Is it racist If I Refuse To Date Other Races? How do i tell this black girl so?

[MickNerks]

I am not a racist, i have black friends. However i don't like race mixing and prefer to stick to my own race. How is that wrong?

You do realize that race isn't a real thing....

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[Megax Rocker7]

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[random girlz]

Just tell'er you ain't interested

 

[Troyg39]

Name me one black girl that isn't any darker than a white girl. Name me a black girl that has natural straight hair, I will be waiting. Either way, that's hardly the point, the point is that all races have their own set of traits, otherwise races wouldn't be distinguishable at all. Do tell me, if all races had no common aesthetic traits, how would you even identify a member of a racial group? By their smell? Please don't be silly.

I'm sorry I was gonna let this go but I see after this post something was lost on you. The subject in general was about OP not liking to mix races. Which includes all races. I think the fact the example involved a black girl is somehow messing you up bro. I think that's why you keep contradicting yourself.

Addressing the bold. A lot of racially ignorant comments come about because of people thinking that something being "common" within a group means that every person in that group has to have those traits. We're talking about thousands of years of racial mixing that have placed those "commonalities" among certain races in other races dna as well, even if it doesn't show up as frequent is some. To answer your "silly" request of naming one black girl who is lighter than a white girl, I won't bother posting anything for two reasons. One Albino black people exist with skin paler than a lot of white people. Two, Italians are also white people (3rd or 4th largest caucasian group can't remember) and a lot of them have darker skin than some black people with really light skin. But as you, either way it was hardly the point.

When have I even mentioned a lack of variation of skin colour among caucasians?

When you implied it when you said this

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all black girls have dark skin (well, some have relatively light skin, but still not lighter than whites),

You corrected your first comment with the underlined comment, then you used the bold to imply that there isn't a light skin black person with skin lighter than any white person, which is false (explained above). Black people generally have darker skin than white people. That's the point you were making (just to show you I understand what you're trying to say) but that's not what you're saying. Your comments are riddled with contradictions like this. "Black people generally have darker skin" (your point) and "All black girls have skin darker than whites" (your comment) aren't one and the same bro.

All I set is that there is a set of common traits among members of all races, that is not to say that they all have the same exact skin colour, but they only vary to a limited extent. Ex: a white person can't have dark brown skin, a black person can't have white skin, etc.

Google Melungeons. There have been fascinating studies on them. It'll shed light on your "a white person can't have dark skin" comment. And yes, commonly speaking the variations are limited. That's not the same thing as "all black people are limited to dark skin". Again, your point vs what you are actually saying.

All races have a certain "pattern", otherwise there would be no telling who's a member of a racial group and who isn't, they all have a few standard traits, of course, they vary, but they're still restricted to a certain amount of traits, those traits could all be traits the OP finds unattractive. So no, the bold does not exist.

No race is limited to a certain amount of traits. You can find any trait in any race, it just may not be as common. Go to West Africa and you'll have a chance of finding a blonde haired, blue eyed black person, even with facial structures uncommon to black people. Some even with straight hair. Definitely won't be common, but proving there isn't a set amount of traits that anyone is restricted from having purely because of their ethnic group. Either way you try to spin it, common =/= absolute bro.

And bro you fraud for that underline. Stop speaking for OP. He already said that he found the girl cute, specifically for a black girl, in a comment earlier, which throws all the shit you saying out the window anyway. It has nothing to do with him finding black girls unattractive because of their physical traits, as he clearly found a black girl's physical traits attractive. Even if he didn't like the general traits he finds "common" among black people, it is still those common traits that he doesn't like, not black people as a whole, which would include even black people, like the girl he was attracted to, who don't have enough of those common traits for him to deem unattractive. But when he says "I don't date outside my race", the focal point shifts away from the traits and onto the simple group as a whole for no reason other than them being associated with that group.

You trying to sell this stuff about him not being attracted to black people based on their characteristics contradicts OPs own words And it wasn't even about just black people, it was about not mixing races as a whole. So you saying he isn't attracted to the physical traits of any race not considered white? He already debunked that. I'm started to feel like you saw him mention a black chick and just started typing

How does this make any type of logical sense? Races are defined by certain aesthetic characteristics anyway, so how can he referring to the race itself and not their physical traits when those are both essentially the same thing?

Because there isn't a single physical trait that can only be attributed to one race. Already explained above. If he didn't like black people because of the traits "we all share" according to your ass, he wouldn't have found that BLACK girl attractive in the first place. No, he doesn't want to date her because as he said, he thinks mixing races is wrong. Not because he isn't attracted to her physical traits, but just simply because the idea of interracial dating bothers him.

In other words he would turn down a girl who he's physically attracted to simply because of the fact they aren't from the same race.
It's not because of his preferences for white people. If he were mexican, he'd only **** mexicans. If he were black, only blacks, etc. That's what it means to only date within whatever race yours happens to be. Despite everything you said, OP never really mentioned any characteristics he finds attractive. That's because it was never about that, the only reason "preferences" came into the picture is because people were trying to distinguish his actual feelings from what he was saying. And then you came in and I don't know what the ****

How do you expect me to take you seriously when you're comparing.refusing to mating with someone of another race, and since *** relies almost solely on physical attraction, so the aforementioned characteristics are a HUGE factor; to refusing to serve a client because of their race, and since aesthetic traits have nothing to do with serving someone, of course it's gonna be considered racism, since lack of attraction for a trait is hardly relevant when we're talking about serving someone.

Forgive the typos, it's a pain to write all this on my phone.

Bro pause at the bold real quick. This is the internet dude. You really don't have to take me or anyone up here seriously. We're not having an official debate, just a discussion on an online forum. It's not that serious either way so I don't what to tell you. As far as my comparison, yea it was a bit awkward I said that earlier to someone else. I figured it would be easier for you to grasp the point honestly, which the point was made as someone pointed out that the analogy was kind of rough but they still understood me. Preferring (or not preferring) common factors within a group isn't the same thing as refusing to engage anyone from a group based on factors that not all of them share.

Like refusing to serve a black customer because black people are commonly in the news for armed robberies. Having the stereotype isn't the problem (we all have those), letting the stereotype determine how you act with the ENTIRE group is. Refusing to date anyone outside of your race, even those you find attractive(i.e. fit your "preferences"), simply because they aren't from your race, is kind of racist. And that's ok. Lot's of people don't like to mix races. They're not hurting anyone. But that doesn't make it any less racist. Hell we're all racist to some degree.

But either way all the stuff about "physical attraction" being relevant, really isn't relevant in this case since OP said she was cute. So there really isn't anything else to say. I've already repeated myself like 8 times lol

 

[BanGinji]

well said but this guy really isn't worth responding to. not saying he's an idiot, he just doesn't know what he's talking about in regards this topic.

 

[Troyg39]

well said but this guy really isn't worth responding to. not saying he's an idiot, he just doesn't know what he's talking about in regards this topic.

Ok so it's not just me then! Honestly I just happened to wake up and see his post this morning so I just started responding as I was reading but shit man I should've read the whole thing first. I thought he was going somewhere early on but......man

 

[Worm]

Ugh, just lost my whole post, will edit this one in a bit with my reply.

The subject in general was about OP not liking to mix races.

The initial subject was "is it racist to refuse a girl just because she is black?", and that's what I've been replying to. I do not know his reasoning behind not wanting to mix races, nor do I know if he that was his sole reason for refusing the girl, all my points were speaking in general, that it's okay to not want to mate with a girl simply because of her racial background, and it's not necessarily racist.

Addressing the bold. A lot of racially ignorant comments come about because of people thinking that something being "common" within a group means that every person in that group has to have those traits. We're talking about thousands of years of racial mixing that have placed those "commonalities" among certain races in other races dna as well, even if it doesn't show up as frequent is some.

I never said that members within a racial group share the same exact trait with each other, but they are still limited to certain traits. For example, there is no black girl with white skin and straight hair, so they are restricted to a certain amount of traits. That applies to all races, which is why they're considered different races in the first place. And do answer me (since you've been dodging the question for some time now), how do you identify a black/white/chinese person in the middle of the street?

To answer your "silly" request of naming one black girl who is lighter than a white girl, I won't bother posting anything for two reasons. One Albino black people exist with skin paler than a lot of white people.

Albinism is a disease, not a characteristic that can be attributed to any race, since it's not common and is an anomaly, but it's also not restricted to humans, or even mamals, since even freaking reptiles can be albino.

. Two, Italians are also white people (3rd or 4th largest caucasian group can't remember) and a lot of them have darker skin than some black people with really light skin. But as you, either way it was hardly the point.

1- not all italians are white
2- caucasian doesn't necessarily equal white, hispanics and arabs are caucasian, and yet they're mostly considered separate races.
3- show me one white italian darker than a black person (mixed blacks don't count).

When you implied it when you said this

No idea how you came to the conclusion that saying that black people are darker than whites means that there is absolutely no variation within among white people.

You corrected your first comment with the underlined comment, then you used the bold to imply that there isn't a light skin black person with skin lighter than any white person, which is false (explained above). Black people generally have darker skin than white people. That's the point you were making (just to show you I understand what you're trying to say) but that's not what you're saying. Your comments are riddled with contradictions like this. "Black people generally have darker skin" (your point) and "All black girls have skin darker than whites" (your comment) aren't one and the same bro.

I didn’t correct anything, because there's nothing incorrect there in the first place, dark is a vague adjective, there is no such colour named "dark", what's perceived as dark and what isn't varies a lot, I said there light skinned black people compared to some blacks, hence the use of the word "relatively". I didn’t imply anything, I outright stated it. You have provided 0 evidence to support your assertion, so your statement remains void.

Google Melungeons. There have been fascinating studies on them. It'll shed light on your "a white person can't have dark skin" comment.

I suggest you take your own advice, because those are a mix of at least three races, they aren't white or black.

And yes, commonly speaking the variations are limited. That's not the same thing as "all black people are limited to dark skin". Again, your point vs what you are actually saying.

I'm not saying they're restricted to one skin tone, but a perfectly healthy black person without being a mix of any other races have a limit to how light they are, you'll never find one that is as light as a native northern european, for example.

No race is limited to a certain amount of traits. You can find any trait in any race, it just may not be as common.

All race members have at least one of the common traits of their race, otherwise there would be no way to classify them as a member of that racial group, and that's the sole reason on why you can identify a member of a race in the middle of the street with ease. Even the skull shape and bone complexity of negroid race members are different from a member of a caucasoid race member's. P.S.: I'm not saying they only have the traits all blacks have, I'm saying that they all have some traits in common with each other, but of course everyone has their own physical traits aside from those they have in common with other members of their race.

Go to West Africa and you'll have a chance of finding a blonde haired, blue eyed black person, even with facial structures uncommon to black people. Some even with straight hair. Definitely won't be common, but proving there isn't a set amount of traits that anyone is restricted from having purely because of their ethnic group. Either way you try to spin it, common =/= absolute bro.

Blonde and blue eyed while rare isn't outside the possibilities, I've met some myself. Straight hair is impossible for black people, even if mixed with someone with straight hair, unless you're including indians in "black people", which is hardly what I'm referring to. And it's also impossible to have facial structures that generally do not exist among black people unless they're mixed.

And bro you fraud for that underline. Stop speaking for OP. He already said that he found the girl cute, specifically for a black girl, in a comment earlier, which throws all the shit you saying out the window anyway. It has nothing to do with him finding black girls unattractive because of their physical traits, as he clearly found a black girl's physical traits attractive.

Key word: could. Could = possibility or hypothesis, I was replying to the question in the title. I didn’t notice his mention of race mixing until after I had posted in the thread. Finding her cute for a black girl could just mean that her overall good looks eclipse whatever racial traits of her he might see as a minus. And how can you suggest he likes the traits that all blacks are subject to and not the ones unique to the girl?

You trying to sell this stuff about him not being attracted to black people based on their characteristics contradicts OPs own words And it wasn't even about just black people, it was about not mixing races as a whole. So you saying he isn't attracted to the physical traits of any race not considered white? He already debunked that. I'm started to feel like you saw him mention a black chick and just started typing

Read above.

Because there isn't a single physical trait that can only be attributed to one race

There's a reason black people's hair is called "afro-textured", afro = african, what race is considered African-american again?

If he didn't like black people because of the traits "we all share" according to your ass, he wouldn't have found that BLACK girl attractive in the first place. No, he doesn't want to date her because as he said, he thinks mixing races is wrong. Not because he isn't attracted to her physical traits, but just simply because the idea of interracial dating bothers him.

In other words he would turn down a girl who he's physically attracted to simply because of the fact they aren't from the same race.
It's not because of his preferences for white people. If he were mexican, he'd only **** mexicans. If he were black, only blacks, etc. That's what it means to only date within whatever race yours happens to be. Despite everything you said, OP never really mentioned any characteristics he finds attractive. That's because it was never about that, the only reason "preferences" came into the picture is because people were trying to distinguish his actual feelings from what he was saying. And then you came in and I don't know what the ****

1-read above
2-I was both assuming since I missed his racial mixing comment, and stating why it's okay for anyone to refuse any black girl (or any race for that matter) with no exceptions, without being considered racist (which is the topic's main question).

Bro pause at the bold real quick. This is the internet dude. You really don't have to take me or anyone up here seriously. We're not having an official debate, just a discussion on an online forum. It's not that serious either way so I don't what to tell you.

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This section is meant for discussionon serious topics, and you clearly have a very weird definition of the word "seriously", since it can also be the opposite of "jokingly", which is what I'm referring to, being on the internet (or anywhere for that matter) doesn't change that.

s far as my comparison, yea it was a bit awkward I said that earlier to someone else. I figured it would be easier for you to grasp the point honestly, which the point was made as someone pointed out that the analogy was kind of rough but they still understood me. Preferring (or not preferring) common factors within a group isn't the same thing as refusing to engage anyone from a group based on factors that not all of them share.

Like refusing to serve a black customer because black people are commonly in the news for armed robberies. Having the stereotype isn't the problem (we all have those), letting the stereotype determine how you act with the ENTIRE group is. Refusing to date anyone outside of your race, even those you find attractive(i.e. fit your "preferences"), simply because they aren't from your race, is kind of racist. And that's ok. Lot's of people don't like to mix races. They're not hurting anyone. But that doesn't make it any less racist. Hell we're all racist to some degree.

I do get what you're trying to say, I just addressed your analogy because your reasoning could be debunked with the physical attraction one, although it seems the OP reasoning behind it is that he doesn't like race mixing (don't know if it's the sole reason), so you do have a point here.

well said but this guy really isn't worth responding to. not saying he's an idiot, he just doesn't know what he's talking about in regards this topic

Don't bother. You lost when you made that first post.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but d*ckriding is not a transportation method, it won't get you anywhere.

Now go take a walk, Hurensöhne.

 

[Multiply]

Ugh, just lost my whole post, will edit this one in a bit with my reply.

Don't bother. You lost when you made that first post.

 

[SoundBar]

If you don't date outside your race for the simple fact that it's not your race, then you're racist. It's not an openly racist thing, but a passive racist trait most people have. Sorry, but you're racist smh

 

[Pride]

If you don't date outside your race for the simple fact that it's not your race, then you're racist. It's not an openly racist thing, but a passive racist trait most people have. Sorry, but you're racist smh

What is so wrong in wanting to keep to your race? I dont look down on black women or men or see them as any less capable or inferior i am just not interested into race mixing. The girl is very attractive for a black person but i rather date within my own color.

 

[SoundBar]

What is so wrong in wanting to keep to your race? I dont look down on black women or men or see them as any less capable or inferior i am just not interested into race mixing. The girl is very attractive for a black person but i rather date within my own color.

Nothing I guess...like I said, it's a passive trait most people don't even think about b/c you grew up a certain way, hold certain ideas etc. Racism has a negative stigma, but there are more subtle forms that almost everyone has, you are racist, it's ok.

 

[Funky Tiger]

"You're fat."

 

[that guy over there]

this is the smartest thing anyone has said here,thank you so much
the dude even said the girl is pretty for a black girl like that doesnt happen very often

 

[Troyg39]

The initial subject was "is it racist to refuse a girl just because she is black?"

The title reads "Is it racist If I Refuse To Date Other Races? How do I tell his black girl"

He wanted to know how to tell a black girl he doesn't date other races, not if it was racist to refuse a black girl just because she was black.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

I am not racist, if you check my previous posts on this thread you would see that im even admitted that she was very beautiful for a girl of color or black girl, whichever term you prefer. However, its just not my thing i am not into that, i don't like race mixing and i believe its wrong. She is still my friend and nothing will change that and i don't look down on her. So how am i racist for having a personal preference?

"for a colored girl" is inherently racist. I understand you don't mean to be, but you were obviously conditioned to be this way.

You can not want to race mix, but thinking it is wrong is bigotry, and simplistic, and it implies you feel a certain way about your race that you don't want "tainted".

Not to be rude, but it seems like you're a racist who was brought up around racists, but has learned to stifle it. When I say racist, I don't mean you have the urge to spit on black people, but, you seem to look down upon them.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Ugh, just lost my whole post, will edit this one in a bit with my reply.


The initial subject was "is it racist to refuse a girl just because she is black?", and that's what I've been replying to. I do not know his reasoning behind not wanting to mix races, nor do I know if he that was his sole reason for refusing the girl, all my points were speaking in general, that it's okay to not want to mate with a girl simply because of her racial background, and it's not necessarily racist.



I never said that members within a racial group share the same exact trait with each other, but they are still limited to certain traits. For example, there is no black girl with white skin and straight hair, so they are restricted to a certain amount of traits. That applies to all races, which is why they're considered different races in the first place. And do answer me (since you've been dodging the question for some time now), how do you identify a black/white/chinese person in the middle of the street?



Albinism is a disease, not a characteristic that can be attributed to any race, since it's not common and is an anomaly, but it's also not restricted to humans, or even mamals, since even freaking reptiles can be albino.



1- not all italians are white
2- caucasian doesn't necessarily equal white, hispanics and arabs are caucasian, and yet they're mostly considered separate races.
3- show me one white italian darker than a black person (mixed blacks don't count).



No idea how you came to the conclusion that saying that black people are darker than whites means that there is absolutely no variation within among white people.



I didn’t correct anything, because there's nothing incorrect there in the first place, dark is a vague adjective, there is no such colour named "dark", what's perceived as dark and what isn't varies a lot, I said there light skinned black people compared to some blacks, hence the use of the word "relatively". I didn’t imply anything, I outright stated it. You have provided 0 evidence to support your assertion, so your statement remains void.



I suggest you take your own advice, because those are a mix of at least three races, they aren't white or black.



I'm not saying they're restricted to one skin tone, but a perfectly healthy black person without being a mix of any other races have a limit to how light they are, you'll never find one that is as light as a native northern european, for example.



All race members have at least one of the common traits of their race, otherwise there would be no way to classify them as a member of that racial group, and that's the sole reason on why you can identify a member of a race in the middle of the street with ease. Even the skull shape and bone complexity of negroid race members are different from a member of a caucasoid race member's. P.S.: I'm not saying they only have the traits all blacks have, I'm saying that they all have some traits in common with each other, but of course everyone has their own physical traits aside from those they have in common with other members of their race.



Blonde and blue eyed while rare isn't outside the possibilities, I've met some myself. Straight hair is impossible for black people, even if mixed with someone with straight hair, unless you're including indians in "black people", which is hardly what I'm referring to. And it's also impossible to have facial structures that generally do not exist among black people unless they're mixed.



Key word: could. Could = possibility or hypothesis, I was replying to the question in the title. I didn’t notice his mention of race mixing until after I had posted in the thread. Finding her cute for a black girl could just mean that her overall good looks eclipse whatever racial traits of her he might see as a minus. And how can you suggest he likes the traits that all blacks are subject to and not the ones unique to the girl?



Read above.



There's a reason black people's hair is called "afro-textured", afro = african, what race is considered African-american again?



1-read above
2-I was both assuming since I missed his racial mixing comment, and stating why it's okay for anyone to refuse any black girl (or any race for that matter) with no exceptions, without being considered racist (which is the topic's main question).



????

This section is meant for discussionon serious topics, and you clearly have a very weird definition of the word "seriously", since it can also be the opposite of "jokingly", which is what I'm referring to, being on the internet (or anywhere for that matter) doesn't change that.



I do get what you're trying to say, I just addressed your analogy because your reasoning could be debunked with the physical attraction one, although it seems the OP reasoning behind it is that he doesn't like race mixing (don't know if it's the sole reason), so you do have a point here.





I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but d*ckriding is not a transportation method, it won't get you anywhere.

Now go take a walk, Hurensöhne.

Not reading this whole thing just going to tell you where you are wrong.
As far as skin goes, Black people are found in almost every shade, regardless of mixed race or Albinism. Look it up on Google. You're making a generalization.
Two, black people can definitely have straight hair, whether it be through heated hairstyle, perm, or natural, which doesn't really matter seeing as his cited reason for not liking black girls is appearance.
Thirdly, "Attractive for A ____" is an extremely disrespectful thing to say, and is inherently offensive. It implies that that group of people can not be generally attractive, and surprised. It's rude and incorrect.
Four, you can not cite you will not date someone because of race and not be racist. "I am generally attracted to ___" versus "I will not date ____" is rude and racist. It is being closed, and assuming that no one off that race can meet your standards.
Fifth, the OP being a hell of a picker, and probably doesn't have that many choices. Don't burn your bridges there son.

This is directed at you and the OP.

 

[Ash Ketchup]

Asnwering directly the question, no, have a preference is not racist.
But refusing to date someone because of race is racism.

When some one say "oh I'm not racist, i have black/white/gay/arab/asian/whatever friends", i already know that bullshit will be said. The fact you, sir is really generous to the point to have friends of other races, don't make you superior or less bigoted. Because you think you are being special to give your friendship to another race, huh?

Also, I know gay people who are homophobe. Woman who are sexist. Black and white guys who are racist to his own race. So this justificative "oh i have friends..." is shit.

When someone is not racist, the factor race don't matter too much. Besides have own preferences and tastes, can see beauty in the others.

I must quote it because.... welll...

Playing the "black friends" card does not exempt you from being a racist, and just because you are of acquaintance to a few black people doesn't mean you are not a racist. The fact that you're generalizing an entire race of women for God knows what reason, means you are racist towards black women to a certain degree.

"I refuse to date a black person"

"I don't date Asians"

And etc.


All these mindsets derive from subconscious racist views. Whether you want to here the truth or not. I am sick of the whole race preference counter people use.

Unless you've met every single person on this planet then I don't see how you can swear off an entire group of people as possible interests. Not to mention the stupid lengths that people go to in order to make those groups feel ugly or rejected.


You don't have to date the person if you don't want to. But saying you aren't prejudice, racist or a bigot is laughable.

No it can't. A straight person isn't having an affair with someone of the same *** because they're heterosexual, not because they're homophobic. If I turn down a dude, it doesn't mean I would turn down a chick who might have licked a kitty or two. I didn't turn him down because he's a homosexual, I turned him down because I'm heterosexual. By definition, I'm just not attracted to my same ***.

There isn't a single race that by definition isn't attracted to another race. So if your only reason for not dating anyone outside of your race is the fact that they aren't from your race, you deem that entire race to be inferior dating companions simply because they aren't from your race. Which makes no logical sense. Which is kind of racist. Your reference made no sense bro

He's literally only not dating her because of her race, that's the only factor. That's racism.

These "preference" posts doesn't make it less racist. For instance, Nazi's preferred everyone around them to be Arians. That doesn't make them less racist though, lol.

It's better to just accept that you're a little racist, and if she gets mad, oh well. Whenever anyone gets let down they're salty.

I think people who think a girl is "beautiful for a black person", define a racial group as "not my thing" like people are things or "don't like race mixing and believe it is wrong" have racist leanings in their thoughts. You know, just my preference about how i view people.

She has right to be offended and cut off friendship and i think she should be aware what type of a person is her friend right now.

 

[Endles Waltz]

I am not a racist, i have black friends. However i don't like race mixing and prefer to stick to my own race. How is that wrong?


I understand but i don't want her to feel like she is not pretty or beautiful because she is very pretty for a black girl. I am just not into that.

What is so wrong in wanting to keep to your race? I dont look down on black women or men or see them as any less capable or inferior i am just not interested into race mixing. The girl is very attractive for a black person but i rather date within my own color.

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[MAN OF SIN]

Who doesn't like chocolate?

 

[The Western Wheel]

It's preference, not racism.

By the way, race is bullshit. I can be genetically more similar to an Afrika than my White aryan neighbour.