Russia and USA involvement in Syria

[UltraPain]

How do you feel about both Russia and the USA's involvement with Syria?

- Should they be involved?
- If you do support a side, which side do you lean towards? The Syrian government (Russian supported) or the rebels (USA supported)?

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

None, they're both there for their own agenda.

 

[Lance171]

its almost like the modern day cold war if you think about it and know your history

 

[UltraPain]

its almost like the modern day cold war if you think about it and know your history

Agreed. It reminds me of when Russia invaded Afghanistan. It's like history is repeating itself.

 

[Gerkak]

They should not involve themselves in things that don't concern them. The middle east needs to learn to take care of its own affairs not relying on external powers. By relying on these powers instead of sorting out the source of these problems foolish extremist groups like ISIS continue to appear like ants. Wealthy middle east countries do nothing to assist their own poor middle east neighbors how can they not expect such groups to appear? ISIS is their own Frankenstein's monster and it should be up to them to deal with it. Humans are more violent than animals when in difficulty this truth is absolute. U_U

This is not to say the external powers are good, no.... What they do in the middle east is what suits their purpose.

 

[Ludicrous]

At least Russia knows what they're doing by supporting Assad and bombing all rebels/terrorists. Who knows if the US knows who to support anymore because the rebels they were arming turned into ISIS. The US should not be there. Iraq was a mess and another war is going to destroy any likability for them in the middle east. They should just let the Russia sort it out, they had experience in Chechnya and Afghanistan.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

At least Russia knows what they're doing by supporting Assad and bombing all rebels/terrorists. Who knows if the US knows who to support anymore because the rebels they were arming turned into ISIS. The US should not be there. Iraq was a mess and another war is going to destroy any likability for them in the middle east. They should just let the Russia sort it out, they had experience in Chechnya and Afghanistan.

I'm really glad the U.S didn't let Russia "sort it out" in Afghanistan though.

 

[Multiply]

None, they're both there for their own agenda.

This ^.

Russia is trying to save its only ally. They don't care about Assad either :lol.

USA doesn't like Assad. Trying to gain more control.

 

[Ludicrous]

I'm really glad the U.S didn't let Russia "sort it out" in Afghanistan though.

Ok, yeah, it's probably not realistic that the US is going to stop being involved.

 

[Multiply]

At least Russia knows what they're doing by supporting Assad and bombing all rebels/terrorists. Who knows if the US knows who to support anymore because the rebels they were arming turned into ISIS. The US should not be there. Iraq was a mess and another war is going to destroy any likability for them in the middle east. They should just let the Russia sort it out, they had experience in Chechnya and Afghanistan.

Russia isn't supporting Assad. They're supporting the country so that they remain an ally.

Earlier on Tuesday the Russian foreign ministry said it was not crucial for Syria's President Bashar al-Assad to stay in power, saying it was up to the Syrian people to decide.

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[Lance171]

Agreed. It reminds me of when Russia invaded Afghanistan. It's like history is repeating itself.

yep were basically fighting each other just with another countries people. I hope Russia wont take it to far because it wouldn't be good with Obama's forign policy being weak and putin becoming more and more ballsy. first taking crimea from Ukraine now bombing the guys fighting assad that we're supporting

 

[UltraPain]

Russia isn't supporting Assad. They're supporting the country so that they remain an ally.

Just because Russia makes that statement doesn't mean it's their true intentions though. That's like believing what was said about their involvent in Ukraine. Lying about objectives of course applies to the US too. We lie through our teeth all the time.

Just came across this and found it interesting. It lays out where everyone is standing.

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yep were basically fighting each other just with another countries people. I hope Russia wont take it to far because it wouldn't be good with Obama's forign policy being weak and putin becoming more and more ballsy. first taking crimea from Ukraine now bombing the guys fighting assad that we're supporting

I think Putin will definitely push further. IMO he's looking to reinstate all those buffer states asap. As for Obama, its such a tough call. If he sends troops he'll piss off the majority of the US.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

USA does not have job in Syria since this whole Isil shit is their responsibility Russia came after Syrian government asked for help while Us is there illegaly

Also Us spent whole year bombing nothing Russia did more in 1 week than us did whole year

Also many us trained rebels ended in isil making things worse

Russian and Us part in syria is not comparable at all

And no need for replying to me I am not interested in dealing with butthurt muricans saying us dont have anythin with isil

 

[Beans2]

USA involvement=Good. We have deployed less than 50 troops to advise and train Kurdish rebels who are actively fighting ISIS which is the US' only goal in the region.

Russian involvement=Bad. Russia deploying hundreds of troops and tanks to the region has been the #1 unifier for Islamic militants and are using it as a propoganda tool. Russia is in it to support the regime of Assad, who's a corrupt dictator and a member of a Shiite minority (in other words, Syria's people have faced oppression at his hands and don't want a Shiite in power.) If Russia was primarily fighting ISIS (who is bad in anyone's book) then I'd be ok with their involvement, but they really are supporting Assad's regime by helping him fight Syrian independants.

Iran involvement=Bad. They are basically doing the same thing as Russia by supporting Assad's regime, and are helping keep a regime in power which the country's people do not support. They've suffered heavy casualties (including six generals). It's the same concept as Vietnam (not on the same side as the people).

What we should not do is leave it to the middle east and let it "sort itself out" because that only results in a drawn-out war between Assad and armed rebels, meaning more casualties, refugees, and more Islamic militants as ISIS takes advantage of the confusion to grow and expand its network.

 

[UltraPain]

USA does not have job in Syria since this whole Isil shit is their responsibility Russia came after Syrian government asked for help while Us is there illegaly

Also Us spent whole year bombing nothing Russia did more in 1 week than us did whole year

Also many us trained rebels ended in isil making things worse

Russian and Us part in syria is not comparable at all

And no need for replying to me I am not interested in dealing with butthurt muricans saying us dont have anythin with isil

Lol keep cool man just because I live in the US doesn't mean I'm going to go crazy on you. Regardless of what my country does I have my own mind. I just want to ask everyone what their opinion is so I can learn.

If you're willing to answer: How do you and your fellow countrymen feel about the situation? What is the Russian opinion on Assad and do you think your soldiers will stay in Syria?

 

[PT1990]

Durring Assads "regime" you could call Syria an secular country. Even christians could cultivate their religion freely. Women didnt have to wear hajibs or burkas. Compared to this, Saudi Arabia is much, MUCH strict county, in which you can be put to preason for wearing rosary, and were women are senteced to preason for extramaterial *** becuase they were raped, and yet US supports them (becuae of oil). USA and their allies f**ked up countries like Iraq or Libya for good, lets just hope that Syria is not an another example.

Majority of the rebels are muslim fanatics, and should be destroyed, Russia has my full support in that case.

 

[Lance171]

USA does not have job in Syria since this whole Isil shit is their responsibility Russia came after Syrian government asked for help while Us is there illegaly

Also Us spent whole year bombing nothing Russia did more in 1 week than us did whole year

Also many us trained rebels ended in isil making things worse

Russian and Us part in syria is not comparable at all

And no need for replying to me I am not interested in dealing with butthurt muricans saying us dont have anythin with isil

no point in responding because you believe Russian propaganda and extremely biased

 

[PT1990]

no point in responding because you believe Russian propaganda and extremely biased

Well, Assad may be a dictator, but I still like him more than various sunni muslim fanatics who wants to take control of Syria.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Lol keep cool man just because I live in the US doesn't mean I'm going to go crazy on you. Regardless of what my country does I have my own mind. I just want to ask everyone what their opinion is so I can learn.

If you're willing to answer: How do you and your fellow countrymen feel about the situation? What is the Russian opinion on Assad and do you think your soldiers will stay in Syria?

First can you see my location it says republika srpska so I am Serb and can only tell you what Serbs think about this

First of all our media are neutral so we have great insight when it comes to Syria

My country support Russian intervention and we know about Us fake efforts to stop Isil
As I said my media are neutral so they only publish confirmed and true news

On purpose or not but Us bombing always somehow have civilian victims while I havent heard anything similar in Russian case also your media lies are only making things worse

About Russia plans I really don't know but UK and Israel lying about possible land intervention of russian militia Putin and other clearly said they wont send land forces to fight

Now its still unknown what happened with Russian airplane but if Isil is really responsible I won't be surprised if they go mad and send army to erase them from in existence.

As far as I know Russia will stay in Syria until they clear main Isil forces . after that they will leave syrian army to deal with remains of Isil which wont be threat at that moment

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

USA involvement=Good. We have deployed less than 50 troops to advise and train Kurdish rebels who are actively fighting ISIS which is the US' only goal in the region.

Russian involvement=Bad. Russia deploying hundreds of troops and tanks to the region has been the #1 unifier for Islamic militants and are using it as a propoganda tool. Russia is in it to support the regime of Assad, who's a corrupt dictator and a member of a Shiite minority (in other words, Syria's people have faced oppression at his hands and don't want a Shiite in power.) If Russia was primarily fighting ISIS (who is bad in anyone's book) then I'd be ok with their involvement, but they really are supporting Assad's regime by helping him fight Syrian independants.

Iran involvement=Bad. They are basically doing the same thing as Russia by supporting Assad's regime, and are helping keep a regime in power which the country's people do not support. They've suffered heavy casualties (including six generals). It's the same concept as Vietnam (not on the same side as the people).

What we should not do is leave it to the middle east and let it "sort itself out" because that only results in a drawn-out war between Assad and armed rebels, meaning more casualties, refugees, and more Islamic militants as ISIS takes advantage of the confusion to grow and expand its network.

I am on my phone and I am going to sleep now so I will shit on your idiotic post tomorrow.

Edit :nevermind its pointless since US media are selling different story