Between Sasuke's and Naruto's descendants, who's likely to be stronger?

[LightSo6p]

Only during the Warring States Period. Uchihas are potentially stronger generally.



Not that I care, but may I ask why?



Really? It's great to see someone think alike in this regard, because this topic is hugely misconceived.



@bold Not really. You only say this because you only know about both those clans during the Warring States Period, and that time, the Senjus were stronger.

Uchiha was at the top because senju died off we can say the reason uchiha got to the top is from that but we really dont know

 

[Gerkak]

Uchiha was at the top because senju died off we can say the reason uchiha got to the top is from that but we really dont know

Exactly it was never stated that uchiha ever surpassed senju in either the DB or the manga to my knowledge. This is just his assumption, it is like me saying hyuga are stronger than uchiha because uchiha died out.

 

[LightSo6p]

I would say boruto he's like a minato when he got the will to fight and after he seen his dad rasengan he wanted to get there or better

 

[Karna]

How come I never thought of this when I was making my Naruto vs Sasuke threads.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Trolls always do that. Either they're annoying or funny. This troll happens to be funny.



@bold It CAN dilute, not WILL dilute. You like most of the other people over here don't have any idea about genetic inheritance stuff.

Insults? What insults? It's a fact and it's not disrespectful. No point of insult here.



That's such a fallacious criterion in talking about power. Uchiha clan is the most potentially powerful clan in NV bar Otsutsuki.

No that is the Hyuga

 

[Nick01]

Obvious answer is Naruto.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I always wanted to point out that according to OP Sarada is the strongest because she has the blood/power of the Uchiha, and the willpower of the Hokage


I say that based on Hashirama, and Naruto.

Hashirama, okay. But Naruto? :lol No.

No way to know that since senju dissappeared shortly after that period, the uchiha were only known to be the strongest after the senju vanished not before.

@bold Baseless.

Odds are with Boruto.

He's already considered the genius from their generation.

More potential from bloodlines (no need for the science lessons, this is a manga demon hawk)

He's being trained by Sasuke, top 2 (you can put him as 1st or 2nd) ninja from the previous generation

I will say this though, I was actually more impressed with Sadara than I was Boruto in the movie. It was clear he was the genius, but Sadara had some really good battle instincts that I felt Boruto was lacking

LOL, okay. But even then you need to know the principles of genetics and inheritance, just fundamentals. Because that ain't going to work even in NV.

Agree with the rest of the post though.

Uchiha was at the top because senju died off we can say the reason uchiha got to the top is from that but we really dont know

That wasn't the only reason Uchihas topped the Senjus. Yes, they were rival clans, but Uchihas just have more potential generally, excluding MS and SM for both for the sake of convenience and accuracy. Not every Senju will be lucky enough to have a powerful KKG like Hashi to rival Uchihas. Long range combat, they'll be about the same with their elemental techniques like Fire and Water release. But Uchihas have the clear edge in CQC.

No that is the Hyuga

Hyugas are fodder. The were the strongest only after the Uchihas died. They don't even come close to Senju and Uchiha clans.

 

[lndra]

Hashirama, okay. But Naruto? :lol No.

I just said a step ahead, it doesn't always have to do with power. It could be anything.

Sasuke: "You've always been ahead of me, just like my brother"

or what-ever he said.

 

[Gerkak]

@bold Baseless.

Look who's talking? You are the one making assumptions here not me. Nothing in the manga or DB to my knowledge states that the uchiha ever surpassed the senju or that they were ever going to surpass them. The last known mention of both clans powers showed that the senju were superior if you think the senju diying out means the uchiha were stronger than that means the hyuga are stronger than both.

You accept hyuga became the strongest after the uchiha died but not when it comes to senju and uchiha.

 

[LightSo6p]

Hashirama, okay. But Naruto? :lol No.



@bold Baseless.



LOL, okay. But even then you need to know the principles of genetics and inheritance, just fundamentals. Because that ain't going to work even in NV.

Agree with the rest of the post though.



That wasn't the only reason Uchihas topped the Senjus. Yes, they were rival clans, but Uchihas just have more potential generally, excluding MS and SM for both for the sake of convenience and accuracy. Not every Senju will be lucky enough to have a powerful KKG like Hashi to rival Uchihas. Long range combat, they'll be about the same with their elemental techniques like Fire and Water release. But Uchihas have the clear edge in CQC.



Hyugas are fodder. The were the strongest only after the Uchihas died. They don't even come close to Senju and Uchiha clans.

Every senju knew all elements but wood you know who mastered that but when you read up on them you will see at that time they had the upper advantage even tho they both took big loses and the end so

 

[SatanicGod]

Theoretically the eyes would eventually die out, regardless of what you say. The gene pool will dilute.

Refrain from the insults son.

Actually it's been shown that Uchiha genes are dominant in a person. Take into account Indra himself reproduced with a fodder but his descendants still have the sharingan, then the fact that through the years of dilution, Sarada was born with the trademark characteristics of the Uchiha. If the Uchiha gene was recessive you would have a point, but it's been shown to be a dominant trait.

 

[SatanicGod]

Naruto of course we can look at the women descendants since its unfair to compare men and woman in Japanese mangas. But narutos daughter seems more gifted than sarada who unlocked her sharigan after narutos daughter unlocked the byukagan .and she is much younger

Hyuga children are born with Byakugan, they just have to find out how to use it. Not all Uchiha's get sharingan

 

[Dark Sonic]

The next Itachi is coming.

Sakura's genes will hamper that greatly.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I just said a step ahead, it doesn't always have to do with power. It could be anything.

Sasuke: "You've always been ahead of me, just like my brother"

or what-ever he said.

Sorry, I misunderstood. But isn't this thread about power?

Look who's talking? You are the one making assumptions here not me. Nothing in the manga or DB to my knowledge states that the uchiha ever surpassed the senju or that they were ever going to surpass them. The last known mention of both clans powers showed that the senju were superior if you think the senju diying out means the uchiha were stronger than that means the hyuga are stronger than both.

You accept hyuga became the strongest after the uchiha died but not when it comes to senju and uchiha.

You aren't talking by manga facts either. And even your logical reasoning is non-existent unlike mine (below).

I'm talking by analysis and potential. In terms of ninjutsu, Uchihas are generally on par with the Senjus. Their signature chakra natures are also polar opposites i.e. Fire and Water. And presumably, they'll be equal in long to mid range combat. But the Uchihas are definitely superior in CQC to an average Senju owing to their Sharingan. Not many members awakened MS or learned SM, so let's keep it to a rarity. And Uchihas have powerful chakra while Senjus have larger reserves, so Uchihas have the edge initially in the battle because quantity of chakra is not that important then. So they can easily defeat Senjus earlier. More chances.

And just because Hyuga became the strongest after Uchiha died doesn't automatically mean the Uchiha became stronger when Senjus died. What the hell is this logic?

Every senju knew all elements but wood you know who mastered that but when you read up on them you will see at that time they had the upper advantage even tho they both took big loses and the end so

@bold False. Never did every Senju know all elements.

And Senjus were superior to the Uchihas during Warring States Period only due to any factor. That's what the manga tells us. The rest of the time, they were on par. But potentially, Uchihas are slightly superior, in general (through analysis).

Maybe there superiority during the Warring States Period was just a plot device along with Hashirama's superiority over Madara as well as Tobirama defeating Izuna which urged Madara to gain more power and get him to awaken the Rinnegan by feeling the need to obtain more power. Because if Madara was stronger than Hashirama, he'd never feel the need to obtain more power so he'd have never awakened the Rinnegan. And if Uchihas were stronger than Senjus, they'd never defect to the Senjus, which would never disappoint Madara, and Madara would never leave the village and fight Hashirama for supremacy, and would have never awakened the Rinnegan.

 

[Troyg39]

Yeah he was definitely not having good instincts because the boy kept resorting to cheating, instead of using his own brain and power.

Remember the first test of intelligence? And how it was supposed to test you on what you did AFTER you fell, and those who progressed forward and didn't give up, were capable of being a Chunin level shinobi.

When Boruto fell, the first thing that he did was give up, and then he thought about using the device. He wasted too much time and his teammates saved him.

I think that was Kishimoto's way of saying he wasn't ready to become a Chunin shinobi mentally. The one thing I hate about the Movie, is that we don't get to see what happens to him after the development. We don't see enough.

Yeaa you're the first one to get what I mean by that. It's ironic. Boruto was basically what he thought Naruto was as a Hokage. He didn't do real work. The ironic thing about that scene with Boruto learning rasengan is that while they were emphasizing his dedication to working hard, it was really all about him having elite talent that Naruto didn't. It was impressive because he worked all day and managed still managed to do a small one. But one day is nothing compared to the chapters of work Naruto put in to get anywhere with rasengan.

And he's being trained by Sasuke. Boruto is getting the best of both worlds. You know what I'd really like to see? Sasuke taking Boruto to learn sennin mode with the snakes. A perfect sage mode like the one Kabuto had. Shit man the possibilities are endless it sucks we can't see what will happen

 

[Gerkak]

You aren't talking by manga facts either. And even your logical reasoning is non-existent unlike mine (below).

I'm talking by analysis and potential. In terms of ninjutsu, Uchihas are generally on par with the Senjus. Their signature chakra natures are also polar opposites i.e. Fire and Water. And presumably, they'll be equal in long to mid range combat. But the Uchihas are definitely superior in CQC to an average Senju owing to their Sharingan. Not many members awakened MS or learned SM, so let's keep it to a rarity. And Uchihas have powerful chakra while Senjus have larger reserves, so Uchihas have the edge initially in the battle because quantity of chakra is not that important then. So they can easily defeat Senjus earlier. More chances.

And just because Hyuga became the strongest after Uchiha died doesn't automatically mean the Uchiha became stronger when Senjus died. What the hell is this logic?

Lol logical reasoning? This is where your assumptions start. first of all no where is it stated that senju mostly use water release where did you get that from? Why won't quantity of chakra be important when it helps spam jutsu like shadow clones? You are making assumptions like they are equal in ninjutsu and water release is the main element of the senju, these are things that were never said.

I see no logical reasons here, merely assumptions. What is known is that the senju were stronger during the clan wars and after that, in fact both madara and izuna feared senju domination if they joined forces. The senju vanished because there has been no word of them after the death of tobirama, we don't know if they died out or something else happened but it is known that the uchiha were considered the best only long after this period so yes that is what is suggested uchiha became the best after the senju vanished.

Words from the manga and data book will always take precedence over the opinions of fans when it comes to things like this. Uchiha had the same sharingan and powerful chakra during the clan wars and they still couldn't win, never did the uchiha surpass the senju, scans or it didn't happen

 

[Troyg39]

LOL, okay. But even then you need to know the principles of genetics and inheritance, just fundamentals. Because that ain't going to work even in NV.

Agree with the rest of the post though.

Lol. No. To understand that Boruto has more potential to benefit from two significant bloodlines (Hyuga/Uzumaki) than Sadara benefiting from one (Uchiha) and has more potential of those benefits being significant, "through analysis" (I think I saw you say that), you don't have to flex any science muscles bruh. You might need to know a little about averages, maybe. But it's manga man lol its cool

 

[King Of Pop]

Like it or not, the Uchiha clan is a clan of failure. You cannot deny this fact; the Uchiha have never succeeded in anything.

I'm going for Naruto.

disgraceful how this pile of shit had a bunch of thanks. they represent mostly the villainous perspective bar a few and villains get defeated, that doesnt make them a clan of failure.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Naruto Transgender for Hokage.
Sasuke a real man.
Sasuke ftw

 

[Troyg39]

You aren't talking by manga facts either. And even your logical reasoning is non-existent unlike mine (below).

I'm talking by analysis and potential. In terms of ninjutsu, Uchihas are generally on par with the Senjus. Their signature chakra natures are also polar opposites i.e. Fire and Water. And presumably, they'll be equal in long to mid range combat. But the Uchihas are definitely superior in CQC to an average Senju owing to their Sharingan. Not many members awakened MS or learned SM, so let's keep it to a rarity. And Uchihas have powerful chakra while Senjus have larger reserves, so Uchihas have the edge initially in the battle because quantity of chakra is not that important then. So they can easily defeat Senjus earlier. More chances.

Bruh I'm so sorry but I don't get how you coming to your conclusion. Everything you said about the Uchiha could be said about them during the warring era. Yet, despite the "more chances" of success your analysis for potential is saying they got from natural abilities, shit it didn't help them mother****ers much because they still ended up being inferior. So technically the manga has already proved you wrong unless I'm missing something. Like what are you really trying to say?

**Edit**Seriously man all you just said right then was "Uchiha are stronger than Senju because Uchiha are Uchiha and Senju are Senju" lol