No, the point is. Orochimaru isn't durable. The only reason his main face was unscathed is because he had a protective layer on his face. The rest of his body is nothing special.
The "protective layer" of skin that can easily be teared off and replace[
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Manga never once said that. Unless Kabuto somehow learned how to take people's bodies and is now using a separate layer of skin as a makeshift face, you have no point.
Worst case Kabuto's scales acts as this protective layer skin[
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What are you talking about? No limb was severed for them to be put back together. The tip (or bottom?) of the snake was split in half, and it came back together. That's a wound. Not a bruise though, so I'll admit I was wrong about it only healing a bruise.
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Please. Read. Before. You. Reply. DB says that the people with his cells have a heightened healing ability, not that they possess his healing factor as it is when he uses it. The DB says that his healing ability is superior to all others. Simple as that. The fact you are trying to imply that the ability itself is good because others have it only shows me that you can't properly comprehend the context of the DB, which isn't even hard to understand.
@Bold Except. You. Need. To. Read. What. Was. Said.
"Commanding high-level ninja healing arts,
he can heal wounds even without making hand gestures."
"His body
itself brimming with vitality,
those with Hashirama's cells have heightened healing ability."
"To this day, there is no ninja existing who surpasses his power." <-- This implies what was addressed above.
Only you, making up your own context. A body itself brimming with vitality and heal wounds even without making hand gestures is why Kishimoto thinks no one surpasses his ability to heal. You take that out of context, you end up saying that implies to rikudou characters too. So follow the context properly and follow the feats shown in the manga properly.
Kabuto never faced Itachi in CQC without the support of a weapon, and when he did, it was a single clash. Nothing more, nothing less. SM Naruto being able to react to Madara's hand says jack shit about his CQC prowess and I shouldn't have had to state that, but I did because you are clearly grasping at whatever straws you can find. Which is the usual for you when it comes to arguments involving your fav.
Thats more impressive for Kabuto considering Itachi needs Kenjutsu can to physically encounter Kabuto bare hands. And when a hit actually connect Itachi gets bisected.
Hashirama trashes them both. He's far superior to them in all areas of combat and it's not even close considering you've resorted to using feats that have nothing to do with Naruto's offensive CQC prowess as evidence that Hashirama gets overwhelmed. Hurr 2>1 hurr blah blah blah isn't going to cut it.
More strawman. I never claimed Hashirama gets overwhelmed.
I didn't resort of using feats to show they are equal to Hashirama. I used their feats they have shown alone, is enough to take him together. Regardless if I mention the feats of SM Naruto encounter in CQC and Kabuto. You still still bring the points that Hashirama feats are better.
So the one going in circles is you. As you think Kabuto feats against Sasuke and Itachi stats or Naruto CQC against Raikage3 and reaction to Blind Madara combine is not enough to take out Hashirama. While I dont understand how being able to = Madara somehow = explain both Madara and Hashirama overwhelming them both in Taijutsu battle
Um he replaced Uzamaki auto regen with his own jutsu? Why the hell would he study and imply it to himself when has something superior already Lol?[
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Are you done with the nonsense arguments? Base Hashirama needs Ninjutsu to beat EMS Madara in CQC because they are dead fucking equals in this area, as shown in canon. Lol this guy is actually sitting here claiming that EMS Madara=SM Hashirama=Base Hashirama in CQC.
Straw man again. I wouldnt be arguing that SM is superior to Madara if thats my claim.
If you were to draw a conclusion on my claim it would be that
Edo Madara tagged Hashirama more base by feats. the process would be reversed when in SM, based on the feats.
Nope. SM Hashirama>Base Hashirama. Base Hashirama was shown to equal EMS Madara at the beginning of the fight. They were also shown to equal each other at the very end of the fight, when both were completely exhausted. Thus you don't make a shred of sense.
SM>Base. Base Hashirama shown eventually losing the match.
SM isn't enough to gain advantage against Madara shown.
Thus you dont make a shred of sense.
