Edo Madara vs DSM Kabuto

[Unorthodox]

Manda II is a good counter for Mokuryu and Flower World. It lets him elevate himself above the pollen and Mokuryu can't overpower it. Hakugeki is useless, I can agree to that.

Though I forgot about his 25 Susanoo clones. I'll agree that he wins.

Meteors vs Manda 2 ?

 

[KidGamer65]

Meteors vs Manda 2 ?

:lol

Totally forgot about his Meteors. They kill Manda II. Madara mid diffs at best.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Meteors vs Manda 2 ?

Meteors is going to kill Madara, which you restrict regeneration

Plus the fact they can bury themselves under neath. Metors is helping capture Madara even faster.

 

[Draegod]

Lol kabuto can also use shadow clones. Susannoo clones are all offed by the mass of manda 2 alone. Meteors are avoided no diff via going under ground and this it kills madara since he has no counter to his own meteors. Using white rage multiple times makes susannoo straight useless with the added bonus of kimmi's bones and merging with them all over the place this is in kabutos favor 9/10 times.

 

[Beans2]

Madara probably stomps, but Kabuto might be able to push him to low diff.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Madara probably stomps, but Kabuto might be able to push him to low diff.

And your point of repeating your opinion is because? To sound convincing? Lol thanks for sharing a useless opinion

 

[Beans2]

And your point of repeating your opinion is because? To sound convincing? Lol thanks for sharing a useless opinion

Didn't repeat my opinion. Gave the difficulty. Anyway I don't want to argue with you because we already done this.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Didn't repeat my opinion. Gave the difficulty. Anyway I don't want to argue with you because we already done this.

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1.You went from stomp to low diff. Both are difficulty.
2. Except we didnt argue under these condition. You end it because we both werent under the same page of Susanoo forms.
3. Your premise is solely based on the Susanoo form, which is restricted here.

 

[Unorthodox]

Didn't repeat my opinion. Gave the difficulty. Anyway I don't want to argue with you because we already done this.

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except you lost in that debate lol. Kidgamer had to take over though beans?

Meteors is going to kill Madara, which you restrict regeneration

Plus the fact they can bury themselves under neath. Metors is helping capture Madara even faster.

Mayfly helps Madara counters meteors.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Manda II is a good counter for Mokuryu and Flower World. It lets him elevate himself above the pollen and Mokuryu can't overpower it. Hakugeki is useless, I can agree to that.

Though I forgot about his 25 Susanoo clones. I'll agree that he wins.

Why wouldn't Mokuryu be able to overpower it? Binding Naruto's avatar is enough of a feat for Manda 2 to get wrecked

 

[Draegod]

Why wouldn't Mokuryu be able to overpower it? Binding Naruto's avatar is enough of a feat for Manda 2 to get wrecked

It didn't Bind Naruto's Avatar through over powering it, it was absorbing his chakra. Not the same nor close to overpowering something. Kyubi and other Bijuu's entire body is about the size of Manda 2's head... Let that sink in on how big he is... manda 2 shits on Wood dragon considering Manda one with his tail alone was able to send Bunta Flying no diff (Bijuu sized Bunta btw), And Bunta was able to match and over power a large heavy Shukaku (bijuu) with just his arm/upper strength (never mind Bunta's entire body mass). So Manda One has enough power to send a Bijuu flying and ManDa 2 whos is 3 times as big Decimates all Bijuu in the strength department with is mass alone, never mind the binding power.

Manda2>>>>>>>>>>>>Mokyryu no diff!

 

[LuckyMan]

Why wouldn't Mokuryu be able to overpower it? Binding Naruto's avatar is enough of a feat for Manda 2 to get wrecked

I have to agree with Draegod.

Gyuki fits comfortably in the buildings on Turtle Island. Those building are so small compare to the mountains and trees towering over them. You actually can't see any buildings from above, just mountains and trees. Manda II is at least this things size in length and has the width to coil around its neck and actually hurt it by constricting.

In terms of size, Manda II »»»»»» Bijuu

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Mayfly helps Madara counters meteors.

Im sure Mayfly is a unique move for Zetsu. He can use hiding in a surface. So thats not helping. Even then Meteors is completely countered reguardless

 

[Kagustuchi]

I'll concede on the size argument, but Naruto's avatar is still far stronger pysically than Manda 2.

 

[Draegod]

I'll concede on the size argument, but Naruto's avatar is still far stronger pysically than Manda 2.

Based off what? Because he is the Kyubi? Not good enough. He doesn't have any feats nor hype to suggest it's strength is greater then the mass of Manda 2 Considering Manga 2 is at 10 times the weight of 100 % Kyubi never mind 50%.

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Imagine a Tail 3 times bigger and stronger.. The Kyubi 100%

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, Manda 2 Over powers and and every Bijuu ever shown no discussion bro. lol

 

[Kagustuchi]

Based off what? Because he is the Kyubi? Not good enough. He doesn't have any feats nor hype to suggest it's strength is greater then the mass of Manda 2 Considering Manga 2 is at 10 times the weight of 100 % Kyubi never mind 50%.

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Imagine a Tail 3 times bigger and stronger.. The Kyubi 100%

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, Manda 2 Over powers and and every Bijuu ever shown no discussion bro. lol

I'm on a phone, so I can't provide the scans atm. Though sending a summon flying inst that great of a feat. Nauto in SM hurled one, Goku spun Gyuuki around his head by a tail and hurled him, Gyuuki ***** smack Gobi a very long distance.

Naruto's avatar has actually done more than that.

- It matches Sasuke's PS in strength which is a Moutain + cutter.
- Was able to entrench it self against the Juubi's Bijudama
- Manhandled and tossed around all these said Bijuu. Even knocking 6 of them back at once, and restraining all of them at once via tails.

 

[Draegod]

I'm on a phone, so I can't provide the scans atm. Though sending a summon flying inst that great of a feat. Nauto in SM hurled one, Goku spun Gyuuki around his head by a tail and hurled him, Gyuuki ***** smack Gobi a very long distance.

Naruto's avatar has actually done more than that.

- It matches Sasuke's PS in strength which is a Moutain + cutter.
- Was able to entrench it self against the Juubi's Bijudama
- Manhandled and tossed around all these said Bijuu. Even knocking 6 of them back at once, and restraining all of them at once via tails.

No; Naruto with Rikudo Power and Sasuke with Rikudo power matched each other in strength. By default Your post went down hill by bringing them up.
Manda 2's body alone can Crush mountains so whats your point in PS cutting mountains and not destroying them?
It tanked an attack. That doesn't go towards strength nor does it make you strong. Manda 1 Survived a Village explosion before dying minutes later, doesn't go towards his strength though.
He slung the 6 tails (which wasn't the heaviest nor compares to Shukaku's body mass of pure sand). And choked and held there necks not overpowered 5 Bijuu that were already weakened. Again that doesn't go towards his strength. And even then The Kyubi's Claws wrecked Hashirama's Wood dragon, the tails are much stronger then the smaller claws, you just proved my point even further how the Wood dragon gets rapped!

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, which is 100 Times smaller then Manda 2s body Diameter. Manda 2 flexes and obliterates Mokyryu instantly! And again Kyubi had no problems with Mokyryu once no chakra was leaking like BM avatar shows.

Manda 1 has enough power in the tip of his Tail to send a Bijuu sized beast flying! Manda 2 who has a extremely bigger tail Severely injures a Standard Bijuu with the tip of the tail connects, never mind the entire tail. Mokyryu gets destroyed no diff it isn't even a question.

 

[Curse Mark]

Manga 2 is at 10 times the weight of 100 % Kyubi never mind 50%.

Where are you getting this information?

 

[Draegod]

Where are you getting this information?

Guesstimates. 100% kyubi was crushed by buntas mass, bunta and manda are roughly the same mass with manda having more do to length and body structure of snakes and toads, manda two is 3-4 times bigger then manda and atleast takes 10 buntas I'm a row to equal manda 2 in length. You do the math off these basic info

 

[Eng nawashi]

Based off what? Because he is the Kyubi? Not good enough. He doesn't have any feats nor hype to suggest it's strength is greater then the mass of Manda 2 Considering Manga 2 is at 10 times the weight of 100 % Kyubi never mind 50%.

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Imagine a Tail 3 times bigger and stronger.. The Kyubi 100%

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, Manda 2 Over powers and and every Bijuu ever shown no discussion bro. lol

Manda didn't send him flying. What happened is that Manda threw the sword at Bunta ,so Bunta evaded by jumping a side .