[Misconception]Sasuke never surpassed Madara.

[Ootoriyu Jin]

I agree, Madara shits on my fav. Even as Naruto fan i should admit this bitter truth.

You're the only one I seen admitted that, here's a rep.

 

[Jokule67]

read the manga. attacks containing rikudous chakra can harm limbo as sasuke stated hence he said he would use it when he made his chidori black. guess who has rikudous chakra? sasuke. guess what soosano is? thats right, the users chakra manifestation meaning its being powered by the rikudous chakra sasuke has, same chakra in attacks that can harm limbo. narutos clones were fighting them with what? taijutsu? rikudou v3 soosano rapes and carves them part, like i said non factor.

I already know this thats why I mentioned Six Paths Chakra. However he cannot fuse that with his bare Susano'o if he could he would have wrecked Kaguya but he cannot. Even Kakashi was limited to only a Six Paths Chidori. Sasuke bare attacks cannot harm Limbo as he is not Senjutsu powered that is why Naruto had to combat them. Go reread and you got your answer. As a matter of fact...here you

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

And in the end that SINGLE Limbo shadow had to be sealed(blocked movemnent) it was never even killed. Chidori didnt even pierce it.

Sasuke says you cannot physically hurt them but a Sux Paths Sage Attack Does thats why Naruto can casually do battle with one. Sasuke cannot handle multiple Limbo.

Oh and just so you understand Six Paths Senjutsu>Six Path Power. Sasukes main strength is his Doujutsu Rinnegan thats the whole point of this series body/eyes.

 

[Dantee]

TY Sasuke solos

 

[Dantee]

Guys remember in the Boruto movie Sasuke reproduced the BPS without the extra Biju

Quality over Quantity after all

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Adult Sasuke dominates 2R JJ Madara in power, and parallels or slightly edges out 3 eye Madara. Madara wins due to higher chakra reserves (outlasts Sasuke) and immortality though.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Jokule67;19886777]I already know this thats why I mentioned Six Paths Chakra. However he cannot fuse that with his bare Susano'o if he could he would have wrecked Kaguya but he cannot.

he doesnt need to fuse anything, the whole of soosano is made with his chakra so any attack from it is basically an attack with rikudous chakra.
him not hitting kaguya is testament to her power and nothing to do with whether he can fuse his six paths chakra with soosano or not

Even Kakashi was limited to only a Six Paths Chidori.

what? were was that stated? he simply used raikiri with rikudous chakra, how did you come up with this limit bullshit?

bare attacks cannot harm Limbo as he is not Senjutsu powered that is why Naruto had to combat them. Go reread and you got your answer. As a matter of fact...here you

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

And in the end that SINGLE Limbo shadow had to be sealed(blocked movemnent) it was never even killed. Chidori didnt even pierce it.

naruto combatting them=/=sasuke cannot combat them. he needed to simply help take care of the incoming meteors, he cant do that and fight limbo at the same time, its either one or the other for him. six paths chakrad attacks can harm them fact, sasuke has the chakra so it applies to him
i know bare attacks cant harm them, whats your point? sasuke can fuse his attakcs with rikudous chakra so moot point. wrong

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

you can clearly see chidori paralyzing it, curled around it.

Sasuke says you cannot physically hurt them but a Sux Paths Sage Attack Does thats why Naruto can casually do battle with one.

and sasuke has six paths chakra, so once again what is your point?

Sasuke cannot handle multiple Limbo.

yes he can, with soosano he rapes them.

Spoiler

Oh and just so you understand Six Paths Senjutsu>Six Path Power. Sasukes main strength is his Doujutsu Rinnegan thats the whole point of this series body/eyes.

urrmm ok way to go off topic. not sure what this has to do with the topic.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I am not talking about versus scenario but in general.

Sasuke main power is Rinnegan which Madara had in both eyes + with Rikudo senjutsu as buff his Rinnegan potential sh1ts on anything Sasuke can offer as shown with their CT.

Madara have Rikudo senjutsu power which Sasuke doesn´t have at all.

Madara is nigh immortal and have amazing regeneration while Sasuke doesn´t have anything of those.

Madara has Mokuton while Sasuke don´t.

JJ Madara chakra reserves sh1ts on any version of Sasuke reserves.

Madara have third eye Rinne Sharingan which allows him to one shot 99,9999 % of NV. and he can make world scale Mokuton to entangle IT victims

Some of your points are valid, but you're mostly just pitting Madara's quantity against Sasuke which would mostly overlap in any practical application. Madara having more jutsus neither means that Madara is stronger nor does it mean that Madara can use all of them at one time. He can only use one or two jutsus at once, and Sasuke has prevailing counters for their nature, quantity and magnitude.

Madara has both RSM and Rinnegan (2 powers). But Sasuke's Rinnegan (1 power) can counter them both individually. So just having more quantity does not mean Madara is stronger.

well to be fair to sasuke,only those who have stolen his abilities can surpass Hashirama.The dude's a god

So what does this mean? Sasuke stole Hashi's abilities? Or Hashi is stronger than Sasuke? Either way, you're wrong.

Sasuke or Naruto would never be on Hagoromo's level. Hagoromo is Naruto and Sasuke +++. Sasuke's rinnegan might be on Hagoromo's level, but due to not having the Sage's chakra, he'd never reach Hagoromo's level.

@bold

Sasuke can transport with his rinnegan while Madara uses limbo. Both have their own merits and demerits. Like Sasuke need a partner to hit transported Madara.



BPS is not something sasuke do alone. He needs Narito. Don't forget Madara also used BPS against Hashirama.


Six path power, six path senjutsu, don't confuse yourself. Madara has both

@underlined False.

@red That's Iso Susanoo. Not BPS.

I know many of them realise that JJ Madara is logically stronger but don´t have feats to confirm that.

So they are simply trolling and defending their favorite and using everything in order to not lose internet argument.

@bold There is nothing that makes him "logically" stronger.

If you think about it its pretty clear :

Hagoromo gave power to both Naruto and Sasuke which means one of them is not enough

Hagoromo give them seals together with half of his power which means he knew even with his power they can´t kill him.

Kaguya needed strongest possible person as vessel and She chose Madara instead those 2.

Madara clearly said he have both of their power in one body this alone is enough.

Your view is "top view". Switch to "3D view" then you'll understand this. In other words, widen your perspective and look from multiple angles as your understanding is limited. And some of your reasoning is just cringe-worthy.

Sasuke did indeed surpass Madara. However like Sasuke said he is a relic of the past. That is the Madara Sasuke has surpassed. Sasuke hasnt a SINGLE chance of defeating JJ Madara. And you know this. So please admit it and stop being biased.

Teen Rinnegan Sasuke < 2R JJ Madara
Adult Sasuke > 2R JJ Madara

Exactly. Sasuke going toe to toe with a real Otsutsuki (which are incredible beings), is enough to settle this... lets face it Kinshiki is a beast and if it wasn't for Ameno Sasuke would've been screwed.

@bold Not really. Sasuke's foot speed and Shunshin is on par with an enough for Kinshiki. Sasuke only chose to use Ameno at that time.

OP point is that VOTE2 Sasukes Bijuu Susanoo is tronger than JJ Madara. In strength and sheer chakra power this may be true but he did NOT surpass Juubi Jin Madara and cannot beat him adult or teen. Juubi Jin Madara would wreck both Momo and Kishi with ease. They dont come close to a Complete Juubi Jinchuriki.

@bold LOL. WTF? Momoshiki+Kinshiki > JJ Madara easily.

To be fair, Naruto basically became a pseudo juubi Jin, and Sasuke was basically Hagoromo (pre juubi jin)

Kinda accurate...

 

[Reboryushon]

@bold Not really. Sasuke's foot speed and Shunshin is on par with an enough for Kinshiki. Sasuke only chose to use Ameno at that time.

This is subjective. I see Sasuke resourcing to Ameno as a mean to not get ultimately slashed ny Kinshiki. Your interpretation of things vs mine.. its cool 'tho, we are all human (some of us at least).

 

[WalksInShadows]

No it just shows how easily you take a bait.
Funny how lower class member try to act all tough though.
Good Job keep it going.

whatever helps you feel better about yourself dude

You must be registered for see images

 

[Dantee]

read the manga. attacks containing rikudous chakra can harm limbo as sasuke stated hence he said he would use it when he made his chidori black. guess who has rikudous chakra? sasuke. guess what soosano is? thats right, the users chakra manifestation meaning its being powered by the rikudous chakra sasuke has, same chakra in attacks that can harm limbo. narutos clones were fighting them with what? taijutsu? rikudou v3 soosano rapes and carves them part, like i said non factor.

REkt. Limbo wankers don't even know how limbo workssmh

 

[Jokule67]

To OP. Momo and Kinshiki were trying to get the kyuubi. JJ Madara has ALL bijuu including Six Paths Senjutsu. He literally uses the world for his power. After getting his Second Rinnegan he swatted everyone away like a fly. Momo and Kinshiki dont stand a chance against JJ Madara and his abilities and damn near endless power he would laugh and destroy them. They wouldnt know what hitem.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

This is subjective. I see Sasuke resourcing to Ameno as a mean to not get ultimately slashed ny Kinshiki. Your interpretation of things vs mine.. its cool 'tho, we are all human (some of us at least).

Not opposing your opinion, but subjectivity could be supported with reasoning. If Sasuke has the speed and reflexes on par with Kinshiki i.e. the ability to evade Kinshiki's attack, and also has the knowledge of Kinshiki's incoming attack (which he did), I see no reason why he can't evade the attack with foot speed like he did throughout the fight.

 

[thelordza]

You must be registered for see images

If he did something on Hagoromo's Lvl we can well assume that he is on his Lvl.
Also, Madara's Body Power advantage loses its meaning, since Sasuke equalizes
the body aspect with his BPS.

When narurto a child he learn the rasengan 4hokage justu was naruto near the 4hokage level no

 

[Dantee]

Sasuke is god.

 

[Jokule67]

If Sasuke can get the power of the bijuu again and obtain hagaromo's sage mode he will be more powerful than jj madara.

 

[Hyuuga Monrose]

I thought this was obvious tbh

 

[Dantee]

Not opposing your opinion, but subjectivity could be supported with reasoning. If Sasuke has the speed and reflexes on par with Kinshiki i.e. the ability to evade Kinshiki's attack, and also has the knowledge of Kinshiki's incoming attack (which he did), I see no reason why he can't evade the attack with foot speed like he did throughout the fight.

What's funny is that Sasuke didn't even use chidori blade in their first clash but when he went to save naruto his rikudou blade broke his weapon in one swing rofl.

 

[DHOH]

If Sasuke can get the power of the bijuu again and obtain hagaromo's sage mode he will be more powerful than jj madara.

Sasuke won't ever be as powerful as Madara but his skills are just as advanced. Madara win for one reason, immortatilty.

 

[Jokule67]

Sasuke won't ever be as powerful as Madara but his skills are just as advanced. Madara win for one reason, immortatilty.

I agree although double rinnegan jj maddy would stomp them as kids, they made his one eyed version retreat. The Adult versions are finely tuned fighters with unparralled instinct. Especially Sasuke. He is an Uchiha destined to surpass Madara. The REAL one that is. Not the white abomination that ruined my fav. I feel like Adult sasuke has shown more than enough skill to put him equal past Madara in Uchiha Skill. But only Adult Sasuke.

 

[Jokule67]

What's funny is that Sasuke didn't even use chidori blade in their first clash but when he went to save naruto his rikudou blade broke his weapon in one swing rofl.

I coulda sworn that was kagutsuchi but okay