corner from Marineford at any given times. Admirals get dispatched to look for one pirate, you'd leave the base of the Marines wide open to invasion without its best defenders there to protect it. Sending every Admiral out to one location at the same time is a horrible battle strategy.

It makes more sense for the top tiers to be relatively equal for the sake of the story.

 

[BrillyMac]

What's funny is that Whitebeard would have been killed by any of those Admirals one on one all out during Marineford.

"Almost broke Sakazuki's neck."

Uhhh...where? In the manga I read, Whitebeard had to destroy the ground because Akainu would have been able to melt his ass had that fight continued.

And no, that's not how the Navy works. They can't just send all their Admirals after one person at once. For one, it's not like Roger was around the corner from Marineford at any given times. Admirals get dispatched to look for one pirate, you'd leave the base of the Marines wide open to invasion without its best defenders there to protect it. Sending every Admiral out to one location at the same time is a horrible battle strategy.

It makes more sense for the top tiers to be relatively equal for the sake of the story.

Agreed on it being stupid to send all the admirals after one person.

I coulda swore whitebeard hit sakazuki on the neck nearly breaking it. I'll try to look for the vid.
You're forgetting whitebeard was old, sick, and had Holes in his chest. Before the battle one of his crew mates clearly told him he couldn't fight because then he would have to leave the medical equipment which he needed. That's why he couldn't move like he used to.

Yeah I guess for the sake of the story could be the best explanation but I don't think that's it. I just don't see the marines not taking down the yonko of the admirals are their level

 

[LuckyMan]

Yonko is really strong pirate. Pirate King is the strongest pirate, like Gol D Rodger was.

 

[Ripple Hole]

I'd like to think Yonkou level is beyond admiral without a doubt if
they keep the shichibukai just incase 1 Yonkou attacks them.
It becomes increasingly obvious that Yonkou are capable of blowing admirals to smithereens
if you take in account that the WG is willing to give the shichibukai(their enemies) the
ability to do some vile ass shit, stuff that they literally stand against.

Though I don't think lowly of admirals, I'd guess they're a bit above shichibukai considering
how they mention that they're going to have to take out so and so shichibukai for abusing
their privileges. Seeing how many admirals they send to diffuse situations sometimes makes
me question how powerful they are though, the guys sent around a handful of admirals just to
take out Law and Luffy, possibly Doflamingo as well(I don't remember too well).

Anyways I would never state any plain old admiral can take on a yonkou
after seeing Akainu(strongest admiral) barely get the edge over a dying
WB after multiple injuries. Considering the Yonkou shouldn't be drastically far off
in power.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Agreed on it being stupid to send all the admirals after one person.

I coulda swore whitebeard hit sakazuki on the neck nearly breaking it. I'll try to look for the vid.
You're forgetting whitebeard was old, sick, and had Holes in his chest. Before the battle one of his crew mates clearly told him he couldn't fight because then he would have to leave the medical equipment which he needed. That's why he couldn't move like he used to.

Yeah I guess for the sake of the story could be the best explanation but I don't think that's it. I just don't see the marines not taking down the yonko of the admirals are their level

The anime extended that fight to make Akainu look weaker. In the manga, Whitebeard jumped Akainu, stunning him, but Akainu sprang back up and hit Whitebeard in the face, then Whitebeard hit him in the side, breaking the floor and Akainu fell in. Akainu was able to melt through the floor and emerge with enough strength to clash with all of WB's commanders minus two and dozens of pirates, and he wasn't injured further. Meanwhile, WB was killed by BB's crew, which was filled with rookies. It's obvious that had WB vs Sakazuki continued, Sakazuki would have killed WB because WB was injured enough for BB and his cronies to do so.

 

[BrillyMac]

Yonko is really strong pirate. Pirate King is the strongest pirate, like Gol D Rodger was.

Also pirate King is whoever finds one piece

The anime extended that fight to make Akainu look weaker. In the manga, Whitebeard jumped Akainu, stunning him, but Akainu sprang back up and hit Whitebeard in the face, then Whitebeard hit him in the side, breaking the floor and Akainu fell in. Akainu was able to melt through the floor and emerge with enough strength to clash with all of WB's commanders minus two and dozens of pirates, and he wasn't injured further. Meanwhile, WB was killed by BB's crew, which was filled with rookies. It's obvious that had WB vs Sakazuki continued, Sakazuki would have killed WB because WB was injured enough for BB and his cronies to do so.

So do you think a young whitebeard can mid diff sakazuki?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yonko is really strong pirate. Pirate King is the strongest pirate, like Gol D Rodger was.

No he wasn't, and no it's not. If Pirate King was being the strongest pirate, then why wasn't Whitebeard the new Pirate King? Why isn't Kaido the current Pirate King? The Pirate King simply the pirate that accomplishes whatever super impossible task his era contains. The last era's challenge was Roger being the first man to lead a crew that could circle the entire world. This era's challenge is finding One Piece. Next era's challenge could be going to the Moon for all we know, or destroying Fishman Island, or overthrowing the WG. While strength plays a great role in becoming PK, it's not the most prominent or deciding one. Otherwise, we'd have three Pirate Kings in the story so far instead of one.

 

[BrillyMac]

I'd like to think Yonkou level is beyond admiral without a doubt if
they keep the shichibukai just incase 1 Yonkou attacks them.
It becomes increasingly obvious that Yonkou are capable of blowing admirals to smithereens
if you take in account that the WG is willing to give the shichibukai(their enemies) the
ability to do some vile ass shit, stuff that they literally stand against.

Though I don't think lowly of admirals, I'd guess they're a bit above shichibukai considering
how they mention that they're going to have to take out so and so shichibukai for abusing
their privileges. Seeing how many admirals they send to diffuse situations sometimes makes
me question how powerful they are though, the guys sent around a handful of admirals just to
take out Law and Luffy, possibly Doflamingo as well(I don't remember too well).

Anyways I would never state any plain old admiral can take on a yonkou
after seeing Akainu(strongest admiral) barely get the edge over a dying
WB after multiple injuries. Considering the Yonkou shouldn't be drastically far off
in power.

I almost forgot that ishou went after law too. Him along with doflamingo. Why would the WG send all that just to get Luffy and law? So together do they make admiral level?

No he wasn't, and no it's not. If Pirate King was being the strongest pirate, then why wasn't Whitebeard the new Pirate King? Why isn't Kaido the current Pirate King? The Pirate King simply the pirate that accomplishes whatever super impossible task his era contains. The last era's challenge was Roger being the first man to lead a crew that could circle the entire world. This era's challenge is finding One Piece. Next era's challenge could be going to the Moon for all we know, or destroying Fishman Island, or overthrowing the WG. While strength plays a great role in becoming PK, it's not the most prominent or deciding one. Otherwise, we'd have three Pirate Kings in the story so far instead of one.

Id say pirate King is strongest pirate plus the one that creates an impact on the era the most

 

[A$AP Wap]

No he wasn't, and no it's not. If Pirate King was being the strongest pirate, then why wasn't Whitebeard the new Pirate King? Why isn't Kaido the current Pirate King? The Pirate King simply the pirate that accomplishes whatever super impossible task his era contains. The last era's challenge was Roger being the first man to lead a crew that could circle the entire world. This era's challenge is finding One Piece. Next era's challenge could be going to the Moon for all we know, or destroying Fishman Island, or overthrowing the WG. While strength plays a great role in becoming PK, it's not the most prominent or deciding one. Otherwise, we'd have three Pirate Kings in the story so far instead of one.

but we can all agree that Mihawk is strong too, right?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I almost forgot that ishou went after law too. Him along with doflamingo. Why would the WG send all that just to get Luffy and law? So together do they make admiral level?

Id say pirate King is strongest pirate plus the one that creates an impact on the era the most

In which case, Whitebeard still should have been Pirate King.

 

[Anduril]

A yonkou would solo an admiral mid-diff.

Look at what a battered Jack (He was bleeding in that panel when he decided to attack doffy's escort) did to Fujitora and sengoku's escort of four ships...... mowed down 2 ships, and still lives to tell the tale. Certainly WB was far stronger than jack. And Jack is not even a yonkou lol

 

[BrillyMac]

A yonkou would solo an admiral mid-diff.

Look at what a battered Jack (He was bleeding in that panel when he decided to attack doffy's escort) did to Fujitora and sengoku's escort of four ships...... mowed down 2 ships, and still lives to tell the tale. Certainly WB was far stronger than jack. And Jack is not even a yonkou lol

Agreed. I can't wait to see jacks feats

In which case, Whitebeard still should have been Pirate King.

Then there's more to it than what was states to become pirate King it seems

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I think it is fleet admiral (akainu currently former ally sengoku before he got to old)
Or chief of all marines (Kong) (although the gorosei I wonder where they fall in anything ...) potentially mihawk hype because he fought shanks (tho unclear was this before he became yonko similar to Moria and how kaido was before yonko ) ( I still can't c Moria providing any type diff for kaido..)

 

[BrillyMac]

I think it is fleet admiral (akainu currently former ally sengoku before he got to old)
Or chief of all marines (Kong) (although the gorosei I wonder where they fall in anything ...) potentially mihawk hype because he fought shanks (tho unclear was this before he became yonko similar to Moria and how kaido was before yonko ) ( I still can't c Moria providing any type diff for kaido..)

Huh? What does Moria have to do with Kaido?
And yeah I was thinkng that too. Maybe chief of all marines is yonko level. I doubt Kong is strong tho. I think he just is politically big or something. He doesn't look strong

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Yonkou level is a term made up by the fanbase due to hype. People want to see crazy stuff so the stronger you make a character seem, the more likely you are able to see epic stuff so its become a bit of a cancer. Yonko and admirals are on the same level and its called "Top Tiers" and they all extreme diff each other(high diff on rare occasions). Nothing really suggest a difference in level unless the manga directly says so.

Akainu, Aokiji or Kizaru would've killed WB in his state and the only reason WB damaged Akainu was due to a sneak attack. The BB pirates were able to finish of the weakened WB and they all RAN AWAY from Akainu with their tails between their legs.

 

[Jellal Fernandes]

Might get hate but Enel is on that good shit.

P.s Enel for strawhat! ??????

 

[BrillyMac]

Yonkou level is a term made up by the fanbase due to hype. People want to see crazy stuff so the stronger you make a character seem, the more likely you are able to see epic stuff so its become a bit of a cancer. Yonko and admirals are on the same level and its called "Top Tiers" and they all extreme diff each other(high diff on rare occasions). Nothing really suggest a difference in level unless the manga directly says so.

Akainu, Aokiji or Kizaru would've killed WB in his state and the only reason WB damaged Akainu was due to a sneak attack. The BB pirates were able to finish of the weakened WB and they all RAN AWAY from Akainu with their tails between their legs.

Fan bases didn't make yonko. Yonko is said and feared in the anime. Yonko are feared emperors. It would only make sense that the marines would fear the four emperors.
You people make whitebeard sound weak. He was in no ways weak. How old was he 72? Right? I coulda swore I heard that somewhere. A freaking old man fighting three different admirals. If they killed him early on like you say they could have that probably could have ended the war. They couldn't kill him. Whitebeard wasn't just any yonko he was the strongest yonko. Now it's harder to agree with you now because you're saying the strongest man in the world isn't really all that.