The moment Sasuke and Naruto surpassed their parents overall:
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according to wiki..
As the leader of the Uchiha clan, it is likely that he was well-versed in all the clan's techniques. Furthermore, being the leader of the Konoha Military Police Force, it can be said that he was very intelligent and a formidable opponent in battle. As noted by Danzō Shimura, Fugaku's intelligence was one of the greatest in generations.[5] Fugaku skill as a shinobi was thought very highly of by his fellow clansmen as they felt Fugaku should have been a contender for the Fourth Hokage alongside Minato Namikaze and Orochimaru.[6]
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Sasuke surpassed his father after the moment he received Rinnegan U_U
War Arc SM Naruto surpassed Minato in a way.Minato was stronger though
JK Either Hebi or MS Sasuke surpassed Fugaku
War Arc SM Naruto surpassed Minato in a way.Minato was stronger though
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Bulls***!
That bitterness against Fugaku is obvious. :lol You must be totally out of your mind to say that VOTE 1 Sasuke can beat him. Nothing short of Hebi Sasuke w/CM is beating Fugaku. You're seriously underestimating the Uchiha Clan head and the Konoha Military Police captain.
And that Minato wank is obvious too, LOL... BSM Naruto surpassed Minato by far, that's not the lowest form needed to beat him. BM Naruto easily surpassed Minato and KCM Naruto matched him.
This level of ignorance is astounding. ^
What feats do YOU have to support your point? LMFAO. Even logically, your point makes no sense. Saying that an Uchiha clan head & Konoha Police captain with great power, skills and experience is inferior to an early teen Uchiha kid who just reached 3T level. That's beyond retarded.
Corrected. Some minor underestimation and overestimation was done there...
Haha, obviously not. Nothing short of BM Naruto truly surpasses Minato. Yes, KCM can rival him but only that, not beat him, especially when Minato has SM.
Not really. Yes, Pain is stronger than Minato, but Minato has the right tools to beat him. A tactical use of FTG can be very effective against Pain, and if Deva (the only difficult to handle Pain) gets marked, it's not a very difficult win for Minato, since he can be defeated in the 5 sec cool down time and the rest of them can be handled by FTG even without the markings on their body.
If anything, Pain is way too strong for SM Naruto. Just because he won the fight doesn't mean he is stronger than Pain, LMAO. A weakened and low on chakra Pain (Deva Path only) was manhandling SM Naruto and incapacitated him pretty easily. Even after Naruto went Kyuubi rage mode, that weakened and low on chakra Deva Pain could fight on par with him till the six tails, and even then he sealed him. He only lost the upper hand when Naruto went up to eight tailed form and broke free of the CT, and that also because Pain was extremely weakened by then.
I don't see how KCM Naruto was "stronger" than SM+FTG Minato. Yes, he can be around the same level, but not stronger. True that Minato's proficiency and capability with SM is lacking, but it's not totally useless either.
And Hebi Sasuke surpassed Fugaku but that same Sasuke without CM would have probably just paralleled Fugaku.
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I think Fugaku is solid Jonin level, but Hebi Sasuke was by far superior. Naruto conceded that Team Kakashi couldn't defeat Pre-Hebi Sasuke based on how he performed against them which excluded Cursed Seal Enhancements. That's rather huge considering Kakashi is one of the strongest Elite Jonin in the village given his performance against Itachi in comparison to Asuma and Kurenai.
3T Hebi Sasuke w/o CM was certainly a Kage Level Ninja.
3T Hebi Sasuke w/o CM was certainly a Kage Level Ninja.
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So you have no Fugaku feats? Meanwhile I have multitudes of Sasuke feats.
All Fugaku has are titles and hype. He's a fodder.
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^^^This exactly! Fugaku had 3T sharingan. He did not have mangekyou. As for Naruto, he surpassed alive Minato with bijuu mode. He surpassed Edo Minato with BSM.
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Far superior? Obviously not. If Hebi Sasuke did not have CM, he'd be the same level as Fugaku presumably, maybe slightly stronger. Only his CM safely puts him above Fugaku.
And how do you know Team Kakashi could defeat Fugaku that easily? The reason why Sasuke performed so well against Team Kakashi was because everyone aside from Yamato were fodders. Pre-SM Naruto, fodder. Sakura, fodder. Sai, fodder.
And if Kakashi was involved, Sasuke would definitely require the Curse Mark to compete with Team Kakashi. And that version of Sasuke is above Fugaku.
And Fugaku was also easily Kage level.
Tell what?
Okay, so because Fugaku has no feats, you can label him as "fodder" but I can't call him "quite strong". That's quite the exemplary level of double standards there. How can you say he is fodder when he has no feats displayed?
And my assumption are more solid than yours. Fugaku was easily a Jounin level shinobi, the leader of the strongest clan in Konoha and and the captain of Konoha's military police force. He's undoubtedly very strong.
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We agree on Fugaku being highly underestimated, & SM Naruto not surpassing Minato, but you see Minato as >= KCM Naruto any reason?