Manda durability vs 3rd Raikage

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Who's more durable and why?

Manda best feat is having its body intact after an explosion like C0 while the 3rd had edo dust bursting from his body from a standard size frs. Reverse roles

Also can Manda 2 tank a standard bijuu dama.
 

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Manda has a hard skin, but it's internal organs don't. That's why his skin was intact after c0 but his insides were turned into a blood pulp.

Manda is just useful to use as a shield, but don't expect him to survive after. Not to mention it only tanked c0 for a second after it got teleported away, it wasn't a full tank feat.
 

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Manda has a hard skin, but it's internal organs don't. That's why his skin was intact after c0 but his insides were turned into a blood pulp.

Manda is just useful to use as a shield, but don't expect him to survive after. Not to mention it only tanked c0 for a second after it got teleported away, it wasn't a full tank feat.

Where'd you get insides turned to a blood pulp from?
 

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Total durability =/= durability per unit. Raikage is more durable.
 

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Where'd you get insides turned to a blood pulp from?

It died, and it didn't have external damage so it obviously died from internal damage
 

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It died, and it didn't have external damage so it obviously died from internal damage

Obviously there was some type of fatal internal damage, but you said his insides were turned to pulp so I thought maybe you saw something I didn't notice or something.
 

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Obviously there was some type of fatal internal damage, but you said his insides were turned to pulp so I thought maybe you saw something I didn't notice or something.

Haha no i was joking. I meant his insides were damaged just that.
 

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It died, and it didn't have external damage so it obviously died from internal damage

Didn't have internal organs? Where and when was this stated? Didn't sasuke come from his insides? Protected?

Ot: aye
 

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Ay III is more durable. As EZQ said, Manda didn't even stay in the full blast of C0, since he got de-summoned.
 

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Oh yeah, no. Manda II cannot tank Bijuu Dama.
 

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SO you now agree Aye 3 can Tank BD as hinted in the manga?

No, I don't. If FRS messed him up that badly, an elemental advantage isn't going to help him survive something many many times stronger than that. Especially with no damage since he was uninjured from his fight with Hachibi bar the stab wound he gave himself.
 

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No, I don't. If FRS messed him up that badly, an elemental advantage isn't going to help him survive something many many times stronger than that. Especially with no damage since he was uninjured from his fight with Hachibi bar the stab wound he gave himself.
On phone so want go in detail, but:

Had a long wore out fight shows no signs real damage to either bijuu or aye, both moves in hand before both pass out ready to fire. After both moves are used dange is shown to both. The damage was similar to when 8 tails tanked his own tbb.

Now..

afternoon tiger was never shown to bust susanoo, never stated. But we assume based on implications it did. Hmmm
 

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On phone so want go in detail, but:

Had a long wore out fight shows no signs real damage to either bijuu or aye, both moves in hand before both pass out ready to fire. After both moves are used dange is shown to both. The damage was similar to when 8 tails tanked his own tbb.

Now..

afternoon tiger was never shown to bust susanoo, never stated. But we assume based on implications it did. Hmmm



He had 2 blood spots and then some scuffs around his face and shoulders. Nothing compared to this amount of damage when we look at the same exact areas.




Throw that on top of the fact that he was almost injured by a far far weaker attack and you come to the conclusion that there is no way he can block Bijuu Dama. What happened to the Bijuu Dama when he passed out is unknown for sure. Either it blew up, or it simply crumbled apart like it did when Naruto dropped Gates on Kurama's neck. The latter is more likely due to the aforementioned occurrences.
 

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He had 2 blood spots and then some scuffs around his face and shoulders. Nothing compared to this amount of damage when we look at the same exact areas.




Throw that on top of the fact that he was almost injured by a far far weaker attack and you come to the conclusion that there is no way he can block Bijuu Dama. What happened to the Bijuu Dama when he passed out is unknown for sure. Either it blew up, or it simply crumbled apart like it did when Naruto dropped Gates on Kurama's neck. The latter is more likely due to the aforementioned occurrences.

The crumble eff was a on head feat, other wise naruto can preform gates of the god and 8 tails can swallow kyubi a bd.

The damage vs the jb was point blank in mid area in air, the would be damage vs Aye would have been shoulder otter body mainly due to him falling forward and the ground protecting his mid area mostly. There is literally no way both ninjas could have been damage other then a bd whether standard or not doesn't matter. They're last moves stated by 8 tails before damage was done was be and hellstab, either way they both got damaged and that's a fact.

FRS did nothing but remove his cloak, easily one of the most powerful moves ever shown snd had element advantage only removed the lightning yet his body tanked the remainder blow like it was nothing. No one is arguing is FRS is equal to bd, but forsure FRS did nothing to aye but remove his cloak. Unless there is concrete proof on how that damage magically appeared it's assumed it was bd even the 8 tails thought it was bd. this is wayyyy more proof then ppl thinking afternoon tiger wrecked v3 madara yet ppl take that as "fact".
 

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Sandaime Raikage tanked a Bijuudama that can bust an entire mountain.

I can't see Manda tanking a Bijuudama.
 

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The crumble eff was a on head feat, other wise naruto can preform gates of the god and 8 tails can swallow kyubi a bd.

The damage vs the jb was point blank in mid area in air, the would be damage vs Aye would have been shoulder otter body mainly due to him falling forward and the ground protecting his mid area mostly. There is literally no way both ninjas could have been damage other then a bd whether standard or not doesn't matter. They're last moves stated by 8 tails before damage was done was be and hellstab, either way they both got damaged and that's a fact.

FRS did nothing but remove his cloak, easily one of the most powerful moves ever shown snd had element advantage only removed the lightning yet his body tanked the remainder blow like it was nothing. No one is arguing is FRS is equal to bd, but forsure FRS did nothing to aye but remove his cloak. Unless there is concrete proof on how that damage magically appeared it's assumed it was bd even the 8 tails thought it was bd. this is wayyyy more proof then ppl thinking afternoon tiger wrecked v3 madara yet ppl take that as "fact".

The location of Naruto's fight has nothing to do with how Kurama's Bijuu Dama reacts after the user has been pinned.

-Naruto being able to fly in his head makes sense because it's his head.
-Hachibi blocked a pathetically tiny Bijuu Dama from Kurama. Smallest one ever used in this Manga bar the ones used by KN4 and KN6. If it was a regular sized one he'd be dead.
-Naruto can perform that because that is his sealing Jutsu. Has nothing to do with his head.

So? Bijuu Dama creates a Mountain sized explosion. Hachibi laying on the floor doesn't mean that Hachibi's entire body wasn't damaged. All Hachibi said was that they fell forward holding their jutsu and that was the end of the fight. He never once said that they were fighting without injury until they both fell holding their jutsu.

FRS put him on the ground for a few seconds and he had flakes and steam coming off his body. It barely injured him, but it injured him. So how does he survive BD with no damage? Because the only technique that hurt him during his fight with the

Hachibi had no idea what caused the scar on Raikage's chest. He assumed BD, but then realized that he was wrong. People say Hirudora destroyed V3 because Mokuton was undone after Madara was hit, and people don't think Raikage tanked Bijuu Dama because he almost got wrecked by a weaker attack. A far weaker attack at that.
 

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Didn't have internal organs? Where and when was this stated? Didn't sasuke come from his insides? Protected?

Ot: aye

It didn't have external damage
 
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