Hebi Sasuke vs Tsunade

[Lord Tywin]

Tsunade is war arc
Intel is full
distance is 30M
location is a grassland

 

[Forbidden Technique]

With intel being full, Tsunade should aim to exploit Sasukes use of his CM. Doing so, would be summoning Katsayu and taking refuge in an effort to outlast the CM. She should be able to handle base Sasuke in CQC, but I'm not entirely sure.

Eh. Sasuke definitely wins more times then not.

 

[NarutoX28]

^ If that happens, Sasuke would be better off ending the fight with a Kirin GG.

 

[Curse Mark]

Tsunade is war arc
Intel is full
distance is 30M
location is a grassland

In character or no?

 

[KingHashirama]

Tsunade mid-diff at the hardest.

Him actually winning against any of the gokage without a MS, is a joke.

 

[NarutoX28]

Tsunade mid-diff at the hardest.

Him actually winning against any of the gokage without a MS, is a joke.

Hebi Sasuke > Deidara > Gaara.

ABC Logic at it's finest.

 

[ToshiZO]

With intel being full, Tsunade should aim to exploit Sasukes use of his CM. Doing so, would be summoning Katsayu and taking refuge in an effort to outlast the CM. She should be able to handle base Sasuke in CQC, but I'm not entirely sure.

Eh. Sasuke definitely wins more times then not.

Full intel would go both ways, and Sasuke would not be caught offguard by Tsunade. He would go for sure kills, he outclasses her in CQC. She makes up for a lot of it with tanking attacks and countering that way but if Sasuke knows what she is gonna try he will fight accordingly.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hebi Sasuke > Deidara > Gaara.

ABC Logic at it's finest.

Your ABC Logic fails.. simply because Gaara was fighting at a disadvantage..

While gaara vs deidara = a fight where Gaara had to protect his village aka a defense battle

Deidara vs Sasuke = an all out open fight.


So try comparing things that are actually the same. See the issue with A>B>C logic, isn't that its wrong.. its simply that people such as yourself don't know how to use it..

 

[ToshiZO]

Your ABC Logic fails.. simply because Gaara was fighting at a disadvantage..

While gaara vs deidara = a fight where Gaara had to protect his village aka a defense battle

Deidara vs Sasuke = an all out open fight.


So try comparing things that are actually the same. See the issue with A>B>C logic, isn't that its wrong.. its simply that people such as yourself don't know how to use it..

Deidara was also fighting handicapped because

1.he was fighting on Gaara's favoured terrain, sand.
2.he did not bring enough clay because he was

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him, granted he did bring C3, but he was still not full power.
3.he was not going for the kill while Gaara was, Deidara's attacks are not ideal for capturing in the first place.

So it goes both ways.

 

[lndra]

Hebi Sasuke wins.

 

[6thHokage]

Tsunade can't avoid Kirin.

 

[KingHashirama]

Deidara was also fighting handicapped because

1.he was fighting on Gaara's favoured terrain, sand.
2.he did not bring enough clay because he was

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him, granted he did bring C3, but he was still not full power.
3.he was not going for the kill while Gaara was, Deidara's attacks are not ideal for capturing in the first place.

So it goes both ways.

1. if it was open desert I would agree.. but when its on top of his village, where hes restricted to use any high-tier moves.. its in Deidara's favor.

2. That'd fall under prep-time for both. Since Gaara had no clue about Deidara, while Deidara had some info on Gaara.

3. However, he needed to do good damage to Gaara, which was done by fighting him in his village.


But, its only furthering my point on how the A>B>C logic wasn't properly used by the dude.

As comparing a fight where both are going all out to a fight were the fighters are limited, isn't part of the A>B>C.

 

[NarutoX28]

Your ABC Logic fails.. simply because Gaara was fighting at a disadvantage..

On the contrary, Deidara was at a very big disadvantage seeing as he was fighting to capture and lacked any ammunition which even Sasori had even questioned it. Gaara, however, had locational advantage. Him being forced to protect the village is irrelevant when Deidara didn't even need to use it to subdue Gaara in the first place. It was simply the easiest and safest way out, but he certainly had the capability of subduing Gaara without shifting Gaara's focus on the village seeing as how Deidara's abilities are capable of deceiving 2 experienced and analytical users of the Sharingan.

While gaara vs deidara = a fight where Gaara had to protect his village aka a defense battle

Already refuted. Wasn't necessary in the first place.

Deidara vs Sasuke = an all out open fight.

Sasuke was at a significant disadvantage. Him being a close-mid range fighter really set himself at a disadvantage considering what Neji's fight with Kidoumaru displayed or what Kakashi conveyed to Naruto.

And besides, Sasuke stated that there was indeed a possibility that he could've won regardless of whether or not he could use Raiton as stated here:

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So any advantage that he did have (which was minor seeing as how he could only diffuse small bombs) wouldn't have been required to win.

So try comparing things that are actually the same. See the issue with A>B>C logic, isn't that its wrong.. its simply that people such as yourself don't know how to use it..

I wasn't being serious with the ABC Logic, but you're seriously underrating Hebi Sasuke.

 

[Ambivalence]

This has been done to death. Either Sasuke or Tsunade take it with (very) high difficulty. There is no ''mid-diff'' for either of the two.

 

[KingHashirama]

On the contrary, Deidara was at a very big disadvantage seeing as he was fighting to capture and lacked any ammunition which even Sasori had even questioned it. Gaara, however, had locational advantage. Him being forced to protect the village is irrelevant when Deidara didn't even need to use it to subdue Gaara in the first place. It was simply the easiest and safest way out, but he certainly had the capability of subduing Gaara without shifting Gaara's focus on the village seeing as how Deidara's abilities are capable of deceiving 2 experienced and analytical users of the Sharingan.

Because I'm sure Deidara was responsible for the thousands of people there. And saying Deidara was at a disadvantage. And then you have the aspect of "surprise attack" coming into play. List keeps going on and on.

But you believe its smart to compare the fight were 2 people go all out , to the one with where there are restrictions on the fight, and the winner only won due to the opponent being stuck in that restriction.

Already refuted. Wasn't necessary in the first place.



Sasuke was at a significant disadvantage. Him being a close-mid range fighter really set himself at a disadvantage considering what Neji's fight with Kidoumaru displayed or what Kakashi conveyed to Naruto.

lol..... gotta be a joke. Sasuke being at a disadvantage due to him not having the techniques to match Deidara isn't the same as someone not being able to perform good because they are having to protect an entire village.

And besides, Sasuke stated that there was indeed a possibility that he could've won regardless of whether or not he could use Raiton as stated here:

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So any advantage that he did have (which was minor seeing as how he could only diffuse small bombs) wouldn't have been required to win.

Deidara and Sasuke both went all out to the max. Deidara vs Gaara.. not so much.

I wasn't being serious with the ABC Logic, but you're seriously underrating Hebi Sasuke.

No you people keep underrating the ****ing Kages.. especially Tsunade (exploiting the bias used on this forum against tsunade, can have a special mini-book written on it..)

 

[Beans2]

Sasuke skewers her mid difficulty.

 

[Zavage10]

Chidori sharpspear cuts her head off. Her reflexes cant even be compared to his.

 

[HiddenSound]

I can't see how Sasuke loses.

 

[RedRobin]

Sasuke skewers her mid difficulty.

Do you think Sasuke would be able to skewer Ay if given the opportunity?

 

[NarutoX28]

Because I'm sure Deidara was responsible for the thousands of people there. And saying Deidara was at a disadvantage. And then you have the aspect of "surprise attack" coming into play. List keeps going on and on.

It's like you didn't even read what I claimed.

Deidara utilized a "surprise" attack because it was the easiest and safest way to handle things, but in order to initiate the plan, he had to have analyzed Gaara's sand (which he did) to be aware that he had to implant a bomb within Gaara's Gourd Sand and even then, Deidara didn't need C3 to be used as a distraction as I stated Deidara's capabilities of deceiving perceptive users of the Sharingan.

But you believe its smart to compare the fight were 2 people go all out , to the one with where there are restrictions on the fight, and the winner only won due to the opponent being stuck in that restriction.

Restricted Deidara defeated Gaara at his best.

Hebi Sasuke who is not equipped in handling long-range enemies defeated Deidara at his best.

lol..... gotta be a joke. Sasuke being at a disadvantage due to him not having the techniques to match Deidara isn't the same as someone not being able to perform good because they are having to protect an entire village.

Of course Gaara was capable of performing at his best. He had locational advantage whereas Deidara literally deprived himself of ammunition and was fighting merely to capture. Gaara having to protect the village in itself isn't a game breaker compared to one depriving himself of ammunition and having to be cautious as to not kill Gaara. The only reason Deidara utililzed C3 was because it was the most efficient way in conserving clay while still producing a good distraction. Had he produced more clay, then he wouldn't have needed Gaara to shift his attention to the village in the first place.

What you're not comprehending is how Gaara with a significant advantage due to locational advantage still lost to someone who purposely held back despite being equipped in handling foes such as Deidara whereas Sasuke who lacked any long-range ninjutsu still analyzed Deidara's fighting style and processed the possiblity of 2 different maneuvors in order to deal with Deidara. The sad part is, Deidara outplayed Gaara by using his Gourd Sand against him whereas Sasuke exploited Deidara's techniques to turn a one-sided battle into an advantageous situation for Sasuke.

Deidara and Sasuke both went all out to the max. Deidara vs Gaara.. not so much.

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*Uses Largest Scale Ninjutsu that Gaara has ever used in the entire manga*

And yet you still claim Gaara was holding back.

No you people keep underrating the ****ing Kages.. especially Tsunade (exploiting the bias used on this forum against tsunade, can have a special mini-book written on it..)

Tsunade has a straight-forward combat style which makes it easy for Hebi Sasuke to perceive along with the fact that Hebi Sasuke is flat out faster. Hebi Sasuke is simply a bad match-up for an opponent such as Tsunade.