[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 809 Discussion and 810 Predictions

[OG sama]

Lol at Jack haters, the duke was about to lose to Jack while Jack was a big ass Mammoth which was open for many attacks, not to mention Its attacks are too predictable and the form clearly lacks mobility and speed.

If the duke had that much trouble with the full animal form he would have been owned by the hybrid form, which Is going to be much more suited for battle.

Mark my words, Jack is going to rape Nekomamushi without the need of CCs weapon and will only use it after the cat is defeated.

 

[Ripple Hole]

1.Were Kidd and Luffy not around the same level regardless? They have been portrayed as around the same level from the start.

2.By association they got a 50 mil raise. Luffy and Law now have a 500 mil bounty those two are the ones that took Doffy down. Which brings me back to the main point, 1 billion is well out of the range of little boosts to do with association making a difference.

3. Luffy broke out of prison after their meeting in Saboady and his bounty was raised immediately following the war hence it was higher than Kidds. And regarding post skip we don't even know what Kidd was doing for him to gain that bounty.

Not to mention breaking out of prison alone is not enough for your bounty to skyrocket to levels where you want it to be. He fought Magellan, Magellan and others in MF were witnesses to his current strength, he did not deserve a bounty any higher than he got. Simple as that. Now if he had broken out of the prison and defeated Magellan in the process or even put up a fight, then you would have a point.

@Riker

Teach's bounty just wasn't disclosed to us.

I can't further what I believe because there's not enough to go on,
due to us not having full knowledge on pirates known for murdering civilians.

The most I can state is casualties is a recurring reason that is brought up multiple
times to explain why some characters have high bounties within the millions with nothing
else stated. And that someone like Jack is prone to causing a large amount of that, so it
would only be logical to assume a decent/considerable portion of his bounty is from casualties.

And once again.
It's easy to do something as horrible as murder an ordinary citizen, but difficult to break in and out of prison.

 

[ToshiZO]

Lol at Jack haters, the duke was about to lose to Jack while Jack was a big ass Mammoth which was open for many attacks, not to mention Its attacks are too predictable and the form clearly lacks mobility and speed.

If the duke had that much trouble with the full animal form he would have been owned by the hybrid form, which Is going to be much more suited for battle.

Mark my words, Jack is going to rape Nekomamushi without the need of CCs weapon and will only use it after the cat is defeated.

chill a bit. Those other two guys recieved incredible hype and portrayal. Luffy also

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which he hardly ever dishes out. Last guy he said that to was a

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[OG sama]

chill a bit. Those other two guys recieved incredible hype and portrayal. Luffy also

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which he hardly ever dishes out. Last guy he said that to was a

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I know but lets be real here, if Jack is to be the villain of Zou, then there's no way the Dukes are going to be as strong or stronger than Luffy as they're going to need his help. Unless Luffy/Law are going to act as Inu/Neko and take turns fighting Jack, which is actually very possible, then I would say the Dukes are weaker but that doesn't mean they're weak.

Also I seriously doubt the Dukes are as strong as Fujitora, but they are clearly really strong, as one of them knows freaking Shanks. I guess time will tell.

 

[Joker]

I'm going to assume Jack's stronger in his base form.

 

[ToshiZO]

I know but lets be real here, if Jack is to be the villain of Zou, then there's no way the Dukes are going to be as strong or stronger than Luffy as they're going to need his help. Unless Luffy/Law are going to act as Inu/Neko and take turns fighting Jack, which is actually very possible, then I would say the Dukes are weaker but that doesn't mean they're weak.

Also I seriously doubt the Dukes are as strong as Fujitora, but they are clearly really strong, as one of them knows freaking Shanks. I guess time will tell.

For me it would be very weird for Oda to take away from Jack's hype and give some of it to these two , if they weren't really strong, especially when Jack needs all the hype he can get. I'm sure Jack will start to show he is stronger of course. But I'm questioning how much stronger he is, these guys seem to be atleast stronger than Luffy rn but indeed we have seen this plenty of times in the beginnings of arcs only for characters like this to end up being weaker.

From a Luffy fight perspective you are right, it wouldn't make sense IF Kaidou is the antagonist in Zou. But who's to say he will be the only major threat.

 

[OG sama]

For me it would be very weird for Oda to take away from Jack's hype and give some of it to these two , if they weren't really strong, especially when Jack needs all the hype he can get. I'm sure Jack will start to show he is stronger of course. But I'm questioning how much stronger he is, these guys seem to be atleast stronger than Luffy rn but indeed we have seen this plenty of times in the beginnings of arcs only for characters like this to end up being weaker.

From a Luffy fight perspective you are right, it wouldn't make sense IF Kaidou is the antagonist in Zou. But who's to say he will be the only major threat.

The way I see it, if these guys are going to be stronger then Luffy isn't going to be able to contribute any thing to the battle. Theres got to be some tension to this battle, we cant have two natives on the same island stronger than Luffy, I know it happened with Fuji and maybe Sabo but one is an Admiral who stated he would leave it all up to Luffy, and the other is his brother, whos probably stronger cause he's older and is willing to protect Luffy If needed.

If Jack is to return, there can't be no gang of Luffy+ level fighters against Jack as that will just be too easy, and Oda knows that which Is why there's never been a case of the inhabitants of a country being stronger than Luffy.

Jack> Duke>Luffy doesn't feel appropriate.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

So if Jack's bounty is 1,000,000,000, How high must Kaido's bounty be? I'm thinking a lot of 9's

 

[Akuma]

Another break, how weird.

1B bounty caught me by surprise. o-o Outrageous.

 

[arv993]

Lol at some people I'm sure jack got it by killing civilians only, I guess along should at least be 200 mil by that logic if he went kill frenzy. 1 billion clearly means you are a top tier, the guys has hype and has seemed to not have gone all out.

 

[Gintõki1]

Great chapter! I love it that we have people like the Minks who are badass and kick ass and not the usual shit when the SH's have to save the main people of the arc in every situation.
Like that wasn't enough already, one of them even met Shanks. But yeah, he has to fall asleep after we are hyped to know about it. -_-


That color spread! One of the best ever! They even smoke because they are missing Sanji alot. xD

 

[loj]

Jesus that duke of the day is a boss XD there goes Jack hype can't do sheet without Ceasar's weapon,kinda disappointed with Jack now.

In the other hand Im curious about duke's of day past,sounds interesting! I love how Luffy is always happy when someone mentiones Shanks!

Today's color spread was interesting as well,Luffy and Robin looks epic!

Duke of the night looks interesting as well!

4/5 this time.

EDIT: I lied Jack's hype is alive XD

 

[Bogard]

The dukes are extremely strong, but weaker than Jack. After hours from fighting, the one who ended up injured and exhausted was Dogupine when Jack seemed to have barely exerted himself and even after viper cat's intro(while coming fresh), he received no damage at all.

The way it's presented, they probably had him in the long run(with the whole switching to conserve their stamina/and sapping that of the enemy while coming back at full power thing), but Jack turned back to human form, which means he is about to get serious. Don't worry. Like OG sama said the mammoth wasn't suited in fighting at all when you see other zoan users like Lucci or co, the hybrid form was always the best choice for fighting, especially in case of his particularly sizeable df.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm going to assume Jack's stronger in his base form.

I dunno if that makes sense. Zoans boost your physical stats when you transform, after all.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Now I'm thinking how they will beat Jack, let alone Kaido. They needed two supernovas and many other fighters to fight Doflamingo alone. I'd say luffy and law will team up with Kid, Hawkins, and Appo to take down Kaido.

 

[Kingu]

I dunno if that makes sense. Zoans boost your physical stats when you transform, after all.

He's most likely going to go into his hybrid form

 

[Tobi98]

The dude is running around with weapons of mass distruction, ****ing up everything he passes by, no wonder he has that big of a bounty

Oh and minks = best race

 

[MadaraReturns]

Thing I like about One Piece is that it isn't like DBZ, always and Goku being the hero (relevant one), here there are many great forces to look forward to watching them clash

 

[Tobi98]

People are acting like the only thing Jack ever did was killing innocents, he had the guts to attack an ex Fleet Admiral, an Admiral and 3 Vice Admirals. If it came down to it I see him completely slaughtering Celestial Dragons

 

[Punk Hazard]

People are acting like the only thing Jack ever did was killing innocents, he had the guts to attack an ex Fleet Admiral, an Admiral and 3 Vice Admirals. If it came down to it I see him completely slaughtering Celestial Dragons

Killing innocents is kind of a big deal, but this as well. He's probably attacked Marines and CDs without a care and just hit the fan when he tried to free Doffy.