How about you use some feats to suggest Hashirama can tank a punch from a rusty Tsunade, ill wait. 2. Is irrelevant to me.
She can't injure Orochimaru or Kabuto seriously, so there's no reason she kills a Sage with regeneration on par with Byakugo. Though considering how stupid you continue to make yourself sound, I expect a reply like "Part 1 Kabuto>Hashirama in durability". :lol
I rather not bother with this logic. You think Orochimaru layer skin is more tanky then Orochimaru himself, we can agree to disagree.
This is why you are viewed as a retard by pretty much everyone that argues with you. I even tried to break it down for your dumbass but alas, you can barely read English so I shouldn't have expected you to be able to come to the correct conclusion on your own.
Orochimaru's real face survived because the layer of skin on his first face took all the impact. If his real face had taken all the impact, then his real face would've been ripped off. If I was saying that the layer of skin was tankier than Orochimaru, then I'd be saying that the layer of skin would take less damage than what his real face would take. But that's not the case. I'll even throw an example in for your slow ass since I already know I'll get a dumbass reply since I don't have the ability to dumb this down to elementary school level language.
-2 glass panels are
identical and can only take 10 J of energy each before smashing.
-The glass panels are layered on top of each other.
-A ball is thrown, and when it hits, it will apply 10 J of energy on it's target.
-The ball hits the glass panel.
-Panel 1 smashes. Panel 2 is safe.
Now class. Does this mean that Panel 2>Panel 1 in durability? NO. Just like Orochimaru's second face isn't>His first face. If any part of his body gets hit by KN3 it gets ripped off. When Kabuto has the same body as Orochimaru then we can talk. Until then, you sound stupid as usual.
There is no agree to disagree here. You are wrong. It's really that simple. I'll just take your concession though.
The fact you jumped to this already tells me that you are going to end up talking about how "lol i was grasping". Gtfo kid and learn how to argue objectively when it comes to the characters you fap over.
Indeed it brings out physical feats but how is it any different then you posting a scan of Madara and Hashirama weapon clash. Yet you used that very scan for portrayal of Close quarters capability. So I guess you only follow your own reasoning. Chakra scalpel is not relevant to my point as its priorities of the jutsu doesnt protect his skin. It only increases cutting power.
Except Hashirama and Madara having their weapons out clashing means that they have been fighting in that area the whole time. Then we have them being unable to finish the match with Taijutsu and CQC alone at the end of VoTE. Where is the implication that Itachi and Kabuto were fighting a drawn out CQC fight? Hmm, oh wait. There is none. I fully expected this shitty reply so I'm not surprised. EjBlack doing what he does best. Grasping at straws for his favorites.
Is everyone seeing this? Now he's actually trying to claim that having a chakra capable of cutting a human in half on your hand adds no type of protecting. If chakra scalpel can cut, then it's solid. If it's solid, then that's the only reason he can clash with Itachi's blade. What's funny is that Kabuto turns chakra scalpel on every single time he wanted to clash with the sword. Unless you are going to sit here and begin to tell me that he was trying to cut through the blade, it's because clashing with his hand gets his hand taken off.
Right the same person who thinks Kurama claw = Bujuudama. I can play the same game, but I rather stay on topic. Now stop the strawman or actually know the function of chakra scalpel as you sound stupid.
Except Kurama's claw doesn't equal Bijuu Dama nor have I ever stated it. If English isn't your first language, maybe I need to go learn that and start typing in it so you can understand. I know the function of charka scalpel, I'm just going to need you to stop arguing things that we both know is false.
Lol loved the strawman. I really dont, your wasting my time.
1. I was fully aware that chakra scalpel was used in that fight. I ignored it because obviously it was irrelevant to the feat shown. As Im not addressing "why" Itachi got cut. But actually the strike speed that caught Itachi off guard itself
You mean after Kabuto came from behind? With a surprise attack? After using Oral Rebirth? Which is Ninjutsu? :lol. Kabuto's striking speed is child's play for Itachi outside of surprise attacks and the Manga clearly shows it. Though once again, another shitty reply that was expected from you.
2. The very scan you circle out right states it: ""The fact remains that Scalpel wasnt built to cut solid objects" So what I said then then and now is no different. It isn't built to give Kabuto hand protection so obviously it was feats of his bare arm clashing with the sword.
Lol you definitely need to go back to my sig. Chakra scalpel being meant to do internal damage doesn't change the fact that it cuts solid material. It cutting solid material means that it is solid. It being solid means that when Kabuto touches something, he's using the scalpel to touch it.
Quoting your words doesn't help because your words are just as dumb as everything you've been stating in this thread.
If I used your shitty ass logic, I'd be saying that Kabuto is cutting wood and cutting people in half with his bare hands because "lol chakra scalpel not ment to do dis". Do I even have to explain how dumb this sounds?
And this is coming from a guy who hates when people quote things you said back then Lol. "Hur dur thats all in the past why you bringing up now Dur"
If you are going to go against FACTUAL INFORMATION for the sake of an argument, you will be quoted.
Lol you are pretty predictable, which is probably because you don't have the brainpower to actually say something that would move this argument forward in your favor.
Nope theres a thing call difficultly evaluation? You know when people say "so and so wins low, mid, or high, ect". Not surprise you find some type of way to misrepresent my points and try to shoot them down with such methods.
Why don't we learn how to speak English? You stated "Hashirama doesn't overwhelm them both". If he doesn't overwhelm them, he doesn't beat them. That has nothing to do with durability. If you meant something else, I suggest you do us all the favor and use the term in the English language that actually represents what you are saying dumbass.
Except it isn't. Your argument is that as long as the character is superior in a field, it doesnt matter if you factor inferior(s) feats are, even being used together. Which ends with you going in circles with me. Your logic and reasoning are shit. Its like saying Kid Kakashi and Kid Obito together isn't enough to take out that Rock Jonin, despite them being inferior to him individually.
No, my argument is that as long as the character is far superior in the field, it doesn't matter if you factor in the
nonexistent feats of the characters you are arguing with. When you are going to pull your head out of your ass and make an argument? Cause from post 1 all you have been doing is crying about how "2>1, so they win".
Kid Kakashi and Kid Obito have the skills to be able to overwhelm him 2 on 1 because the gap isn't massive. Naruto and Kabuto don't have the skills to overwhelm Hashirama 2 on 1. Let's not ***** about shit logic when your argument is essentially "There's two of them, so they win".
Guys, Konohamaru and Udon beat Hashirama in CQC because "lol 2 heads are better than 1". Haha. FOH.
If Hashirama blitzing is not what your claiming then fine. Now. Explain to me why someone who has faster strike speed then Raikage w/ the support of ghost punches, who is gaining help with a character who was portray Close quarters skill rival to Itachi (who = KCM Naruto CQC) which could copy the skills the Taijutsu users (Kimmi even without bones, or replicate what needed to be bones with Karate hand chops and Arhat Fist style) isnt enough to take out someone who's CQC skill rivals Madara.
P.S Im striping up irrelevant strawmans at this point too.
If you could read then you wouldn't just now be stating the bold. But like I said, I already know how you operate. All this strawmanning and shit logic was expected from the jump.
-Faster strike speed than Raikage is irrelevant because Raikage's striking speed isn't fast. Suigetsu intercepted him from 5-10m away when he was about to kill Sasuke. Irrelevant point. Especially irrelevant since Hashirama matches Madara in Base, let alone Sage Mode. Ghost punches are irrelevant because Hashirama can see his "ghost" punches.
-Except 1 clash isn't enough to put them as equals in CQC. Hashirama and Madara are put as equals because their Taijutsu/CQC fight is shown and implied to be far more dragged out than a simple clash. At the beginning and the end of their fight. So Kabuto doesn't even have a feat for you to reference here. Just more wank.
-Kimimaro's CQC ability is worthless without his bones. Never mention him again.
-The arhat fist style is just shoulder, leg and palm thrusts. Tell me how that speaks for Kabuto's CQC ability? Oh wait, don't bother. Because it doesn't.
-Equal to KCM Naruto? Who was getting overwhelmed by Obito?
Yeah. No. :lol.
And no, Hashirama's CQC ability far surpasses Madara. I'll state it one more time since it's clear you haven't been following along:
SM Hashirama>Base Hashirama=EMS Madara.
P.S: You are just using the same shit logic you always use since it's clear to me, you and anyone reading this argument that you have no real argument to present.
Like I said. You don't even have an argument. All you can do is list feats, ask me stupid questions, and then cry when no one agrees with your argument. (one that you don't even have)
@Bold Why would I do that to what I never claimed? Go read back to my claims. Feats shows its dead equal.
Except feats don't show anything. And I see you're finally done arguing that Base Hashirama=SM Hashirama=EMS Madara in CQC. :lol
Dumb clowns these days.
