Naruto Spin-off Hinted by Creator Masashi Kishimoto; Potential Plot Revealed.

[Natsu Shazneel]

Why? If you want the series to end so badly then leave the base because it doesn't need people crying "they're milking it" every other post. It's so annoying.

I leave the base every night before bed. So try again.

 

[FreeTanner17]

I leave the base every night before bed. So try again.

not picking a fight cause you're not so bad. But it's seriously annoying how everybody says that Naruto went downhill, when I'm pretty sure you're all just saying that to fit in or bandwagon. Naruto wasn't that bad, it just didn't go how you expected it. It's the creators decision on whether or not to continue, not you guys. If he can make more money out of it, why not let him and just stop watching? It doesn't make sense to keep stating the same sh*t we've heard a thousand times "omg they are milking it so bad" "just end it before it's ruined". Nobody asked you to keep watching/reading. Log off if that's how it's going to be, and I don't just mean at nighttime bud.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

not picking a fight cause you're not so bad. But it's seriously annoying how everybody says that Naruto went downhill, when I'm pretty sure you're all just saying that to fit in or bandwagon. Naruto wasn't that bad, it just didn't go how you expected it. It's the creators decision on whether or not to continue, not you guys. If he can make more money out of it, why not let him and just stop watching? It doesn't make sense to keep stating the same sh*t we've heard a thousand times "omg they are milking it so bad" "just end it before it's ruined". Nobody asked you to keep watching/reading. Log off if that's how it's going to be, and I don't just mean at nighttime bud.

Ehh... not really saying it to fit in. It was just plain out bad. I mean I was like you who saw the positives in the show every chance I could get. But in reality when I look at the series as a whole it really did not end in a good note for me. Kishi near the end played with something he wasn't natural at. He got exposed as a writer in the wrong way.

 

[Nick01]

Interesting.

 

[FreeTanner17]

Ehh... not really saying it to fit in. It was just plain out bad. I mean I was like you who saw the positives in the show every chance I could get. But in reality when I look at the series as a whole it really did not end in a good note for me. Kishi near the end played with something he wasn't natural at. He got exposed as a writer in the wrong way.

He was told he had to wrap the series up hen he was still working out the final details. That's not bad writing it's called be screwed over

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

He was told he had to wrap the series up hen he was still working out the final details. That's not bad writing it's called be screwed over

Well if that was the case than he could have easily shortened the Kaguya fight and extended the Naruto VS Sasuke fight. Either way as a professional he should have made the most out of the time he had left.

 

[Rand al'Thor]

Man kishi stop piling rubbish shit on us. SMh

 

[FreeTanner17]

Well if that was the case than he could have easily shortened the Kaguya fight and extended the Naruto VS Sasuke fight. Either way as a professional he should have made the most out of the time he had left.

iirc he was told to close the manga up like halfway through the kaguya fight. And I don't think that's right for you to say about him. You are not a writer and don't know what it's like when you are forced to quickly end the manga you've been working on for the last 15 years. You cannot judge. Any and every forced ending will have people like you who are not pleased with it.

 

[Rand al'Thor]

iirc he was told to close the manga up like halfway through the kaguya fight. And I don't think that's right for you to say about him. You are not a writer and don't know what it's like when you are forced to quickly end the manga you've been working on for the last 15 years. You cannot judge. Any and every forced ending will have people like you who are not please with it.

Its bad. No, the story at the end was pathetic. No matter how you color or spin it, its the blunt truth. Kishi lost his marbles halfway through shippuden. If you are saying otherwise, you are just making yourself feel better and clinging to a sense of delusion.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

iirc he was told to close the manga up like halfway through the kaguya fight. And I don't think that's right for you to say about him. You are not a writer and don't know what it's like when you are forced to quickly end the manga you've been working on for the last 15 years. You cannot judge. Any and every forced ending will have people like you who are not please with it.

Look I don't care for these little excuses. In the end its not my job to worry about the circumstances of a writer. I will look at the series as a whole and judge it. What Kishi does in his life is his own issue. I will judge what I see in front of me. So save me this crap of having pity for someone I don't even know in real life.

 

[FreeTanner17]

Look I don't care for these little excuses. In the end its not my job to worry about the circumstances of a writer. I will look at the series as a whole and judge it. What Kishi does in his life is his own issue. I will judge what I see in front of me. So save me this crap of having pity for someone I don't even know in real life.

you just went from okay to ******* real quick. He worked tirelessly for years. That's like saying, "idgaf if you are dead before you finish the manga, you should have thought about that sooner". How do you expect a rushed ending to look? He did the best he could with as little time as possible. You should also take into account the circumstances the manga was being written under when judging it so harshly. I'm done arguing with you. Can't stand a-hole followers

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

you just went from okay to ******* real quick. He worked tirelessly for years. That's like saying, "idgaf if you are dead before you finish the manga, you should have thought about that sooner". How do you expect a rushed ending to look? He did the best he could with as little time as possible. You should also take into account the circumstances the manga was being written under when judging it so harshly. I'm done arguing with you. Can't stand a-hole followers

I am sorry but neither I or you know Kishi in real life. This sympathy you have I don't feel it. In the end of the day I will remember Naruto for Naruto not what Kishi went through in his life. I could give a flying **** how rushed he was in making the ending. He made two movies after that and a Gaiden. How the hell could he not make up for the lost time?

 

[FreeTanner17]

I am sorry but neither I or you know Kishi in real life. This sympathy you have I don't feel it. In the end of the day I will remember Naruto for Naruto not what Kishi went through in his life. I could give a flying **** how rushed he was in making the ending. He made two movies after that and a Gaiden. How the hell could he not make up for the lost time?

How can you make up for something that was ending? Wtf are you talking about. If you are told to end it, you have to end it. You are given little to no time in deciding how to end it. It will be rushed no matter how he went about it. Also, garden came MONTHS after the ending. And he was still only given a few weeks to figure into out. The entire time he was basically begging to be able to spend time with family. I hope if you are still in school that next time you are sick or you lose your paper/homework that the teacher says "I don't look at the person or feel bad for them, I just look at the work they did" and than slaps you an F, because that's what you are doing to kishi. Have some empathy dumbass

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

How can you make up for something that was ending? Wtf are you talking about. If you are told to end it, you have to end it. You are given little to no time in deciding how to end it. It will be rushed no matter how he went about it.

He was told to end it yet we still got a Gaiden and a movie after. Meaning he never truly ended it. You are once again making excuses for him.

Also, garden came MONTHS after the ending. And he was still only given a few weeks to figure into out. The entire time he was basically begging to be able to spend time with family.

The Last came right after the ending. Lol

I hope if you are still in school that next time you are sick or you lose your paper/homework that the teacher says "I don't look at the person or feel bad for them, I just look at the work they did" and than slaps you an F, because that's what you are doing to kishi. Have some empathy dumbass

I will be honest with you right now. Teachers really don't care if a dog ate your homework. They will demand the end product. It makes no difference how much you are suffering from some sort of illnesses. If you can't make up for it with the time you have than you have no right to call yourself a professional.

 

[FreeTanner17]

He was told to end it yet we still got a Gaiden and a movie after. Meaning he never truly ended it. You are once again making excuses for him.

You act as if gaiden was a remake of the the final chapters of the original mana, which it isn't. The damage was done. Was he supposed to magically undo a rushed ending. That's like saying he should have been able to come up with a plot leading up to the ending, and than told that he has to basically scrap everything and make everything up from scratch when he's basically already at the deadline. You are judging way too harshly which makes me think you are probably a total judgmental a-hole in real life. Facts are not excuses, no writer could have done better with that little amount of time. FYI, the ending wasn't even bad, it only seems that way because kishi had to leave out a lot of details he would have included had he been given more time.

The Last came right after the ending. Lol

So he was working on both tirelessly at the same time. That means the mangas ending should have been better? I'm failing to see your logic here.

I will be honest with you right now. Teachers really don't care if a dog ate your homework. They will demand the end product. It makes no difference how much you are suffering from some sort of illnesses. If you can't make up for it with the time you have than you have no right to call yourself a professional.

yeah that's somewhat true, but does it make it right? Just because teachers judge unfairly and harsh fully doesn't justify the same towards others. I bet you are completely against it outside of this conversation. Don't act like you wouldn't be upset had a teacher done to you what you are doing to kishimoto. Hypocrites eat their own words eventually

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

You act as if gaiden was a remake of the the final chapters of the original mana, which it isn't. The damage was done. Was he supposed to magically undo a rushed ending. That's like saying he should have been able to come up with a plot leading up to the ending, and than told that he has to basically scrap everything and make everything up from scratch when he's basically already at the deadline. You are judging way too harshly which makes me think you are probably a total judgmental a-hole in real life. Facts are not excuses, no writer could have done better with that little amount of time. FYI, the ending wasn't even bad, it only seems that way because kishi had to leave out a lot of details he would have included had he been given more time.

Even when he had more time Kishi wasn't doing so well as a writer. The War arc alone exposes him as a writer. Showing how without his editors he is simply an average writer. Stop mentioning what he went through in his life cause I am really not interested. I was never working with him nor were you. So keep your personal love for Kishi out of this.

So he was working on both tirelessly at the same time. That means the mangas ending should have been better? I'm failing to see your logic here.

You fail to see my logic because you are hellbent on mentioning how hard he worked reaching his deadlines. As if you were sitting next to him worrying about him every second. Hell no you were the same person who sat at home reading his manga.

Now back to my point, he made a movie and gaiden after the ending. Instead of adding more details to his previous work he moves on to something new. Making what ever was left rushed stay rushed. You are hellbent on claiming he ran out of time. Yet you fail to mention how he could have easily made up for it by focusing on the missed pieces of his rushed ending. This is why having blind love can be misleading.

yeah that's somewhat true, but does it make it right? Just because teachers judge unfairly and harsh fully doesn't justify the same towards others. I bet you are completely against it outside of this conversation. Don't act like you wouldn't be upset had a teacher done to you what you are doing to kishimoto. Hypocrites eat their own words eventually

I don't meet Kishi in real life to tell him how disappointed I am. I have no reason to feel sympathy for a man I myself don't even know personally. Life is not fair its about time you realize this child.

 

[FreeTanner17]

Even when he had more time Kishi wasn't doing so well as a writer. The War arc alone exposes him as a writer. Showing how without his editors he is simply an average writer. Stop mentioning what he went through in his life cause I am really not interested. I was never working with him nor were you. So keep your personal love for Kishi out of this.



You fail to see my logic because you are hellbent on mentioning how hard he worked reaching his deadlines. As if you were sitting next to him worrying about him every second. Hell no you were the same person who sat at home reading his manga.

Now back to my point, he made a movie and gaiden after the ending. Instead of adding more details to his previous work he moves on to something new. Making what ever was left rushed stay rushed. You are hellbent on claiming he ran out of time. Yet you fail to mention how he could have easily made up for it by focusing on the missed pieces of his rushed ending. This is why having blind love can be misleading.



I don't meet Kishi in real life to tell him how disappointed I am. I have no reason to feel sympathy for a man I myself don't even know personally. Life is not fair its about time you realize this child.

1. I'm not a child, I'm probably older than you are.
2. You don't have to know the person to feel empathy for them. I'm sure in real life you turn your head at every person in need. It's something as small as not being so judge mental but you've managed to come off as a heartless a-hole
3. I don't have a personal love for him, I'm just defending him from getting berated by idiots
Edit: I'd also like to add that it's only your opinion that Naruto ended badly. I liked the ending, my only complaint was that it ended a little abruptly but I understand that kishimoto is HUMAN and is not perfect, but performed well under the circumstances he was in. There are people that did enjoy it and don't want to see it go. Why you think it went downhill but still stuck around is beyond me. Normally when somebody doesn't like something they put it down and stop reading, but you and a few others I won't name seem to like to stick around solely for the purpose of hating on anything that the author does from now on. You've made it your purpose to be a hater. So I guess you can stay salt that it didn't end how you wanted it too, but thats unimportant. One last thing, don't basically all professionals have editors? That's something that comes with being a professional writer am I wrong? I'd like to see your other favorite authors would perform under these circumstances. Would you turn your back on them too?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

1. I'm not a child, I'm probably older than you are.

Ok should have called you old man instead.

2. You don't have to know the person to feel empathy for them. I'm sure in real life you turn your head at every person in need. It's something as small as not being so judge mental but you've managed to come off as a heartless a-hole

I am looking at what I see in front of me. Not worrying about how much Kishi put up with. Cause that is his job not mine. He is a professional so that's what professionals do.

3. I don't have a personal love for him, I'm just defending him from getting berated by idiots

And how much did he pay you for being his beloved servant? Seriously get real.

 

[FreeTanner17]

Ok should have called you old man instead.



I am looking at what I see in front of me. Not worrying about how much Kishi put up with. Cause that is his job not mine. He is a professional so that's what professionals do.



And how much did he pay you for being his beloved servant? Seriously get real.

I am "getting real", you're just a douche. Also, I'm not old either, I'm about to be 20. Rn im picturing you as a 12 year old follower though. Seriously, you should be blaming shounen for giving him a practically impossible deadline to end the manga by. Refer back to the edit on my last post

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

1. I'm not a child, I'm probably older than you are.
2. You don't have to know the person to feel empathy for them. I'm sure in real life you turn your head at every person in need. It's something as small as not being so judge mental but you've managed to come off as a heartless a-hole

Pretending to know someone you don't know. Clear evidence of it shown right here in bold.

Edit: I'd also like to add that it's only your opinion that Naruto ended badly.

Its also only your opinion that Naruto ended nicely. Not sure if you thought you were talking to Kishi or some random fan? I never claimed my opinion was a fact.

I liked the ending, my only complaint was that it ended a little abruptly but I understand that kishimoto is HUMAN and is not perfect, but performed well under the circumstances he was in. There are people that did enjoy it and don't want to see it go.

Oh jeez Kishi is human? Who would have known? I thought he was some green guy with an antenna.

On a serious note Kishi is what you call a professional at what he does. He has no excuse of making a rushy ending as he did before. No matter how you put it to me this is simply blind love for a man you don't personally know.

Why you think it went downhill but still stuck around is beyond me.

Because there was a time I would go along with whatever Kishi shoved in my face like you.

Normally when somebody doesn't like something they put it down and stop reading, but you and a few others I won't name seem to like to stick around solely for the purpose of hating on anything that the author does from now on. You've made it your purpose to be a hater. So I guess you can stay salt that it didn't end how you wanted it too, but thats unimportant.

Well I am not reading Naruto. So whats your problem with me hating the series? Are you upset cause you can't accept my opinion since yours is all sugarcoated and jolly? Listen the world does not work like the Willy Wonka factor. It actually has a huge dark side. So grow a pair and just accept it.

We have every right to bash this series as you have for loving it.

One last thing, don't basically all professionals have editors? That's something that comes with being a professional writer am I wrong? I'd like to see your other favorite authors would perform under these circumstances. Would you turn your back on them too?

I will look at anything with a straight eye and not a sugarcoated one to please the others.

I am "getting real", you're just a douche. Also, I'm not old either, I'm about to be 20. Rn im picturing you as a 12 year old follower though.

No need to share with me your jail bait fantasies. :lol