Manda durability vs 3rd Raikage

[Zexion~]

Where'd you get insides turned to a blood pulp from?

He died didn't he.

 

[Apêx1]

Raikage against cutting attacks, even though I have been thinking about Manda II's durability and he more then likely can survive a standard TBB given regular Manda survived (for a few moments) the epicentre of a 10km explosion that's much stronger than a TBB as far as I am concerned. Also, it was implied a mini-TBB could do the trick against Sandaime, Manda would definitely not die from such an attack. People like to downgrade the C0 feat because Manda was able to survive, but wanting to downgrade is not the equivalent of being capable of downgrading via debunking it. Calcs (I'm not saying calcs are to be taken literally, but they give the most logical and quantifiable way of looking at things) that low ball C0 to the extreme still put C0 way above TBB.

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. It's dwarfing mountain ranges horizontally and it's far larger vertically than it is horizontally. Manda was in the epicentre of that explosion for a few seconds were the temperatures easily exceed 100 million celsius. People don't know how explosions work if they think a 10km wide and ~20km high explosion can have low energy per area, it would never get close to that big with little energy per area since energy decays exponentially as the explosion gets larger and larger. Manda is weak against cutting attacks while Raikage is strong against them, Manda is strong versus energy attacks/blunt force seeing how he didn't get smashed to pieces by the blast whereas Raikage might've died from mini-TBB and got decently affected by KCM FRS.

 

[Curse Mark]

It didn't have external damage

Both he and Sasuke were covered in burns, with Manda's being much worse.

He died didn't he.

You can die before damage liquefies your insides..

Raikage against cutting attacks, even though I have been thinking about Manda II's durability and he more then likely can survive a standard TBB given regular Manda survived (for a few moments) the epicentre of a 10km explosion that's much stronger than a TBB as far as I am concerned. Also, it was implied a mini-TBB could do the trick against Sandaime, Manda would definitely not die from such an attack. People like to downgrade the C0 feat because Manda was able to survive, but wanting to downgrade is not the equivalent of being capable of downgrading via debunking it. Calcs (I'm not saying calcs are to be taken literally, but they give the most logical and quantifiable way of looking at things) that low ball C0 to the extreme still put C0 way above TBB.

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. It's dwarfing mountain ranges horizontally and it's far larger vertically than it is horizontally. Manda was in the epicentre of that explosion for a few seconds were the temperatures easily exceed 100 million celsius. People don't know how explosions work if they think a 10km wide and ~20km high explosion can have low energy per area, it would never get close to that big with little energy per area since energy decays exponentially as the explosion gets larger and larger. Manda is weak against cutting attacks while Raikage is strong against them, Manda is strong versus energy attacks/blunt force seeing how he didn't get smashed to pieces by the blast whereas Raikage might've died from mini-TBB and got decently affected by KCM FRS.

He was never in the center, the very ege of the explosion had just hit manda as they warped.

 

[Apêx1]

Both he and Sasuke were covered in burns, with Manda's being much worse.




You can die before damage liquefies your insides..




He was never in the center, the very ege of the explosion had just hit manda as they warped.

Sasuke was legit 5 or so meters from Deidara who was the origin point of the explosion. How can you possibly tell me Sasuke wasn't in the epicentre? And don't even say he moved wen he was sitting on the floor

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[Curse Mark]

Sasuke was legit 5 or so meters from Deidara who was the origin point of the explosion. How can you possibly tell me Sasuke wasn't in the epicentre? And don't even say he moved wen he was sitting on the floor

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I got you with MS Paint.

If the very edge of the explosion was just reaching Sasuke, it'd look like this.

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Black= Deidara

 

[Haizaki]

Raikage against cutting attacks, even though I have been thinking about Manda II's durability and he more then likely can survive a standard TBB given regular Manda survived (for a few moments) the epicentre of a 10km explosion that's much stronger than a TBB as far as I am concerned. Also, it was implied a mini-TBB could do the trick against Sandaime, Manda would definitely not die from such an attack. People like to downgrade the C0 feat because Manda was able to survive, but wanting to downgrade is not the equivalent of being capable of downgrading via debunking it. Calcs (I'm not saying calcs are to be taken literally, but they give the most logical and quantifiable way of looking at things) that low ball C0 to the extreme still put C0 way above TBB.

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. It's dwarfing mountain ranges horizontally and it's far larger vertically than it is horizontally. Manda was in the epicentre of that explosion for a few seconds were the temperatures easily exceed 100 million celsius. People don't know how explosions work if they think a 10km wide and ~20km high explosion can have low energy per area, it would never get close to that big with little energy per area since energy decays exponentially as the explosion gets larger and larger. Manda is weak against cutting attacks while Raikage is strong against them, Manda is strong versus energy attacks/blunt force seeing how he didn't get smashed to pieces by the blast whereas Raikage might've died from mini-TBB and got decently affected by KCM FRS.

@Bolds...Nothing was implied. Read the middle of this scan and that shows what led to the Mini BD

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Nothing like that was implied because he thought that was the route to take after hearing Hachibi was involved.


OP: Probably The Third...Plus Edos aren't as durable as their alive bodies so there's slightly more to the Third's durability.

 

[Apêx1]

I got you with MS Paint.

If the very edge of the explosion was just reaching Sasuke, it'd look like this.

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Blue= Sasuke
Black= Deidara

Bruh.

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Green background is small portion of the explosion, green circle is the epicentre where Sasuke was hit. Explosion hit him in the epicentre, outskirts would mean the areas of lower AOE, meaning at the end of the 10km and not the outside of the 5 meter initiation blast.

@Bolds...Nothing was implied. Read the middle of this scan and that shows what led to the Mini BD

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Nothing like that was implied because he thought that was the route to take after hearing Hachibi was involved.


OP: Probably The Third...Plus Edos aren't as durable as their alive bodies so there's slightly more to the Third's durability.

Seems like you're right, I think the anime hyped it up way more.

 

[Curse Mark]

Bruh.

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Green background is small portion of the explosion, green circle is the epicentre where Sasuke was hit. Explosion hit him in the epicentre, outskirts would mean the areas of lower AOE, meaning at the end of the 10km and not the outside of the 5 meter initiation blast.



Seems like you're right, I think the anime hyped it up way more.

If the explosion had just reached sasuke he would be on the edge of the green dome, not inside of it.

 

[deadp00l]

The only thing that was said was that raikage and eight tails collapsed while activating their respective jutsus.

Bijuu dama would have dispersed harmlessly without proper concentration as shown

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Manda surving bijuu dama, how about no, summons may be as big as bijuus but they are nowhere near as tough as them.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Is it fair to say Raikage has the same durability as Hachibi? I thought they rivaled each other.

 

[Apêx1]

If the explosion had just reached sasuke he would be on the edge of the green dome, not inside of it.

The green dome is the epicentre of the explosion, not supposed to show were Sasuke gets hit. Sasuke gets hit at the end of his pink character. That's still within the epicentre since that's the area of highest energy concentration.. You have the wrong idea of how explosions work. As the explosion grows it encompasses more and more volume and thus exponentially loses its energy. The very centre is the point where it has the most energy and the further you go the lesser the energy. Sasuke being at the 'outskirts' of the detonation point doesn't mean anything since that location is basically the epicentre/detonation point.

Is it fair to say Raikage has the same durability as Hachibi? I thought they rivaled each other.

Raikage has far greater penetrative resistance whereas Hachibi has far more energetic resistance. Just like Manda/Raikage. Ay can cop off Hachibi's horns and Gobi pierces Hachibi's main body pretty brutally. Hachibi also survived his own TBB, whereas Sandaime was slightly affected by FRS but can withstand 2 finger Nukite. You can't compare it to IRL physics at all, but it is what it is.

 

[Curse Mark]

The green dome is the epicentre of the explosion, not supposed to show were Sasuke gets hit. Sasuke gets hit at the end of his pink character. That's still within the epicentre since that's the area of highest energy concentration.. You have the wrong idea of how explosions work. As the explosion grows it encompasses more and more volume and thus exponentially loses its energy. The very centre is the point where it has the most energy and the further you go the lesser the energy. Sasuke being at the 'outskirts' of the detonation point doesn't mean anything since that location is basically the epicentre/detonation point.



Raikage has far greater penetrative resistance whereas Hachibi has far more energetic resistance. Just like Manda/Raikage. Ay can cop off Hachibi's horns and Gobi pierces Hachibi's main body pretty brutally. Hachibi also survived his own TBB, whereas Sandaime was slightly affected by FRS but can withstand 2 finger Nukite. You can't compare it to IRL physics at all, but it is what it is.

Would Sasuke not be at the edge of the epicenter then if it was just hitting him?

 

[EZQ]

Both he and Sasuke were covered in burns, with Manda's being much worse.
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Yes, but for an explosion like that, that's barely external damage. Manda's skin is very durable to not have been obliverated to an attack which probably has near the power of a TBB.

 

[Apêx1]

Would Sasuke not be at the edge of the epicenter then if it was just hitting him?

No, he'd be 5 meters from the origin of the explosion which is practically the epicentre of a 10,000 meter explosion, 2,000 times the size of the distance between Sasuke and Deidara. Not that it matters, because the explosion is still in the millions of degrees celsius and the blast is at its most powerful.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Manda has a hard skin, but it's internal organs don't. That's why his skin was intact after c0 but his insides were turned into a blood pulp.

Manda is just useful to use as a shield, but don't expect him to survive after. Not to mention it only tanked c0 for a second after it got teleported away, it wasn't a full tank feat.

If Manda insides were ruined how come Sasuke who was inside Manda didn't take any damage.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I got you with MS Paint.

If the very edge of the explosion was just reaching Sasuke, it'd look like this.

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Blue= Sasuke
Black= Deidara

This post doesn't make sense. Sasuke was literally about 15-20 feet away from Deidara yet he was hit by the edge of the explosion? How is that possible when Diedara was the focal point of the explosion.

 

[Curse Mark]

If Manda insides were ruined how come Sasuke who was inside Manda didn't take any damage.

Sasuke was covered in burns. Smfh. Can you read?

This post doesn't make sense. Sasuke was literally about 15-20 feet away from Deidara yet he was hit by the edge of the explosion? How is that possible when Diedara was the focal point of the explosion.

Again can you read? Sasuke was said he was just hit right as he warped. So the blast would have just been reaching him.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke was covered in burns. Smfh. Can you read?



Again can you read? Sasuke was said he was just hit right as he warped. So the blast would have just been reaching him.

Sasuke wasn't covered in burns he was covered in scuff marks. Also he already had those wounds prior to going inside Manda mouth.

 

[Curse Mark]

Sasuke wasn't covered in burns he was covered in scuff marks. Also he already had those wounds prior to going inside Manda mouth.

Pretty obvious his body is in better condition before [

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[Lord Tywin]

Whatever bullshit MERCER comes up with can't refute the fact that Sasuke "states" both him and Manda were caught by the blast