Islam is the religion of peace they say

[YowYan]

At its core, it is peaceful. It's just that the desert santas and their low IQ's indoctrinate generation upon generation by reciting verses like parrots, asking Allah's forgiveness if the children dare to question anything. Same goes for christians. Any religious nut who feels he or she has a mission to spread his religion already failed at interpreting the depths of knowledge within religious cripts. And even if they don't feel that delusional sense of pride and duty, there are still outdated moral standards most go by like double standards, freedom of speech opposing 'insults', etc.

At its core, there is a lot of hidden knowledge that any who claim their status with a religion failed to grasp. In the end, religious scripts became a powerful tool to stupify, centralize and expand power. Not much difference with the nazis.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Really? That's nice. Never could have guessed you were too but that's not pronounced or predictable anyway... BTW, most of my fellow Muslims on this base are Naruto fans. Interesting...

Yup many here are. You kinda gave me a hint when you kept defending it.

 

[iKaras]

It is one. Imagine if it wasn't.

 

[BlacLord™]

Having recently moved to London, I've seen east London far away when taking trains. This little clip pisses me off to no end, how can anyone agree with islamic immigrants after this? Btw, I know if and when the people finally strike back, everyone, even the innocent muslims who had nothing to do with it will become a target. Call it the rubberband analogy, regular citizens all around Europe are being pushed to a point where they will erupt in a full on rage. The root cause of this problem however are these politicians who allow the immigrants to come in Europe in the first place, once you watch, spread it around and let people wake up, I just feel bad for the innocent who will be the true victims. A civil war is inevitable.
[video=youtube;T8fzcT7jHG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8fzcT7jHG8[/video]

Such a crap video.

Having lived in the UK, all over for my entire life, I can say that using a small group of radical supporters as a basis to judge the entire UK Muslim population is bang out of order. I'm not short of Muslim friends and I know of plenty more; none support IS. If you want to start doing that, you'll have to say that all white people advocate KKK when only looking at the people that do.

 

[Hawker]

Such a crap video.

Having lived in the UK, all over for my entire life, I can say that using a small group of radical supporters as a basis to judge the entire UK Muslim population is bang out of order. I'm not short of Muslim friends and I know of plenty more; none support IS. If you want to start doing that, you'll have to say that all white people advocate KKK when only looking at the people that do.

You're the one full of shit.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

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1/3 of muslim students in Britain think that killing in the name of religion is justified:

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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

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35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).

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Radical thinking in islam is actually commonly endorsed in the normal muslim communities. It's so called silent approval. So you are way off by basing your arguments on a few individuals.

 

[YowYan]

You're the one full of shit.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

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1/3 of muslim students in Britain think that killing in the name of religion is justified:

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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

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35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).

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Radical thinking in islam is actually commonly endorsed in the normal muslim communities. It's so called silent approval. So you are way off by basing your arguments on a few individuals.

Adding up to your post;

In my country the youth start thinking radically at a pretty young age. You can tell they've been indoctrinated with citations of the qu'ran they were not allowed to question or interpret outside the norm.

[video=youtube;0Ky2H7dr8-g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ky2H7dr8-g[/video]

I grew up between these muslim youth and although some are normal, intelligent people..they all share the views from the kids in this video.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Yes it is a religion of peace. The word 'Islam' actually translates to 'Peace'.

The thread title is misleading though, why would you mention Islam and peace then share a video of people who don't follow the teachings of Islam?

That's not what I meant. I was saying that it's crazy to me how they could follow a religion that would have them behead me and my loved ones and at the same time, chill and have fun with me, make jokes, play video games and what not.
They were my bros. Of course they weren't planning to kill me

Are you listening to yourself? You are still being very hypocritical, your friends don't follow a religion that would behead you and your loved ones, Islam doesn't condone that.

The Bible, too, encourages killing in self-defense and in defense of your family, so I can't be mad at the Quran for that.
But from what I've read and seen all over the media, if a non-Muslim refuses to convert to Islam, then we are to be put to death immediately, whether it's by chopping off our heads or any other gruesome method.

If I told you my donkey has wings would you believe me to? People are so easily lied to nowadays (including some "Muslims" hence ISIS, Islam's biggest enemies). Propaganda continues to reach new heights. Whatever sources told you that are misinformed and so are you. The @red is completely false in every sense, stop being ignorant and let go of that wrong idea. You were misinformed about something in Islam and some Muslims corrected you.

 

[King of the Heavens]

The first for are descriptions of hell but if you read carefully it is saying anyone who "disbelieves" will be there .

But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

I fail to see youre point. This is wether or not Islam is a religion of peace, clearly it is not ...



Unbelievers belong in hell ? Evil is their destination ?



Same point.



"The vilest animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelief."



Why exactly ??

The context of the Quran is with out a doubt evil. At least by today's standards.

I don’t know where it is you got your translations from but here these are the actual one’s, and next write down the whole passage and not just verses that are suited to what you want people to see. And NO it is not evil because if it was you wouldn’t be here today and the world wold have been in a much worse state then it already is.

Quran 9:73-74
O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.

Quran 8:54-56
[Theirs is] like the custom of the people of Pharaoh and of those before them. They denied the signs of their Lord, so we destroyed them for their sins, and We drowned the people of Pharaoh. And all [of them] were wrongdoers.
Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe -
The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah.
So if you, [O Muhammad], gain dominance over them in war, disperse by [means of] them those behind them that perhaps they will be reminded.
If you [have reason to] fear from a people betrayal, throw [their treaty] back to them, [putting you] on equal terms. Indeed, Allah does not like traitors.
And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape. Indeed, they will not cause failure [to Allah ].
And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

Quran 4:51-53
Have you not seen those who were given a portion of the Scripture, who believe in superstition and false objects of worship and say about the disbelievers, "These are better guided than the believers as to the way"?
Those are the ones whom Allah has cursed; and he whom Allah curses - never will you find for him a helper.
Or have they a share of dominion? Then [if that were so], they would not give the people [even as much as] the speck on a date seed.

I also posted studies. I'm not generalizing, I'm saying there's something wrong with the muslim culture based on the fact that so many justify killing innocents, discriminating gays and abusing women. It's a shameful and outdated religion that doesn't belong in modern world. Most people of islam have not yet evolved to the level of our western socities moral standards.

You are a typical example of a person who victimizes the ones in fault. ISIS consists of group of males who act on their own consent. It's their choice. Don't try to sugar coat it Bush didn't tell them to kill innocent people.

Accept that your culture is the one at fault. There's no denying it. These problems are born from islamic backrounds.

And that's or own bigoted opinion

I just proved your statement wrong in my above post. There's something wrong with Islam and muslim culture if 20-40% of muslims in Europe think that suicide bombings and killing in the name of religion are justified. Just look at the polls and studies I posted. Don't you read what is posted before you post? It's not ignorance, it's the reality of your so called "peaceful religion" !

Frankly you can show polls all you want they don't mean anything and it won't change a single thing so keep them to yourself

 

[Benjamin King]

For starters, they aren't immigrant; at least some of them. Other some are born British. And freedom of speech is guaranteed in the UK, so what they do is totally fine under British law. Your thread demonstrates your delicious tears.

 

[Hawker]

Frankly you can show polls all you want they don't mean anything and it won't change a single thing so keep them to yourself

Keep telling yourself that. Living in a fantasy is your problem, not mine.

 

[Hawker]

I can say the same about and your bigoted way of thinking

I base my arguments on factual evidence, studies and polls which ultimately have given similar results regardless of the country.

You base your agument on "gut feeling".

Now go play with pokemons, adults are talking here.

 

[King of the Heavens]

I base my arguments on factual evidence, studies and polls which ultimately have given similar results regardless of the country.

You base your agument on "gut feeling".

Now go play with pokemons, adults are talking here.

1. Daily Mail and Telegraph (or w/e) is not factual evidence idiot.

2. When did i say that?

3. Really pokemon from i can tell your 12 years go to sleep it;s past your bed time.

and from what I've read of your previous posts your far from being an adult.

 

[Hawker]

1. Daily Mail and Telegraph (or w/e) is not factual evidence idiot.

2. When did i say that?

3. Really pokemon from i can tell your 12 years go to sleep it;s past your bed time.

and from what I've read of your previous posts your far from being an adult.

And, you missed the actual sources that matter, such as: Study from Pew Research, NOP research, Centre for Social Cohesion, ICM etc. The ones you mention are the papers that published them. Not the actual companies that did the researches. But it's not a surprise you confused those. LOL.

 

[King of the Heavens]

And like the imbecile that you are, you missed the actual sources that matter, such as: Study from Pew Research, NOP research, Centre for Social Cohesion, ICM etc. The ones you mention are the papers that published them. Not the actual companies that did the researches. But it's not a surprise you confused those. LOL.

LOL all you like unless these companies your fond of ask every single living Muslims or the majority of them across the world then their research is BS

 

[Hawker]

Adding up to your post;

In my country the youth start thinking radically at a pretty young age. You can tell they've been indoctrinated with citations of the qu'ran they were not allowed to question or interpret outside the norm.

[video=youtube;0Ky2H7dr8-g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ky2H7dr8-g[/video]

I grew up between these muslim youth and although some are normal, intelligent people..they all share the views from the kids in this video.

That is troubling indeed. That video and the studies I posted also go against the argument that muslim fundamentalist and sharia law supporters are only born from war and conflict. It's truly frightening that young muslims born in the modern world countries in peaceful enviroments believe in those kind of values. It tells us again that there's something wrong with the culture itself and the religion.

Although I believe that in about 200 years islam and it's people will develop to a more civilized level, but at this point their culture is far behind in progress compared to western cultures. And there's not much we can do about it.

 

[nefraiko]

the prophet lived for years and years with the bilievers while the other non believer arabs were making them all kinds of offense
they insulted them, they throwed stones...

but their was a time after that where the non believer arabs in mecca (not christian, not jews) began killing and they tried many times to kill the prophet, what was he and the believers supposed to do ? god made it clear in the Quran that what happened with Jesus will not happen with Mohammad, and he made it clear that the muslims have to be tested, he will not go to their help directly, they had to defend themselves by their own, and hope for god's bless and help, that's what faith is, those are the war verses you always quote

but even so, the muslims were told to do it in a non barbaric way, the land should be preserved (ecosystem) and the prisoners should be well treated, and the other religions should be respected.

but some muslim monkeys don't get that, just like you don't, exept they are muslims, so they are supposed to know, that's why they are stupid, terrorists

 

[Zlad]

Actually buddhism is the religion of peace they say

 

[Yubel]

I notice most of the muslims in this thread are straight up denying everything with no reasoning.
Just trying to distract you from it, what the hell does it matter if the definition says peace? A wise man once said: Look at a persons actions, there is everything you need to know about a person. The fact is everyone is full of shit, they will say whatever it is you want to hear and is convenient for them but their actions don't lie if you just observe it.

 

[Hawker]

LOL all you like unless these companies your fond of ask every single living Muslims or the majority of them across the world then their research is BS

Tell that to Susie from Britain who is living near muslim ghetto and nearly half of the muslims of that ghetto want to cover her from head to toe in veil.

Tell that to Tom, a homosexual in Germany, who 1/2 muslim in his country want to stone and persecute.

Tell that to Jean in France, where nearly half of the muslim youth population think that suicide bombings are justified.

Tell that to Valeria in Spain where 1/4 of the muslims there believe that suicide bombings are justified.

No you don't think it like that. You will find every possible excuse possible to belittle these problems. You say there's nothing wrong with islam and these studies are bs, but real muslims said those things. They are real. Accept it you ignorant fool.


And guess what? I have a survey that covers up majority of muslims:

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Once again Pew research concluded that over a billion muslims want sharia law. Sharia law is discriminating, violent, totalitarian and a horrible excuse for a law. This is a real problem.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I notice most of the muslims in this thread are straight up denying everything with no reasoning.
Just trying to distract you from it, what the hell does it matter if the definition says peace? A wise man once said: Look at a persons actions, there is everything you need to know about a person. The fact is everyone is full of shit, they will say whatever it is you want to hear and is convenient for them but their actions don't lie if you just observe it.

But what do you get from generalizing all the muslims as just the same? Wouldn't it be wiser to believe there is a bad apple in every walk of life?