Would sasuke have still outclassed team 7 if Kakashi

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-Orochimaru stated that even 3 tailed Naruto was below Sasuke.
-Kakashi could hardly aim Kamui at that time.
-Sasuke has far superior speed.
-Kakashi has no chakra streaming feats at the time.
-No counter to Kirin that can be used without prep.
- Oro was just trying to rile up naruto, oro himself believed he could beat sasuke at that point and he couldn't even damage kyuubi naruto. Heck oro didn't even know sasuke had chidori sharp spear he had no idea what sasuke was capable of.

- Agreed

- Nope naruto and sakura couldn't keep up with kakashi either, kakashi also who is faster than deidara

- Lol, that's a b-rank technique I doubt kakashi would be unable to do it but if we are going by feats then I'll accept.

- As for kirin it needs prep, you have no proof that kirin was the jutsu sasuke was gonna use. Since you want to go by feats we can't use maybe's here
 
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-Orochimaru stated that even 3 tailed Naruto was below Sasuke.
-Kakashi could hardly aim Kamui at that time.
-Sasuke has far superior speed.
-Kakashi has no chakra streaming feats at the time.
-No counter to Kirin that can be used without prep.
- Kakashi can handle a 3 tail or even a 4 tail Naruto. he was fighting and winning against other V2 bijuu during the War
- He wouldn't need Kamui against Hebi sasuke
- Completely utterly wrong. Kakashi is renowned for his speed
- He's a master of raiton, katon, suiton and doton and continues to show us new techs throughout the entire manga
- Kirin needs prep. he'll kill hebi before he can finish it
 
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This reply does not deserve a response. Sorry.
You dont have to be. I couldnt care less. Kakashi is way more experienced, smarter,and knows more jutsu. Over a thousand more. Thats a thousand ways to counter attacks.

He is not faster than Kakashi never was that even hinted. Kakashi keeps up with Gai.

You a fool if you think Hebi Sasuke Outclasses Kakashi.
 

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He'd obviously make a huge difference. He could've warped Sasuke's arms/legs off and carry him back. If Sasuke had gotten that Kirin off, though, him or Yamato wouldn't matter.
 

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You dont have to be. I couldnt care less. Kakashi is way more experienced, smarter,and knows more jutsu. Over a thousand more. Thats a thousand ways to counter attacks.

He is not faster than Kakashi never was that even hinted. Kakashi keeps up with Gai.

You a fool if you think Hebi Sasuke Outclasses Kakashi.
Tell him man. Kakashi solos every ninja below Naruto and Sasuke. These are manga facts right here.
 

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- Oro was just trying to rile up naruto, oro himself believed he could beat sasuke at that point and he couldn't even damage kyuubi naruto. Heck oro didn't even know sasuke had chidori sharp spear he had no idea what sasuke was capable of.

- Agreed

- Nope naruto and sakura couldn't keep up with kakashi either, kakashi also blitz kakuzu who is faster than deidara

- Lol, that's a b-rank technique I doubt kakashi would be unable to do it but if we are going by feats then I'll accept.
How does Orochimaru underestimating Sasuke downplay Sasuke again? Orochimaru himself stated he couldn't keep fighting Naruto because his body failed. He was wiping the floor with 3 tails Naruto, and only left at 4 tails, which nearly murdered Jiraiya who is leagues above Kakashi at that time.

Sasuke's shunshin speed has always been remarkable. He even has an entire databook section dedicated to his "godlike" speed, something Kakashi does not have.
 

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You dont have to be. I couldnt care less. Kakashi is way more experienced, smarter,and knows more jutsu. Over a thousand more. Thats a thousand ways to counter attacks.

He is not faster than Kakashi never was that even hinted. Kakashi keeps up with Gai.

You a fool if you think Hebi Sasuke Outclasses Kakashi.
Agreed
 

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- Kakashi can handle a 3 tail or even a 4 tail Naruto. he was fighting and winning against other V2 bijuu during the War
- He wouldn't need Kamui against Hebi sasuke
- Completely utterly wrong. Kakashi is renowned for his speed
- He's a master of raiton, katon, suiton and doton and continues to show us new techs throughout the entire manga
- Kirin needs prep. he'll kill hebi before he can finish it
1. War arc.
2. Wrong. Also subjective.
3. Not by feats, or hype, actually.
4. Means nothing. Bring something tangible to the discussion, not grand generalizations.
5. Wrong again.
 

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1. War arc.
2. Wrong. Also subjective.
3. Not by feats, or hype, actually.
4. Means nothing. Bring something tangible to the discussion, not grand generalizations.
5. Wrong again.
Kakashi was the same from the beginning to the end of Shippuden. Only improvement was Kamui. He even used the lightning wolf against pain. He didnt suddenly get better just for a War Arc. Use your common sense.
 

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Fail thread. Sasuke never outclassed team 7. :coffee:
If you mean't how things would go if Kakashi was there, and Naruto decided to fight? Then Sasuke would prob. be brought back to the village. I'm sure Oro was low on chakra, since his scuffle with 4 tails Naruto.
 

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How does Orochimaru underestimating Sasuke downplay Sasuke again? Orochimaru himself stated he couldn't keep fighting Naruto because his body failed. He was wiping the floor with 3 tails Naruto, and only left at 4 tails, which nearly murdered Jiraiya who is leagues above Kakashi at that time.

Sasuke's shunshin speed has always been remarkable. He even has an entire databook section dedicated to his "godlike" speed, something Kakashi does not have.
It doesn't downplay sasuke it shows he doesn't know enough about sasuke to make any judgement also he made that statement right after naruto clawed his face. How does a single attack prove naruto was inferior? It is clear that oro was saying that just to rile up naruto.

Itachi and gai are leagues above sasuke in speed at that time yet they didn't receive DB pages talking about their speed so this point is moot. Another thing to note is sasuke and naruto are the main characters from my knowledge they always get the most pages dedicated to them hence sasuke getting that page. While his speed was impressive and definitely faster than most he wasn't that fast.
 
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