Turkey shoots down Russian Jet

[YowYan]

Lmao, please stop.

Get your head out of the dirt, ostrich.

[video=youtube;JxTVwHXGfvI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxTVwHXGfvI[/video]

What do you guys think?

 

[Bored38]

WW3 will consist of Team USA and other Central Bank nations vs. Team Russia and other non Central Bank nations. Why? Because every Central Bank nation is in debt up to their eyeballs to the bankers which gives control of those nations to the bankers. They want that money and control over every nation.

 

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Take it with a grain of salt though.

It is interesting to note that not that long ago Erdogan's regime was considered some kind of exemplerey 'Islamic Democratic' haven, and now it's a black sheep all of a sudden. West, you gotta love em.

That was denied by Kremlin:

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That is classical Western pattern for having the control in Middle East they put people on charge and/or highly support them, when they want a change or mess they start sladering politics which will be followed by overthrowing ruling mass. Then this continues in need of another change. Decades ago Taliban was portrayed in positive light in Western. During Arab spring Muslim brothers were postive non-radicals leading the uprising now they became another arm of ISIS's idealogy. I remember people holding Erdogan's posters around during Arab Spring protests, it was horrible tbh.

He is not even progressive at all, it is just that our country already had a democratic/secular regime before him while outsiders thought we were riding camels in desert and men had 4 wives like they assume for every Muslim country. After rise of social media and information flow people started to learn more -just on surface level though- Erdogan's regime seemed obviously beyond that deserty-4 wifey assumption thus the "ideal Islamic democratic country" image came out.

No wonder all these is happening though, Erdogan's about to get wasted by his users even though i despise him this change of climate towards him reminds me how dependent we are as a country.

 

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He is not even progressive at all, it is just that our country already had a democratic/secular regime before him while outsiders thought we were riding camels in desert and men had 4 wives like they assume for every Muslim country. After rise of social media and information flow people started to learn more -just on surface level though- Erdogan's regime seemed obviously beyond that deserty-4 wifey assumption thus the "ideal Islamic democratic country" image came out.

No wonder all these is happening though, Erdogan's about to get wasted by his users even though i despise him this change of climate towards him reminds me how dependent we are as a country.

He pulled Turkey out of the crisis in the early 2000s and improved the country's infrastructure. Turkey's GDP increased from $300 billion in his term to $800 billion in 2014.

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Get your head out of the dirt, ostrich.

Come on Yow, don't be like that. You don't even know what I said 'Lmao, please stop' at.

 

[Angelic.]

no wonder the pilot couldnt hear the warning. turkeys just say gobble gobble

 

[shelke]

That was denied by Kremlin:

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That is classical Western pattern for having the control in Middle East they put people on charge and/or highly support them, when they want a change or mess they start sladering politics which will be followed by overthrowing ruling mass. Then this continues in need of another change. Decades ago Taliban was portrayed in positive light in Western. During Arab spring Muslim brothers were postive non-radicals leading the uprising now they became another arm of ISIS's idealogy. I remember people holding Erdogan's posters around during Arab Spring protests, it was horrible tbh.

He is not even progressive at all, it is just that our country already had a democratic/secular regime before him while outsiders thought we were riding camels in desert and men had 4 wives like they assume for every Muslim country. After rise of social media and information flow people started to learn more -just on surface level though- Erdogan's regime seemed obviously beyond that deserty-4 wifey assumption thus the "ideal Islamic democratic country" image came out.

No wonder all these is happening though, Erdogan's about to get wasted by his users even though i despise him this change of climate towards him reminds me how dependent we are as a country.

Al Qaeda was created by America in every sense of the word. People keep forgetting that how they were funded and used against Russia few decades ago.

And that's a good thing. It's the people that should bring the change and call for changes in their countries. A foreign intervation is never done out of the goodness of ones hearts. If the present state of affairs in the war-torn regions teaches us anything, then it's the exact opposite.

 

[YowYan]

Come on Yow, don't be like that. You don't even know what I said 'Lmao, please stop' at.

Oh, come on. Let me have this one -.- I thought that ostrich remark was original.
What now, you meant it in another way?

 

[Multiply]

Oh, come on. Let me have this one -.- I thought that ostrich remark was original.
What now, you meant it in another way?

Because of the source of that image. It's like the image presents those statements, then when you look for its sources it says it's in his book coming out soon.

Also, because it said the US directly supplies ISIS via air drops. Laughable at best.

 

[paratise]

He pulled Turkey out of the crisis in the early 2000s and improved the country's infrastructure. Turkey's GDP increased from $300 billion in his term to $800 billion in 2014.

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I won't even watch that video since i can see that it is full of balloon arguements that i have seen for years for about every week.

That money that supposedely illustrates that we are 'growing as country' comes from selling our own corporations and institues to foreign businesses. It is temporary and not useful.

Here is the list of the stuff this regime sold out; no need to know the language the matter is that it is a huge ****ing list:

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Speaking of infrastructure; many things people praise the current party for (like subways for ex.) are products of improved technology and methods accordingly to their timeline. Improvement? Such as destruction of forests, gentrifications, making structures at inadequate places, harming under ground water sources and all against our improvement & construction rules & plans? About 5 years ago Van (an Eastern city) have been struck by an earthquake. When people asked for what happened to over a billion lira of taxes they said "we made double roads with them" such infrastructure much wow.

I am not even getting into other economical matters like current accound deficts, unemployment rates, income imbalance, corruption or sub conract issues. Also i never mentioned about economic aspect of Erdoğan regime, i do not know why did you reply with that. Btw some comments of that video were vomit inducing.

Al Qaeda was created by America in every sense of the word. People keep forgetting that how they were funded and used against Russia few decades ago.

And that's a good thing. It's the people that should bring the change and call for changes in their countries. A foreign intervation is never done out of the goodness of ones hearts. If the present state of affairs in the war-torn regions teaches us anything, then it's the exact opposite.

The bad thing is the change (if that happens) will be accordingly what outer powerful Western parties want; like Arab Spring or current resistence in Syria. These uprisings have ties to people's actual issues, but both are set-ups based on interests of outer parties.

 

[YowYan]

Because of the source of that image. It's like the image presents those statements, then when you look for its sources it says it's in his book coming out soon.

Also, because it said the US directly supplies ISIS via air drops. Laughable at best.

Have you checked the facts yourself then? Before deeming it laughable

 

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Have you checked the facts yourself then? Before deeming it laughable

I don't need to do further research into a topic I know. I know for a fact the US is not directly supplying ISIS. It's not like they're coordinating drop points. No amounts of conjecture will make me believe such an idiotic jest.

 

[YowYan]

I don't need to do further research into a topic I know. I know for a fact the US is not directly supplying ISIS. It's not like they're coordinating drop points. No amounts of conjecture will make me believe such an idiotic jest.

So you just assume ._. cool cool

 

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So you just assume ._. cool cool

I just told you I know the topic. I've done research on the topic previous to the existence of this thread. There's no reason for me to do it again simply because you want me to.

 

[shelke]

The bad thing is the change (if that happens) will be accordingly what outer powerful Western parties want; like Arab Spring or current resistance in Syria. These uprisings have ties to people's actual issues, but both are set-ups based on interests of outer parties.

Obviously. USA has been funding in that region through Qatar channel for ages. I won't be surprised if ISIS is one such group.

 

[Nobel]

hahahaha, turkey belives what they want. Turkey does have evidence as audio recordings. but either the cockpit managed to ignore it or simply the signal wasnt strong enough to reach their communication device.

but this convo leads to waste of their time , knowing how there are several millions out there for craves for help. Russia knows better than chit-chating with a country like turkey.

 

[YowYan]

I just told you I know the topic. I've done research on the topic previous to the existence of this thread. There's no reason for me to do it again simply because you want me to.

You really don't know the topic then

 

[Nobel]

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[Honord Sage]

This was bound to happen Russia plays to close to other peoples borders,add to the fact that Russia and Turkey are centuries long enemies.

 

[kaba]

Russia does not strike ISIS at all, those whom being stroke by Russia are civilian only. Booten, you will be F.....k in Syria like in Afghanistan.