[VS] Hyuga Neji Takes The Gauntlet!!!

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I think what FT is pointing out that no one noticed is that the rotation didn't blow the webs away. It doesn't matter that they didn't touch Neji until he stopped, they didn't get thrown off like people said Kiba would.
no, in every panel the webs were being blown around neji until he stopped spinning & releasing chakra to reset himself - (then deflected an arrow by diverting from kaiten to a directed chakra blow, that kido remarks too, after completely stopping). he decided it was futile.

this, because he was also gaurding his blind spot from kidos sniping under the cover of the spiders. that why he needed to keep his spin & not just blow things away.

but people have trouble w/ context around here, so...

...like people said Kiba would
again w/ the strawman/fallacious comparison
 
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no, in every panel the webs were being blown around neji until he stopped spinning & releasing chakra to reset himself - (then deflected an arrow by diverting from kaiten to a directed chakra blow, that kido remarks too, after completely stopping). he decided it was futile.

this, because he was also gaurding his blind spot from kidos sniping under the cover of the spiders. that why he needed to keep his spin & not just blow things away.

but people have trouble w/ context around here, so...

again w/ the strawman/fallacious comparison
How is that a strawman fallacy? You said it would blow Kiba off when it didn't blow off the webs.
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This reply goes to Zex too, at that point they weren't being held down by anything the spiders are just bouncing off and the webs aren't being thrown off.
 

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How is that a strawman fallacy? You said it would blow Kiba off when it didn't blow off the webs.
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This reply goes to Zex too, at that point they weren't being held down by anything the spiders are just bouncing off and the webs aren't being thrown off.
If u ask me it is really simple to understand xD and i wont explain it, i think it doesnt even need explanation :)
 

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I just adressed this w/ the panel you posted. nothing touched neji until he decided to stop alltogether
And you completely missed the point, once again. The webs were solely used in order to stop Kaitens rotation. And that is exactly what it did. The webs not touching Neji until he stopped emitting the chakra is irrelevant, because that wasn't the webs purpose. The defenses strength comes from the speed of it's rotation in order to parry attacks away, not when it's stationary.



I never contended that

I said that kiba cant affect nejis kaiten.

kibas rotation cannot counteract nejis, thats a fallacy on your part as kiba can only produce a single attack

kido countered the spinning by circling w/ a mass of webs & creating a perpetual drag on nejis spin.
You did, because the webs didn't overwhelm Kaiton with "mass/energy", nor did it hit Neji's body. It binded the Kaiten, and halted the rotation. Cannonical proof that Kaitens rotation can in fact be halted. I don't know what your meaning of mass is, but mine is a large body of matter, and Kiba fits the description. Kiba only producing "a single attack" is once again, irrelevant. His giant mass, driving penetrative force, and counteractive rotation will also create a drag on Neji's rotation. And it is a fallacy on your part that Kiba can only produce a single attack. With the addition of Kage Bunshins in his arsenal, Kiba can create two Sotoros - which can attack numerous times, as shown in the manga.
 

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Also, we have no reason to believe that Kiba (or a Kage Bunshin/Akamaru) can't travel underground to disrupt Neji from using Kaiten, while Sotoro is in use.
 
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Also, we have no reason to believe that Kiba (or a Kage Bunshin/Akamaru) can't travel underground to disrupt Neji from using Kaiten, while Sotoro is in use.
Wouldn't make any sense for Kiba/Akamaru to be able to use this without ever having utilised such a useful skill, plus, it's an earth release jutsu. Seems too far-fetched.
 

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You went on and on about practically nothing. Here we have Kaiten being completely countered by halting it's rotation. So your points on how Neji's rotation protects his body, him being anchored, and rotation pushing out regardless if it's even spinning or not has just been proven irrelevant and/or false.

I love love love how you took the manga out of context and placement yet again! lmao Brooooooooooooo!!!

No! The webs were , he couldn't spin anymore due to the webs . Fact! He was s , but ofc cannot spin forever so Kido waited for him to stop.

So no, you Literally tried to take the manga out of context but failed! Plus the fact the Webs have zero to do with anything Kiba related!



You may have a decent point, if Kiba attacks from the sides, but not from top center of it. Garoga, as stated and conveniently ignored, carries enough energy and force to drive a giant dent into a Rashomin gate back in part one. With this amount of power and force driving into Kaiten from the top center while rotating the opposite way would be counteractive for both techniques. However, the one who loses here is Neji because his Kaiten defenses relies on it's rotation, while Kiba still retains the giant mass and force of his Sōtōrō weighing down on Neji regardless if it loses it's rotation.
Juubi's Hand Shits on Rashoman so whats your point? Show feats of Twin headed Drill coming from the top as if they can magically fly over neji while neji stands there and waits for them to get in place.

First fact: and use there nose to pin point where to attack. Neji would never ever be pissed on Do to reflexes and Chakra layer.This fact right here killed any would be argument. But I'll humor and continue.

Second fact: , and Sakon was only caught because of the acid like Saliva. And even then they . Neji who is faster easily side steps with the byakugan also helping.

Third fact: It uses a and they .

The Juubi's Hand Not only has more force and mass and acceleration, it was no use against Rotation! DO I need To break down the Power of the Juubi's Tail for you?



The burden of proof is actually on you when we have cannonically seen that Kaitens spin can be halted from the outside, which is exactly what Garoga would be doing. Tail Chasers sawed right through numerous Jubi clones (made of the Jubis body) with zero resistance, as if it were melted butter - which Sasukes Kusanagi blade and Naruto's FRS couldn't do to a single clone.
No you tried to twist the manga and I called you out on it. Rotation was never even started nor had the chance to start due to the webs being established after the first rotation stopped. SHino's bugs ate them like cake so whats your point? The Juubi fodders do not Compare to teh Juubi's hand! Fact! You would have to show that anything Kiba Equals the feats A Bijuu and Juubi Tail can out put. So back to sqaure one, Prove how powerful Kibas Jutsu is please! Rotation is already established WIth even the Juubi's tail being useless (juubi's tail mass is atleast 10000 times Nejis)





It's nothing like those because force is applied on them only once and they spin using that momentum. Neji uses his feet to keep spinning, the faster his feet move the faster his Kaiten rotates, it's not that he spins once and then he keeps turning around and around like a ballerina. Neji wasn't rotating fast enough as he himself stated, stop arguing against what he said. Either way, nothing suggests Kaiten is capable of stopping something which bisected Juubi clones like they were nothing when the blades of the FRS shuriken failed to bisect one.
Wait what? lmao You do know They cannot spin with there feet going in a perfect swirl right? Do you not Know how rotation works? lmao

Rotation works by twisting the body and Hips and spinning in one quick burst (similar to a ballerina or a break dancer). They then can use the momentum of there hips to keep the spin going if possible. For example in life, the faster you spin at first the more momentum you have keep spinning longer. It has nothing with your feet going in a circle, because then you wouldn't be spinning rapidly but rather running running in circles because the human legs & feet cannot spin in place with 2 feet on the ground. The Rotation wouldn't be stable and locked into one place but rather moving in all directions. One foot/leg is the spinning point with the other leg off the ground.

[video=youtube;5lCK4jkqQxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lCK4jkqQxA[/video]


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If any of you Know how to play basketball and know the spin move. It happens off One foot which allows you to then take one more step for a Lay up or Dunk. What you say makes zero sense and I have manga evidence plus life facts on my side that even a 4 year old can comprehend. His Two feet do not constantly run in place, that would be slower and make the dome move out of place instead of spinning perfectly in place.

How about to try to spin on one lag then try spinning on both feet.. Oh wait if it's impossible! But you can Run not SPIN in place with two feet, but again that is running and you'd have to be 8 gates speed to create a perfect blurred image in the center never moving the dome.
 

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Also, we have no reason to believe that Kiba (or a Kage Bunshin/Akamaru) can't travel underground to disrupt Neji from using Kaiten, while Sotoro is in use.
LMMFAO hahahahahahaha!!!!! Wait What? Plus the fact Byakugan See's underground too makes this even more funny. You act as though Neji would sit idle and do nothing in one spot! lmmfao This is rich with these Fanfic abilities! Kakashi Dogs are spl tracking ninja hounds! Kibas dog is a companion/partner. They haven't been trained in the same way as the Spl ninja dogs that uses a Jutsu to go underground.
 

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Wait what? lmao You do know They cannot spin with there feet going in a perfect swirl right? Do you not Know how rotation works? lmao

Rotation works by twisting the body and Hips and spinning in one quick burst (similar to a ballerina or a break dancer). They then can use the momentum of there hips to keep the spin going if possible. For example in life, the faster you spin at first the more momentum you have keep spinning longer. It has nothing with your feet going in a circle, because then you wouldn't be spinning rapidly but rather running running in circles because the human legs & feet cannot spin in place with 2 feet on the ground. The Rotation wouldn't be stable and locked into one place but rather moving in all directions. One foot/leg is the spinning point with the other leg off the ground.

[video=youtube;5lCK4jkqQxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lCK4jkqQxA[/video]


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If any of you Know how to play basketball and know the spin move. It happens off One foot which allows you to then take one more step for a Lay up or Dunk. What you say makes zero sense and I have manga evidence plus life facts on my side that even a 4 year old can comprehend. His Two feet do not constantly run in place, that would be slower and make the dome move out of place instead of spinning perfectly in place.

How about to try to spin on one lag then try spinning on both feet.. Oh wait if it's impossible! But you can Run not SPIN in place with two feet, but again that is running and you'd have to be 8 gates speed to create a perfect blurred image in the center never moving the dome.
Yes, you're right. But how does that change that he's nothing like a spinning bottle/bey blade, which you initially suggested? Either way, Neji didn't lose because the spin stopped, he outright stated he can't spin fast enough meaning he can maintain a certain speed;
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Plus, look at the background, he's INSIDE rotation yet his headband was taken off by a Mokuton stick. So obviously what you initially stated is wrong, since he didn't lose after he stopped spinning, he lost while he was still spinning.
You said:
In the image it shows neji for a fact deflecting multiple spikes till he couldn't spin anymore. Like literally in your face, what are you not seeing?
Yet I'm giving you the image showing his rotation is present while he's spinning but a Mokuton stick entering his rotation. Not sure how you can argue against an absolute manga fact here.
 

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Yes, you're right. But how does that change that he's nothing like a spinning bottle/bey blade, which you initially suggested? Either way, Neji didn't lose because the spin stopped, he outright stated he can't spin fast enough meaning he can maintain a certain speed;
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Plus, look at the background, he's INSIDE rotation yet his headband was taken off by a Mokuton stick. So obviously what you initially stated is wrong, since he didn't lose after he stopped spinning, he lost while he was still spinning.
You said:


Yet I'm giving you the image showing his rotation is present while he's spinning but a Mokuton stick entering his rotation. Not sure how you can argue against an absolute manga fact here.
I know I'm right sad I had to break it down to that level for a so called Hyuga fan. smh

Lmao... Wait... Please don't tell me.... You think The wind that is shown after every rotation is done... Is neji still spinning when he was hit with the spikes?....lol..... This is rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You officially know nothing about Rotation! LMMFAO Broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! DO you not know that the swirling wind stays around them becaus ethey was spinning that fast? Fact he deflected the spikes, the spike hit him once he stopped spinning! Please just stop.. Please Just... Stop.

Please tell me you we're serious!
 

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I know I'm right sad I had to break it down to that level for a so called Hyuga fan. smh

Lmao... Wait... Please don't tell me.... You think The wind that is shown after every rotation is done... Is neji still spinning when he was hit with the spikes?....lol..... This is rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You officially know nothing about Rotation! LMMFAO Broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! DO you not know that the swirling wind stays around them becaus ethey was spinning that fast? Fact he deflected the spikes, the spike hit him once he stopped spinning! Please just stop.. Please Just... Stop.

Please tell me you we're serious!
Jesus christ. Are you retarded dude? He SAYS he can't spin fast enough to keep deflecting them, meaning he was SPINNING at the time smfh.
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Wind my fukin ass, those are the rotation marks. Right now you're just consistently denying what is outright being said by Neji in that panel. Good for you buddy, you know your Hyuga shit so much even what Neji says is irrelevant in front of your word. Smh
 

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I know I'm right sad I had to break it down to that level for a so called Hyuga fan. smh

Lmao... Wait... Please don't tell me.... You think The wind that is shown after every rotation is done... Is neji still spinning when he was hit with the spikes?....lol..... This is rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You officially know nothing about Rotation! LMMFAO Broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! DO you not know that the swirling wind stays around them becaus ethey was spinning that fast? Fact he deflected the spikes, the spike hit him once he stopped spinning! Please just stop.. Please Just... Stop.

Please tell me you we're serious!
Why would it be wind if the ni&&a said he's still spinning?

What? He's sppinning and not releasing chakra?
He's spinning just for the fun of it?
 

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Jesus christ. Are you retarded dude? He SAYS he can't spin fast enough to keep deflecting them, meaning he was SPINNING at the time smfh.
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Wind my fukin ass, those are the rotation marks. Right now you're just consistently denying what is outright being said by Neji in that panel. Good for you buddy, you know your Hyuga shit so much even what Neji says is irrelevant in front of your word. Smh
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Damn some of you users are slow as fuq and try hard as hell to hold on to something!!! Where Dafuq is the Chakra where The Wood spike hit his head band? What The hell are you even seeing! He clearly stopped spinning its manga fact as his head band fell to the ground along with the spike! If it entered Rotation the remaining Ghost chakra that isn't there would have showed itself like every other rotation.
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He clearly stopped the rotation because he couldn't keep spinning. Are you so slow to lack common sense? Grab a Bottle, place it on the ground, spin it slow and see how long it keeps spinning. Now spin it as fast as you can and compare the stopping points. How hard is that is for you to grasp??????????????????????????????


How could it be in rotation as if Rotation is some sort of Barrier with a hollow inside. LMMAO Im Done with you, You from now on will get ignored!
 

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Damn some of you users are slow as fuq and try hard as hell to hold on to something!!! Where Dafuq is the Chakra where The Wood spike hit his head band? What The hell are you even seeing! He clearly stopped spinning its manga fact as his head band fell to the ground along with the spike! If it entered Rotation the remaining Ghost chakra that isn't there would have showed itself like every other rotation.
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He clearly stopped the rotation because he couldn't keep spinning. Are you so slow to lack common sense? Grab a Bottle, place it on the ground, spin it slow and see how long it keeps spinning. Now spin it as fast as you can and compare the stopping points. How hard is that is for you to grasp??????????????????????????????


How could it be in rotation as if Rotation is some sort of Barrier with a hollow inside. LMMAO Im Done with you, You from now on will get ignored!
"I can't spin.. fast enough"
Neji says this while spinning in the panel but gets hit by a Mokuton stick.
>You tell me he stopped rotation because he can't spin. Rofl
Sick logic, you can go ahead and keep making up your own manga but I'm pretty bored arguing with you at this point. Obviously, we can't see chakra in the background of the panel I'm referring to because this isn't a color manga, Kaiten is white in color, the background is white, and those marks are like the ones which appear on Kaiten. Keep crying abut Uchiha's being stubborn when you're outright denying manga fact here buddy.
 

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Kaiten is white Now? I could of swore it is Blue like all standard chakra.

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Plus the fact Kaiten never ever ever shows any form of loose chakra since it is a perfectly compressed chakra dome.
 

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You heard it here first peeps. Since the black and white manga panel's background is not blue we know it wasn't Kaiten.
No dumb ass Every instance when rotation is used the hyuga using it is blurred because of the chakra not being clear like you suggest it to be. Manga fact! I'll break it down for you even further to a Pre-K level:

If anything on this planet (ball, human, bottle etc) Cannot spin fast enough what happens to the momentum?

A. Keeps spinning infinitely but gets slower.
B. Eventually stops because of the lost momentum it had when first spin'ed at full velocity (speed and force).
C. Keeps spinning but slows down then pick up speed then slow down to just keep picking up speed.

It's fact Rotation had ceased since he couldn't spin anymore.

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When rotation is used only a blur is showed because of the thick chakra being condensed. You can literally see the wind spin along the Chakra compressed dome as well. Only a Blind Baby would ignore manga facts! Your interpretation of the manga is quite sad, but makes sense. Show in the manga when Rotation was used and teh inside was hollow. Common sense would tell you his hair would be Whipped around his neck if he were still spinning based on Life facts. Have you ever seen a long hair person turn there head fast in an opposite direction? What happens to the hair?

A. Does it turn with the head and whips across the body?
B. Stay still
C. Fall off the persons head from the roots?
 
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