Edo Hiruzen vs SM Kabuto (this is not a joke)

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Restrictions: ET, Manda 2, Tayuya's genjutsu
Full intel fight.

Hiruzen starts with Enma summoned, Kabuto starts in SM. Distance is 40meters. Location is a clearing in a forest.
 

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Hiruzen shits mid difficulty.

Kidos webs burned away by Katon
Kimis bone forest destroyed in one swing from Enma.
Orochimaru white snake gets cut in half by Shrunken Shadow Clone

Fuck his liquid mode Mega Raiton frys that ass up or Mega Katon evaporates his shit

Fuck his muki tensei Dragon Flame Bomb ends it white hot fire my niguh

Fuck his mugen onsa Enma has no organs he's a diamond staff and can move at will and make clones he cages Hiruzen like Itachi did Sasuke with Susanoo or he propells himself at Kabuto and whacks his ass away.

Kabuto can't even dodge Itachi Water Dragon how he dodging Mega Katon, Raiton, and Futon waaaay bigger than that?

If Kabuto hides Hiruzen sniff him out or with sensory. Kabuto admitted he sucks in taijutsu Hiruzen got Max 5 stars in taijutsu he'll babyshake him

Don't put God of shinobi against fodder Hiruzen takes this while smoking his pipe Kabuto been admitted Hiruzen stronger than all Gokage where you been at Beans??!!!!

#Neutralizer #DaProfessor #YoungSaru #TheAnswer
 

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Hiruzen shits mid difficulty.

Kidos webs burned away by Katon
Kimis bone forest destroyed in one swing from Enma.
Orochimaru white snake gets cut in half by Shrunken Shadow Clone

Fuck his liquid mode Mega Raiton frys that ass up or Mega Katon evaporates his shit

Fuck his muki tensei Dragon Flame Bomb ends it white hot fire my niguh

Fuck his mugen onsa Enma has no organs he's a diamond staff and can move at will and make clones he cages Hiruzen like Itachi did Sasuke with Susanoo or he propells himself at Kabuto and whacks his ass away.

Kabuto can't even dodge Itachi Water Dragon how he dodging Mega Katon, Raiton, and Futon waaaay bigger than that?

If Kabuto hides Hiruzen sniff him out or with sensory. Kabuto admitted he sucks in taijutsu Hiruzen got Max 5 stars in taijutsu he'll babyshake him

Don't put God of shinobi against fodder Hiruzen takes this while smoking his pipe Kabuto been admitted Hiruzen stronger than all Gokage where you been at Beans??!!!!

#Neutralizer #DaProfessor #YoungSaru #TheAnswer

Whats your serious opinion
 

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Edo Hiruzen is stronger than:

Part 1 and Early Shippuden Orochimaru
Tayuya
Kidomaru
Kimimaru
Jirobo
Sakon & Ukon

So I'm confident that he is versatile enough to take kabuto down as the collection of all their abilities.
 

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Kabuto could use Orochimaru's move here

as a distraction. While Hiruzen presumably fires off a strong elemental attack to counter, Kabuto could use Hidden Mole Jutsu or Attack Prevention Technique to enter the ground while Hiruzen can't see him. Then Kabuto can get close to Hiruzen undetected and move for a surprise attack utilizing his far superior speed and reflexes.
 

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Hiruzen shits mid difficulty.

Kidos webs burned away by Katon
Kimis bone forest destroyed in one swing from Enma.
Orochimaru white snake gets cut in half by Shrunken Shadow Clone

Fuck his liquid mode Mega Raiton frys that ass up or Mega Katon evaporates his shit

Fuck his muki tensei Dragon Flame Bomb ends it white hot fire my niguh

Fuck his mugen onsa Enma has no organs he's a diamond staff and can move at will and make clones he cages Hiruzen like Itachi did Sasuke with Susanoo or he propells himself at Kabuto and whacks his ass away.

Kabuto can't even dodge Itachi Water Dragon how he dodging Mega Katon, Raiton, and Futon waaaay bigger than that?

If Kabuto hides Hiruzen sniff him out or with sensory. Kabuto admitted he sucks in taijutsu Hiruzen got Max 5 stars in taijutsu he'll babyshake him

Don't put God of shinobi against fodder Hiruzen takes this while smoking his pipe Kabuto been admitted Hiruzen stronger than all Gokage where you been at Beans??!!!!

#Neutralizer #DaProfessor #YoungSaru #TheAnswer

How's he going to burn the webs with anything other than ama?
 

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Kabuto's lack of firepower could allow Hiruzen to win.

-Hiruzen boxes himself in with Enma cage upon seeing White Rage, then waits until its duration is over.
-Muki Tensei is countered by Katon, or breaking the stalagmites the same way he broke God Tree branches.
-Kimimaro's bones won't pierce Enma staff because diamond hardness>Steel hardness.
-Using shadow clones to spam element attacks might take out Kabuto, and he can outlast.
 

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Lmao so everyone's all if the sudden a hiruzen expert? Kabuto wins mid at best! Some of you need to stick to defending kisame and konan kamui speed papers.
 

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So basically

Im seeing Hiruzen Katon being as hot and powerful as Enton/Amaterasu as a counter?

Hiruzen clones over powering Kabuto when he can use Clones too?

Hiruzen beats Kabuto in Taijutsu?
 

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So basically

Im seeing Hiruzen Katon being as hot and powerful as Enton/Amaterasu as a counter?

Hiruzen clones over powering Kabuto when he can use Clones too?

Hiruzen beats Kabuto in Taijutsu?

Hiruzens fire isn't normal, it's white hot.

What clones can Kabuto use?

Yes Hiruzen beats Kabuto he has max 5 stars in taijutsu he says his taijutsu You can't argue against manga facts how is someone who knows he's not great in taijutsu outdoes a taijutsu master?

Reply might be late I'm on a phone for now.
 

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lol, expected the vs thread to go this way when I saw Hiruzen in the title.
 

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kabuto wins; hes the strongest non-rikudou character.

hiruzen isn't far off, but muki tensei, hakugeki & his various senjutsu boosted defense mechanisms will win out, backed by tons of snakes of course.
 

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Lol.. Kabuto gets all of the abilities and talents of the people's DNA he has. He has Shadow clones since Orochimaru does. Kabuto mid-diffs at worst. And Muki Tensei cannot be overpowered by Katon when Kabuto specifically attributed that offensive power to Amaterasu. Also, no reason to believe Enma can maintain his cage since he can both hear and see in staff form. Vibrations shit on him and so does the screeching sound. He follows up with chakra scalpel and Enma gets wrecked. Kabuto then proceeds to launch Tayuya's Genjutsu while Hiruzen and Enma are blind and the Genjutsu ends them (seeing how there's no reason to believe Enma's cage is sound proof, plus Enma is vulnerable too).
 
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Hiruzens fire isn't normal, it's white hot.

So thats evidence that its strong as Enton? Lol nope. Not to mention that was anime only. Fallacy of exclusive premises

What clones can Kabuto use?

Shadow Clone via DB stating he has all the abilities, talents, and feats of every DNA he carries.

Yes Hiruzen beats Kabuto he has max 5 stars in taijutsu he says his taijutsu You can't argue against manga facts how is someone who knows he's not great in taijutsu outdoes a taijutsu master?

So your comparing Part 1 Kabuto to a Sage Kabuto who can fight a 4.5 star Taijutsuist (Itachi) without pills (when he can fight a rusty 5 star with pills via Tsunade), yet alone Taijutsu boost from the support off Sakon activated?

Any other fail premises you would like to share?
 

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Lol.. Kabuto gets all of the abilities and talents of the people's DNA he has. He has Shadow clones since Orochimaru does. Kabuto mid-diffs at worst. And Muki Tensei cannot be overpowered by Katon when Kabuto specifically attributed that offensive power to Amaterasu. Also, no reason to believe Enma can maintain his cage since he can both hear and see in staff form. Vibrations shit on him and so does the screeching sound. Kabuto then proceeds to launch Tayuya's Genjutsu while Hiruzen and Enma are blind and the Genjutsu ends them (seeing how there's no reason to believe Enma's cage is sound proof, plus Enma is vulnerable too).

Tayuya's gen was restricted
 

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Kabuto low diffs, dunno how this can even be a matchup honestly...
 

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Oops. Doesn't matter, White Rage does the job just fine tbh, since Enma hears it.

No worries I just figured you didn't see it so i mentioned before someone bit your head off for it.
 
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