Sasuke + Naruto vs Hagoromo scenario's

[Unorthodox]

Tired of the Hagoromo hype just here to debunk it or see what the base thinks.

Info - Manga
Distance - Does not matter
Conditions - Sasuke and Naruto are fused into one being, this is them up to the end of the series so they're vote versions (Sasuke is without Bijuu chakra) vs Non Jin Hagoromo's
Restrictions - None

Scenario 2 - Adult Naruto with full Kurama, & Adult Sasuke with Bijuu chakra fused vs JJ Hago.


This is all to debunk the theory or saying that Hagaromo is naruto + Sasuke

 

[Lord Tywin]

They lose both

 

[Unorthodox]

Kifflom please explain how they lose either one?

Personally its a Stomp in both scenes for me.

 

[Lord Tywin]

who the fuck is Kifflom? :lol

 

[ARGUS]

Kifflom please explain how they lose either one?

Personally its a Stomp in both scenes for me.

Non Jin hagoromo = RSM Naruto + Rinnegan sasuke
Give Naruto and sasuke their ashura avatar or BPS and they get to the same level as non Jin hagoromoro AT BEST
A bit below him actually because their boosts are still not cutting it for the whole yin or yang that they're missing

Now give hagoromo the enormous boost of being a Jin and he shits on them

 

[Lord Tywin]

Now give hagoromo the enormous boost of being a Jin and he shits on them

SMH adult Sasuke is >Kaguya

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[Unorthodox]

Non Jin hagoromo = RSM Naruto + Rinnegan sasuke

In chakra potency and thats all.

jj Madara is more or less on par with Non jin Hagoromo especially with his 3rd rinnegan and he would get annihilated by them combined Rinnegan Hagoromo would get punked easily they're speed would be insane and we've seen the jump Sasuke's PS got from a bijuu chakra's Senjutsu+The other half of Hago's power + Kurama stomps that out and that's with out the ashura avatar added into it. The PS alone would make it a stomp in they're favor all the BDFRS and the ration.

He also has to deal with shadow clones using avatars.

Give Naruto and sasuke their ashura avatar or BPS and they get to the same level as non Jin hagoromoro AT BEST
A bit below him actually because their boosts are still not cutting it for the whole yin or yang that they're missing

How are they missing anything when he gave them his full chakra or is this a reply to the second scenario? if this is a reply to that they're still not missing abeat

They're adult growth plus the other half of Kurama and Bijuu chakra would make up for more than what juubi could provide then add that its only useful ability would be a dama which is never happening.

Now give hagoromo the enormous boost of being a Jin and he shits on them

explained above he gets bodied.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hagoromo loses Scenario 1. Naruto and Sasuke carry half of his power w/o the Juubi. Fuse them together and they come close to fighting on par with him. Add the excess Nature Energy Naruto can take in and he'd logically become stronger.

JJ Hagoromo shit stomps Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke with zero effort though, regardless of how much you argue otherwise.

Though this is the third shit thread I'm commenting on. Leave it to unorthodox to try and argue Hagoromo vs. Naruto/Sasuke using feats when Hagoromo has no feats.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Hago never completely gave half of his power to each. He was still in ghost mode as floating chakra. Hago, after giving power to Naruo and Sasuke, probably had more chakra in him than DMS Obito.

 

[Unorthodox]

Hagoromo loses Scenario 1. Naruto and Sasuke carry half of his power w/o the Juubi. Fuse them together and they come close to fighting on par with him. Add the excess Nature Energy Naruto can take in and he'd logically become stronger.

JJ Hagoromo shit stomps Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke with zero effort though, regardless of how much you argue otherwise.

Though this is the third shit thread I'm commenting on. Leave it to unorthodox to try and argue Hagoromo vs. Naruto/Sasuke using feats when Hagoromo has no feats.

JJ Hagoromo shits stomps them yet you said Adult Naruto and Sasuke could defeat Kaguya who you think stomps Hagoromo lol the base.

Leave it to unorthodox to try and argue Hagoromo vs. Naruto/Sasuke using feats when Hagoromo has no feats.

Yes because using this chakra potency shit is sound if that was so how did Kaguya lose or even begun to be contested by people who's chakra was tiers below JJ hagoromo's?

 

[KidGamer65]

JJ Hagoromo shits stomps them yet you said Adult Naruto and Sasuke could defeat Kaguya who you think stomps Hagoromo lol the base.



Yes because using this chakra potency shit is sound if that was so how did Kaguya lose or even begun to be contested by people who's chakra was tiers below JJ hagoromo's?

Only because they had the seals for that match, and Sasuke had the Bijuu. If you are going to quote my argument, do me a favor and do it correctly. The rest is irrelevant. I'll let you piece together why exactly they were able to defeat Kaguya on your own, because I don't have the patience to continue to reply to you on a topic you won't concede even when the entire base proves you wrong.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Yea, Kaguya canonically beat them on like 2-3 occasions without killing intent.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hagoromo loses Scenario 1. Naruto and Sasuke carry half of his power w/o the Juubi. Fuse them together and they come close to fighting on par with him. Add the excess Nature Energy Naruto can take in and he'd logically become stronger.

JJ Hagoromo shit stomps Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke with zero effort though, regardless of how much you argue otherwise.

Though this is the third shit thread I'm commenting on. Leave it to unorthodox to try and argue Hagoromo vs. Naruto/Sasuke using feats when Hagoromo has no feats.

That is correct , and there is no other way to think.

Basically if it is Adult RSM Naruto and Adult Rinnegan Sasuke from boruto the movie at their strongest then they may have decent chance to tie with JJ Hagoromo.

JJ Hagoromo's abilities based on manga:

- TSB
- Juubidama
- All Rinnegan abilities
- Sasuke's ST(questionable as 4th databook translated mention Hagoromo giving his ability to Sasuke)
- flight
- all JJ abilities
- RSM

I doubt they would beat him but they may have chance. Also:

Prime Kaguya > Post Birth Kaguya & Powered up Kaguya ~ JJ Hagoromo >= Adult RSM Naruto & Adult Rinnegan Sasuke at peak >= Initial Kaguya

 

[KidGamer65]

That is correct , and there is no other way to think.

Basically if it is Adult RSM Naruto and Adult Rinnegan Sasuke from boruto the movie at their strongest then they may have decent chance to tie with JJ Hagoromo.

JJ Hagoromo's abilities based on manga:

- TSB
- Juubidama
- All Rinnegan abilities
- Sasuke's ST(questionable as 4th databook translated mention Hagoromo giving his ability to Sasuke)
- flight
- all JJ abilities
- RSM

I doubt they would beat him but they may have chance. Also:

Prime Kaguya > Post Birth Kaguya & Powered up Kaguya ~ JJ Hagoromo >= Adult RSM Naruto & Adult Rinnegan Sasuke at peak >= Initial Kaguya

No. They have no chance to tie with Hagoromo. :lol. And your ranking below is all screwed up as usual, but I can't be bothered when all you'll do is continue to overrate despite being proven wrong.

 

[KCMNaruto]

No. They have no chance to tie with Hagoromo. :lol. And your ranking below is all screwed up as usual, but I can't be bothered when all you'll do is continue to overrate despite being proven wrong.

Really ? That is rich comming from you and the irony of me wanking Hagoromo while you are defending him here I have never expected something like that to happen.

why is my ranking screwed ?, tell I am curious because all I do is base it on the manga showings

Also what about Adult RSM Naruto ashura avatar(vote 2) absorbing all nature energy around & Bijuu Susanoo Sasuke vs JJ Hagoromo ?. What do you think could they have chance ?

 

[KidGamer65]

Really ? That is rich comming from you and the irony of me wanking Hagoromo while you are defending him here I have never expected something like that to happen.

why is my ranking screwed ?, tell I am curious because all I do is base it on the manga showings

Also what about Adult RSM Naruto ashura avatar(vote 2) absorbing all nature energy around & Bijuu Susanoo Sasuke vs JJ Hagoromo ?. What do you think could they have chance ?

Me defending Hagoromo has nothing to do with you wanking him, Naruto and Sasuke.

And no, nothing you posted is based on Manga showings. Kaguya is never shown to be any stronger than she has ever appeared to be bar when she took in more chakra against Naruto and Sasuke. Hagoromo has never been implied to be on par with any version of Kaguya, and Adult Naruto and Sasuke barely have the feats to prove they are far above their past versions let alone on par with Hagoromo together, when he has the Juubi.

And they still lose. At the very most, they'd be somewhere around (without Juubi) Hagoromo's general tier as Adults, but at the very most a tier above him. At the very most, and that's unlikely. Putting them on the same team doesn't make up for a boost in power from the Juubi, which is far greater than 2, 3 or 4x given Obito and Madara's buff.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

JJ Hagoromo is superior to Adult Naruto and Sasuke in everyway, that's not even counting the fact he needs to be sealed. Fighting someone who is stronger in all regards while having no way to defeat him is honestly retarded and shouldn't even be mentioned.

 

[LuckyMan]

The reality is that non Jin, dead, etheral Hagoromo can revive souls no problem.

 

[Unorthodox]

Only because they had the seals for that match, and Sasuke had the Bijuu. If you are going to quote my argument, do me a favor and do it correctly. The rest is irrelevant.

***** every time somebody ''quote's'' your punk ass always say (That's not the full truth you did it wrong i said more than or i changed my mind) Phuck outta here!. Seals are only needed because she's immortal nothing more and having seals changes you from getting stomped by Hagoromo who by your logic gets stomped by her to now able to being match? phuck outa here.

Naruto and Sasuke can win as long as they have the seals.

that is what you said and you only said that because she's immortal. let me put it like this (Going by what you've presented me.

separately them with the seals >= Kaguya who stomps > JJ Hagoromo who stomps > Them Combined (Without seals)

Whaaaaat? Then add the fact most of the people in the thread agreed they defeat her with the seals. Shit logic makes no sense.

I'll let you piece together why exactly they were able to defeat Kaguya on your own, because I don't have the patience to continue to reply to you on a topic you won't concede even when the entire base proves you wrong

Its not about her sparing them trust me its about the savy techs they had to save their asses which proves my point having stronger chakra does not = a win which is basically being said around here. If chakra potency was the only key factor in this why did Kaguya resort to killing them with her strongest tech Naruto even made her flee by in CQC with multiply clones Kamui trolled her as well.

The entire base needs a valid reason besides A > B > C

you can argue this with feats. JJ feats, And Rinnegan feats but does not matter because he'll come up short everytime. Them combined > them separately with seals thus Hagoromo is mauled. But i do not expect you to concede to this until another thread comes up like always.

 

[EZQ]

Sasuke WITH bijuu cahkra and VOTE 2 Naruto are only on Pre-JJ Hagoromo level (and that doesn't mean they can beat him).

JJ Hagoromo stomps both at the same time while reading Icha Icha