Kakuzu vs Hiashi

[Imperious]

I think you're a little confused. Domu does nothing to prevent the physical touch. It does not matter that domu isn't affected by physical attacks, because the attack itself is not the jab. Look at the diagram given when he fought Kidomaru to get an idea of what I'm saying. The chakra is coming out of his finger tips, that is the attack.

Yeah I might be a little confused. I thought that the density of that chakra focusing on his fingers tip was the physical touch, and that Domu was Earth Release, meaning it made his skin as hard a rock (diamond), which wouldn't allow the jab to push deeply into his skin and his the pressure point... ​

 

[BlacLord™]

Counters to Domu?​

Gentle Fist.

Domu makes the skin hard to protect against attacks which deal external damage. GF is an internal art, meaning it ignores that which tries to cut or break by applying brute force to the intended target's body and instead, bypasses the "shell" and hits the meridian and organs.

 

[Imperious]

Kidomaru used gold like armour to negate gentle fist attacks . Domu is hard as diamond (harder than gold) so it would work fine.

That's what I was saying to DK.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Rhy or ya boy DK

The tard who thinks hardening your skin protects against a jutsu that hurtd you internally. Then we have the other moron who compares the hardening of the skin to wearing armor. Lol if you are touched, you get affected. Hardened skin is still Kakuzus skin. Armor isnt.

 

[BlacLord™]

That's what I was saying to DK.​

It would be a good point, but Nenkin is more than just armour. It's specifically designed to block chakra once making contact with oxygen.*

*Second Databook

 

[Imperious]

The tard who thinks hardening your skin protects against a jutsu that hurtd you internally. Then we have the other moron who compares the hardening of the skin to wearing armor. Lol if you are touched, you get affected. Hardened skin is still Kakuzus skin. Armor isnt.

Neji focuses chakra into his finger tips, from then on condensing that chakra so that it's maintained a stable shape at his finger tips. Afterwards he uses Byukugan to pinpoint the location of his opponents pressure points and then attacks. His fingers hit the pressure points by pressing deeply and heavily into the skin, his reinforced fingers assuring that he hits the pressure points hard enough. However, if one has skins hard as diamonds, the skin won't be as easily pressed because it is no longer soft and malleable like normal skin. Its diamond hard, so Neji is more likely to break his fingers before getting to Kakuzu's pressure points. You sir, have tits to calm. I'll leave you to it.​

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

That's what I was saying to DK.​

I just checked that fight and looks like Kidomaru armour have ability to actually block chakra so I doubt Domu will work

 

[super yang]

kakuzu lifts hiashis' kaiten into the lower atmosphere w/ ''5-second tornado pressure bomb no jutsu'' then finishes the helpless duck w/ ''how many lightning bolts do U take w/ your cup of death? no jutsu'' before the clansman can even land.

since hiashi is of reserved nobility & has no bounty, kakuzu then disposes of his corpse w/ ''5-acre forest fire no jutsu''

GFG.

 

[Curse Mark]

Kidomaru used gold like armour to negate gentle fist attacks . Domu is hard as diamond (harder than gold) so it would work fine.

Kidomaru's layer armor blocked chakra. It was a physical external layer whereas domu is just hard skin. It was a specific material. Domu was never stated to do this.

His fingers hit the pressure points by pressing deeply and heavily into the skin​

This is not true.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Kidomaru's layer armor blocked chakra. It was a physical external layer whereas domu is just hard skin. It was a specific material. Domu was never stated to do this.


This is not true.

I know I just re-read that part Domu isn´t working but does Kakuzu even have all organs I remember his body being competely made from that threads whe he uses that jutsu

 

[Imperious]

I just checked that fight and looks like Kidomaru armour have ability to actually block chakra so I doubt Domu will work

Domu will work, because it's diamond hard. if there's a button under a sponge and your press the sponge, your fingers are going to push to the button. If there's a button under a brick, and you press the brick, your fingers aren't going to press the button. What i'm trying to say is that your skin is squishy, which is why a jab to your pressure point would work. If your skin was as hard as diamond is, you wouldn't be able to press through to get to the pressure point because it isn't squishy. Lol, i'm trying to explain as best as I can, so try to understand. Do you think Gentle Fist would work against the Thing from Fantastic Four? ​

 

[Imperious]

This is not true.

so you're telling me that you don't hit someones pressure points by jabbing (pressing deeply) into their skin?​

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Domu will work, because it's diamond hard. if there's a button under a sponge and your press the sponge, your fingers are going to push to the button. If there's a button under a brick, and you press the brick, your fingers aren't to press the button. What i'm trying to say is that your skin is squishy, which is why a jab to your pressure point would work. If your skin was as hard as diamond is, you wouldn't be able to press through to get to the pressure point because it isn't squishy. Lol, i'm trying to explain as best as I can, so try to understand.​

True but I think Neji said his gentle fist jab can cut through anything,so only reason that gold armour worked is because somehow it has ability to block chakra in this case gentle fist jab.

Without chakra blocking ability it should cut that gold armour and hit organ.

But maybe that was only Neji wank and his gentle fist jab can´t cut anything so maybe Domu works I don´t know .

 

[Imperious]

True but I think Neji said his gentle fist jab can cut through anything,so only reason that gold armour worked is because somehow it has ability to block chakra in this case gentle fist jab.

Without chakra blocking ability it should cut that gold armour and hit organ.

But maybe that was only Neji wank and his gentle fist jab can´t cut anything so maybe Domu works I don´t know .

Cut is a word that applies to physical contact. Domu is not affected by physical attacks. Also, I think he was wanking his own technique. He thinks it can cut anything because he has yet to face something it couldn't....until he met Kakuzu​

 

[Curse Mark]

so you're telling me that you don't hit someones pressure points by jabbing (pressing deeply) into their skin?​

This is Naruto, not real life. Go reread the chuunin exams, Neji VS Hinata. They explain that the gentle fist is just a touch.

Cut is a word that applies to physical contact. Domu is not affected by physical attacks. Also, I think he was wanking his own technique. He thinks it can cut anything because he has yet to face something it couldn't....until he met Kakuzu

And the gentle fist STILL isn't a physical attack. It's not taijutsu.

 

[Imperious]

This is Naruto, not real life. Go reread the chuunin exams, Neji VS Hinata. They explain that the gentle fist is just a touch.




And the gentle fist STILL isn't a physical attack. It's not taijutsu.

Dkdankong, do me a favor and stfu. Easily one of the more annoying members on here...

(jk)

Anyways, if gentle fist isn't taijutsu than it's nintaijutsu. Also, it isn't just simply a touch. No scans imply that. In every use of gentle fist, they don't simply touch there opponents, they jab, because it's necessary to get to the pressure point.

Edit: Nevermind, his fight with Naruto looks like touches instead of jabs. :sdo: Okay, I concede

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Dkdankong, do me a favor and stfu. Easily one of the more annoying members on here...

(jk)

Anyways, if gentle fist isn't taijutsu than it's nintaijutsu. Also, it isn't just simply a touch. No scans imply that. In every use of gentle fist, they don't simply touch there opponents, they jab, because it's necessary to get to the pressure point.

Edit: Nevermind, his fight with Naruto looks like touches instead of jabs. :sdo: Okay, I concede

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[Imperious]

I still don't understand how Neji simply "touching" the surface of Kakuzu's sking, without pressing into his skin is enough to hit his pressure points (tenketsu) and disrupt his chakra flow...​

 

[Curse Mark]

Anyways, if gentle fist isn't taijutsu than it's nintaijutsu. Also, it isn't just simply a touch. No scans imply that.

Stopped reading @ No scans imply that, as I told you exactly where to look and it says exactly that, in words even more beneficial to my argument. A little annoyed I have to tell you where to look and then go get it for you and explain it to you, but oh well.

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"No, a slight touch is enough."

Not only that,
'Even the slightest tap can cause severe internal damage, hence the name "gentle" fist.'

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I still don't understand how Neji simply "touching" the surface of Kakuzu's sking, without pressing into his skin is enough to hit his pressure points (tenketsu) and disrupt his chakra flow...​

Read the scan.