The "protective layer" of skin that can easily be teared off and replace[
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That is completely irrelevant. So no Orochimaru being able to remove that layer changes the fact that it's the only reason his actual face wasn't ripped off? :lol Get this shit logic out of here pal. Hashirama would tank the punches that she was using on Oro and Kabuto considering:
1. She was rusty.
2. Her seal wasn't even on half the time, thus her physical ability is far inferior to what it normally would be. INb4 you cry for evidence, just go look at Sakura pre seal and post seal.
Worst case Kabuto's scales acts as this protective layer skin[
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No, they don't. Just more horseshit you pulled out of your ass. Like I said, nothing but wank for your fav. His scales are his skin now, thus when they get damaged, he gets damaged.
Please don't ever compare it to Orochimaru who has a layer of skin on his face that is actually protecting his real face. Orochimaru is not durable. Not a single part of his body is durable. The only reason he survived is because he had "2 faces". Does Kabuto have 2 faces? No. Does Kabuto have Orochimaru's body? No. So stop being a moron for just one second and start using logic, if possible.
@Bold Except. You. Need. To. Read. What. Was. Said.
"Commanding high-level ninja healing arts, he can heal wounds even without making hand gestures."
"His body itself brimming with vitality, those with Hashirama's cells have heightened healing ability."
"To this day, there is no ninja existing who surpasses his power." <-- This implies what was addressed above.
Only you, making up your own context. A body itself brimming with vitality and heal wounds even without making hand gestures is why Kishimoto thinks no one surpasses his ability to heal. You take that out of context, you end up saying that implies to rikudou characters too. So follow the context properly and follow the feats shown in the manga properly.
Lmfao. Not gonna bother with this point. It's irrelevant either way. The main point here is that Kabuto's healing is inferior.
Thats more impressive for Kabuto considering Itachi needs Kenjutsu can to physically encounter Kabuto bare hands. And when a hit actually connect Itachi gets bisected.
Which says nothing about his CQC ability, only his strength. What's even funnier is that he was using chakra scalpel there. But if you cared to read the Manga instead of wanking, you'd know this. Don't worry Ej.
:lol. Maybe you need to go back into my sig. Gojo>Juubidama, now Kabuto can clash with Sasuke's blade wielded by Itachi......using his bare hands? He can bisect Itachi using his bare hands?
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Oh, what's that? Proof that EjBlack knows that chakra scalpel was used when he clashed with Kusanagi and when he bisected Itachi? Smh. What do we have here? EjBlack claiming the complete opposite despite knowing he's wrong?
More strawman. I never claimed Hashirama gets overwhelmed.
By saying he can't take them both, you are saying he gets overwhelmed by them both. Either that or you are saying is a stalemate, which is even more baseless than claiming he loses.
I didn't resort of using feats to show they are equal to Hashirama.
Lol which is why your argument is shit.
I used their feats they have shown alone, is enough to take him together. Regardless if I mention the feats of SM Naruto encounter in CQC and Kabuto. You still still bring the points that Hashirama feats are better.
If you weren't too busy being an idiot, you'd know that defensive feats from Naruto doesn't translate to his offensive ability. Itachi and Kabuto not fighting in CQC doesn't translate to Kabuto's offensive prowess.
So the one going in circles is you. As you think Kabuto feats against Sasuke and Itachi stats or Naruto CQC against Raikage3 and reaction to Blind Madara combine is not enough to take out Hashirama. While I dont understand how being able to = Madara somehow = explain both Madara and Hashirama overwhelming them both in Taijutsu battle
Let me explain briefly how a fight works kiddo. Tell me more about how him BARELY REACTING TO BLIND MADARA means that he can actively take someone out in CQC? Did you wank too hard and forget that CQC is defense and offense? Did you wank too hard and forget that Naruto can react to top speed Ay in KCM, yet Itachi is perfectly capable of stalemating him. :lol All you are proving is that Hashirama won't blitz him with no reaction, which isn't what you should be proving as no one claimed that.
Then we have Kabuto, who never engaged in CQC in the first place. Quit wanking this guy. It's getting pretty annoying. You don't have an argument. Please stop. In fact, there is no good argument for the opposition from anyone on this thread. None at all. And it's because neither of these guys have any good CQC feats. You'd struggle to say they fight EMS Madara in CQC and win, who is on par with Base Hashirama, let alone Sage Hashirama.
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Then I'll wait for you to prove it's better than Byakugo.
Straw man again. I wouldnt be arguing that SM is superior to Madara if thats my claim.
Except your actual argument in the text disagrees. Lol. If you thought that SM Hashirama>Madara in this area, then you wouldn't be stupidly sitting here claiming that they are equal.
If you were to draw a conclusion on my claim it would be that
Edo Madara tagged Hashirama more base by feats. the process would be reversed when in SM, based on the feats.
Edo Madara had a weapon. Hashirama didn't. Nice try. If two people are dead equal in CQC, as Base Hashirama and EMS Madara were, while both wielding weapons, what in the hell do you think happens when one guy loses his weapons? Oh wait, I know!
-The one without the weapons
LOSES. Simple logic. Let's use it.
The same thing happened to Alive SM Madara. He got tagged by Sasuke due to the lack of a weapon. If he had a weapon he would've embarrassed Sasuke.
SM>Base. Base Hashirama shown eventually losing the match.
No, he was shown to be dead equals at VoTE. If all you can do is ignore this and continue with flawed examples, then you are showing me why I think you are an illogical wanker and why I will continue to view and reply to you like I'd reply to an illogical wanker.
SM isn't enough to gain advantage against Madara shown.
Thus you dont make a shred of sense.
Then you ignore the fact that you don't even have proof that SM Hashirama and EMS Madara fought in CQC, while there are 2 panels evidence that EMS Madara and Base Hashirama fight equal in CQC. I honestly wonder if you people THINK before you actually post some of this BS. I already know how this argument will end. You'll end up saying "oh lol I was grasping" and all that jazz.
