Jinton vs Chakra absorbers

[Ripple Hole]

caught one?

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Made of entirely massless ethereal chakra:

Spoiler

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That's the scan where he catches it.
It's matter, so has a form.

 

[Curse Mark]

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That's the scan where he catches it.
It's matter, so has a form.

Your "trolling" isn't really that funny..

 

[Ripple Hole]

Your "trolling" isn't really that funny..

This isn't trolling.
aww****.. misread what he wrote. ;-; :/

Anyways I dont troll I just say anything that opposes what someone
else says regardless of how ridiculous and go with it.

 

[RedRobin]

Doubt it, it's explicitly referred to as a weapon without form on tonnes of occasions and the context of the first spoiler's image makes it pretty obvious that it's changing its characteristics whilst having no physical form. Wouldn't make any sense if it had form when it's a spirit weapon. Plus, Zetsu states it's supernatural meaning it's beyond the laws of physics. So I definitely don't see any reason to believe it has a form. It's basically aura but with the ability to deflect things. It definitely looks like aura, plus Totsuka also looks just like the aura and it's splashing aura everywhere (although Totsuka can be physical and non-physical, most likely) ;

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In addition to the fact that it instantly changes it's properties to null any attack. In other words, Jinton is laughed it.

Oh interesting I never saw the properties part. Makes it seem less hype-like now and more believable.

But what properties would it take to stop jinton? As far as we have seen nothing has stopped jinton.

 

[Curse Mark]

As far as we have seen nothing has stopped jinton.

Preta absorbed it.

 

[RedRobin]

Preta absorbed it.

Aside from that. I mean nothing has shown to be able to withstand jinton.

 

[Curse Mark]

Aside from that. I mean nothing has shown to be able to withstand jinton.

Gotcha. Nothing had blocked it.

 

[Apêx1]

Oh interesting I never saw the properties part. Makes it seem less hype-like now and more believable.

But what properties would it take to stop jinton? As far as we have seen nothing has stopped jinton.

TBH, I actually have no idea what the properties would be or how exactly Yata works when it changes its properties. Seems like a mystery to me regardless of how much I look into it. Jinton has blocked Jinton, but I'm not sure what Yata would do.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Only Preta and Possibly Yata can defend.

Preta Makes a Barrier that no chakra can pass through.

Yata may be able to change itself on atomic levels.

However, there is a limit to the damage Hinton can do otherwise Onoki would be a planet buster

 

[super yang]

However, there is a limit to the damage Hinton can do otherwise Onoki would be a planet buster

the limit is shown to be the AoE of his attack.

if he makes a 100 meter beam then he destroys 100 metres of matter. the same if he makes a 5-story tall cube.

hes not a planet-buster because he can't make a beam that crosses both magnbetic poles or cover the entire planet in a cube jin'ton

 

[RedRobin]

TBH, I actually have no idea what the properties would be or how exactly Yata works when it changes its properties. Seems like a mystery to me regardless of how much I look into it. Jinton has blocked Jinton, but I'm not sure what Yata would do.

Well here is the thing If you are going to use yata hype You at least have to explain what properties it would take to counter an attack. You cant just say it does because it does, thats really all hype.

What if Jinton vaporizes everything like we have seen it do. Then there are no proprties yata can use to defend against it.

Ok smart but as we have see some jinton vs jinton it creates one big explosion which itachi would get caught in being right there.

 

[Apêx1]

Well here is the thing If you are going to use yata hype You at least have to explain what properties it would take to counter an attack. You cant just say it does because it does, thats really all hype.

What if Jinton vaporizes everything like we have seen it do. Then there are no proprties yata can use to defend against it.

Ok smart but as we have see some jinton vs jinton it creates one big explosion which itachi would get caught in being right there.

It changes any of its properties to make any attack ineffective, and since it lacks a physical form there should be no molecules to break down. We don't know what properties Yata takes on but whatever they are they are always changed in terms of making the incoming attack ineffective. How it will do that is beyond me when we don't know what makes Jinton ineffective, but we've seen Jinton be stopped by another Jinton so at the very least Yata taking on similar properties would allow it to force stop the Jinton. Th big explosion would be protected against by continuously maintaining those properties. It's basically pushing away the Jinton while the Jinton is pushing back. At least that's how I see it, but a lot of people have differing opinions about Yata so I'm not trying to pass this as fact.

 

[Beans2]

It changes any of its properties to make any attack ineffective, and since it lacks a physical form there should be no molecules to break down. We don't know what properties Yata takes on but whatever they are they are always changed in terms of making the incoming attack ineffective. How it will do that is beyond me when we don't know what makes Jinton ineffective, but we've seen Jinton be stopped by another Jinton so at the very least Yata taking on similar properties would allow it to force stop the Jinton. Th big explosion would be protected against by continuously maintaining those properties. It's basically pushing away the Jinton while the Jinton is pushing back. At least that's how I see it, but a lot of people have differing opinions about Yata so I'm not trying to pass this as fact.

What about Air palm vs Jinton?

 

[Apêx1]

What about Air palm vs Jinton?

Air Palm is merely small molecules in a mixture. Jinton disintegrates things at a molecular level so something that isn't composed of multiple molecules/a compound should be unaffected by how Jinton works. So it cannot destroy Air Palm since Air palm is merely air moving so fast that it compresses, and air is a mixture of small molecules rather than a compound. Unless I'm missing something, but I'm pretty sure Jinton should have no effect on mere air, it's not a compound after all. Although I have no idea what would happen if they collide.

 

[EZQ]

Air Palm is merely small molecules in a mixture. Jinton disintegrates things at a molecular level so something that isn't composed of multiple molecules/a compound should be unaffected by how Jinton works. So it cannot destroy Air Palm since Air palm is merely air moving so fast that it compresses, and air is a mixture of small molecules rather than a compound. Unless I'm missing something, but I'm pretty sure Jinton should have no effect on mere air, it's not a compound after all. Although I have no idea what would happen if they collide.

I think that if jinton collides with air palm, air palm loses the acceleration it had, thus the strenght of the attack is lost too.

Force= Acc x Mass

Compressed air has mass (if air didn't have mass then it wouldn't generate pressure when compressed) so i believe that if jinton dimantles compresed O2 back to it's original form, the mass is dispersed thus the force is rezised.

 

[Apêx1]

I think that if jinton collides with air palm, air palm loses the acceleration it had, thus the strenght of the attack is lost too.

Force= Acc x Mass

Compressed air has mass (if air didn't have mass then it wouldn't generate pressure when compressed) so i believe that if jinton dimantles compresed O2 back to it's original form, the mass is dispersed thus the force is rezised.

Yea can definitely with the first part, Air Palm from anyone except Hiashi would lose its momentum before it reaches the opponent if it hits Jinton first.

And Jinton doesn't disassemble things on the atomic level like you are suggesting, it can't dismantle O2 since O2 is basically 1 molecule/diatomic. Compressed O2 just means many different O2's pushing on each other faster than they can move away, similarly to how if you were to jump from 100 meters and land onto water, it would feel like concrete because the individual H20 compounds wouldn't be capable of moving away as fast as you are falling. Jinton only dismantles on the molecular level, meaning it breaks down compounds into the constituent molecules. It doesn't break down individual molecules into the constituent atoms.