Was Sasuke a strong villain?

[UltraPain]

Was Sasuke a strong "villain"? This is in terms of writing and character, not power. Was he convincing or interesting? Yes or no and why?

Discuss :scorps:

 

[Melanin]

He was never a villain, just a misdirected counter part.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

He wasn't a villain. Tbh his plan didn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

[Monxstaa]

Naruto finished yet you ask if sasuke was a strong villain :|

 

[HENI]

He wasn't a villain

 

[UltraPain]

Naruto finished yet you ask if sasuke was a strong villain :|

Cool story bro. Got anything to contribute to the thread?

 

[Mari Makinami]

But he never was a villain to begin with :|

 

[To Whatever]

Sasuke might as well been a villain seeing how he was going to inevitably lose.

But he's a anti hero even though he spent a majority trying to murder people and plot to destroy konoha. Which at that point kind of did make him a villain but he was about as threatening as a idiot can get.

Seeing how Naruto basically told him he was going to fail and die if he attacked the village and how he stopped him from killing more people, I'd say he wasn't strong at all. In power maybe, but his resolution to do his plans crumbled and he started crying like a little girl.

 

[LightSo6p]

Yea i would put him pass madara but i know many will disagree

 

[Wparker6804]

He wasn't a villain. Tbh his plan didn't make a lot of sense to me.

Well I kind of understood. But he was never a villain, I agree. He was angry, misunderstood, solitary, confused, often manipulated & subjected to bad judgement. As a result he steered off path & Naruto used The Fist Of Friendship.

 

[Dantee]

Stronger than NAruto yes.

 

[Endles Waltz]

He was never a villain, but he was Naruto's strongest opponent after Kaguya. And he was one of the most interesting characters in the series.

 

[Scryed]

He was an antagonist but not a villain.

 

[Warlocks]

strong villain nop

 

[LightSo6p]

Sasuke might as well been a villain seeing how he was going to inevitably lose.

But he's a anti hero even though he spent a majority trying to murder people and plot to destroy konoha. Which at that point kind of did make him a villain but he was about as threatening as a idiot can get.

Seeing how Naruto basically told him he was going to fail and die if he attacked the village and how he stopped him from killing more people, I'd say he wasn't strong at all. In power maybe, but his resolution to do his plans crumbled and he started crying like a little girl.

Well I kind of understood. But he was never a villain, I agree. He was angry, misunderstood, solitary, confused, often manipulated & subjected to bad judgement. As a result he steered off path & Naruto used The Fist Of Friendship.

His plan was exactly the same as i ndra plan ... He wasn't misunderstood lots of people tried to be there for him u forget he wanted to be alone he would of had way more friends then naruto if he wanted .. and wasnt subjected to and thing oro told him if he want power come find him he could of train but he didnt want to he fast power ups and that chose was made by him after he fought naruto ..he's not the only person who lost people i understand he was angry but why take it out on the whole world like he said he was?? Point is sasuke did what he did on his only nobody made him...

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I'd rather call Sasuke an anti-hero, rather than a "villain". A villain is an antagonist, Sasuke was a deuteragonist. He was basically a counterpart to Naruto who was misguided and walked the wrong evil direction for the most part.

But coming to the point... If you're just referring to Sasuke as a anti-hero, then yeah, Sasuke was a strong one, a very strong one indeed. But against Naruto as an opponent, he wasn't relatively strong or that impressive, considering the fact that Naruto could fight him with just as much difficulty without stressing out about the idea of living. He comfortably countered everything Sasuke threw at him, which made Sasuke look weak as a villain should be. And it also made the fight look very bland when the hero isn't being posed to utmost painfulness. I was expecting Naruto to struggle against Sasuke, to be on his toes mingling between life and death, while Sasuke should comfortably fight Naruto and the end result should be the same due to Naruto's guts, willpower and quick thinking.

An ideal fight should be the one in which the hero should have less power and immense hardship against the opponent but the willpower and strategy to match, while the opponent should more power and should fight with ease but the arrogance and wickedness leading to his defeat. After Sasuke absorbed the bijuus chakra and supercharged his PS, this was what I was expecting. But I guess Kishi screwed up and decided to counter that by giving Naruto more power to match.

So I wouldn't say that Sasuke was a convincing anti-hero.

 

[LightSo6p]

So what makes a person a villain. ... And if sasuke wasn't a villain how about obito

 

[LightSo6p]

I'd rather call Sasuke an anti-hero, rather than a "villain". A villain is an antagonist, Sasuke was a deuteragonist. He was basically a counterpart to Naruto who was misguided and walked the wrong evil direction for the most part.

But coming to the point... If you're just referring to Sasuke as a anti-hero, then yeah, Sasuke was a strong one, a very strong one indeed. But against Naruto as an opponent, he wasn't relatively strong or that impressive, considering the fact that Naruto could fight him with just as much difficulty without stressing out about the idea of living. He comfortably countered everything Sasuke threw at him, which made Sasuke look weak as a villain should be. And it also made the fight look very bland when the hero isn't being posed to utmost painfulness. I was expecting Naruto to struggle against Sasuke, to be on his toes mingling between life and death, while Sasuke should comfortably fight Naruto and the end result should be the same due to Naruto's guts and willpower.

An ideal fight should be the one in which the hero should have less power and immense hardship against the opponent but the willpower and strategy to match, while the opponent should more power and should fight with ease but the arrogance and wickedness leading to his defeat. After Sasuke absorbed the bijuus chakra and supercharged his PS, this was what I was expecting. But I guess Kishi screwed up and decided to counter that by giving Naruto more power to match.

I would say obito was misguided sasuke had a chose more then ones but he he took the dark path ... Unlike obito he wasn't under nobody control he was looking for power and would of did what ever for it

 

[Wparker6804]

I'd rather call Sasuke an anti-hero, rather than a "villain". A villain is an antagonist, Sasuke was a deuteragonist. He was basically a counterpart to Naruto who was misguided and walked the wrong evil direction for the most part.

But coming to the point... If you're just referring to Sasuke as a anti-hero, then yeah, Sasuke was a strong one, a very strong one indeed. But against Naruto as an opponent, he wasn't relatively strong or that impressive, considering the fact that Naruto could fight him with just as much difficulty without stressing out about the idea of living. He comfortably countered everything Sasuke threw at him, which made Sasuke look weak as a villain should be. And it also made the fight look very bland when the hero isn't being posed to utmost painfulness. I was expecting Naruto to struggle against Sasuke, to be on his toes mingling between life and death, while Sasuke should comfortably fight Naruto and the end result should be the same due to Naruto's guts, willpower and quick thinking.

An ideal fight should be the one in which the hero should have less power and immense hardship against the opponent but the willpower and strategy to match, while the opponent should more power and should fight with ease but the arrogance and wickedness leading to his defeat. After Sasuke absorbed the bijuus chakra and supercharged his PS, this was what I was expecting. But I guess Kishi screwed up and decided to counter that by giving Naruto more power to match.

So I wouldn't say that Sasuke was a convincing anti-hero.

Thing is, Naruto started off like that. Being outmatched but using cleverness, being unpredictable & having more wit made him victorious. But they wavered away from that as most have said in the past. It went back to its roots against Kaguya but it didn't stick during the final clash.

 

[SatanicGod]

I'd rather call Sasuke an anti-hero, rather than a "villain". A villain is an antagonist, Sasuke was a deuteragonist. He was basically a counterpart to Naruto who was misguided and walked the wrong evil direction for the most part.

But coming to the point... If you're just referring to Sasuke as a anti-hero, then yeah, Sasuke was a strong one, a very strong one indeed. But against Naruto as an opponent, he wasn't relatively strong or that impressive, considering the fact that Naruto could fight him with just as much difficulty without stressing out about the idea of living. He comfortably countered everything Sasuke threw at him, which made Sasuke look weak as a villain should be. And it also made the fight look very bland when the hero isn't being posed to utmost painfulness. I was expecting Naruto to struggle against Sasuke, to be on his toes mingling between life and death, while Sasuke should comfortably fight Naruto and the end result should be the same due to Naruto's guts, willpower and quick thinking.

An ideal fight should be the one in which the hero should have less power and immense hardship against the opponent but the willpower and strategy to match, while the opponent should more power and should fight with ease but the arrogance and wickedness leading to his defeat. After Sasuke absorbed the bijuus chakra and supercharged his PS, this was what I was expecting. But I guess Kishi screwed up and decided to counter that by giving Naruto more power to match.

So I wouldn't say that Sasuke was a convincing anti-hero.

Comfortably? Lol he didn't comfortably counter anything aside from maybe the initial attack (fireball Jutsu) which was merely a distraction