[Discussion] Does God have a plan?

[FreakensteinAG]

The magnetic field is the conductor then

Magnetic fields are not conductors. Magnetic fields are vehicles for gravity and matter to travel. No, you're not allowed to change your analogy a third time to say "the magnetic field is a vehicle then".

The electrons are using it as a means to conduct themselves.

Electrons do not conduct themselves.

God is the most moral man in the universe.

No, no he is not. We have some bad people in our world, but not even the worst of our humans killed off the entire planet (or so was stated in the book he tells us to read).

He is not like us. He is not controlled by emotion.

This is probably why he is far from the most moral "man" in the universe. What do we call people who isn't controlled by emotions? Psychopaths.
"individuals suffering from alexithymia also have difficulty in distinguishing and appreciating the emotions of others, which is thought to lead to unempathic and ineffective responses"

So when God decided to kill off the entire planet? Didn't feel a thing. He's more moral than all of us, guys!

To say God isnt moral is blasphemy. Im questioning if you belive in him now

"How dare you say something bad about God! You're a blasphemer and shall be crucified just like what we do to other blasphemers, which also just happens to be what happened to our prophet...."

Let me ask you a fourth time. How in God's name do you know God's plan? It is a simple goddamned question. You either know it or you don't, sweetie.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Not quite. It's not a globally accepted phenomenon also. (Although certain Natural ingrediënts prevent and fight certain diseases like cancer but are not profittable for pharmaceutical giants..that'S another topic)
It's, for example, diminishing the amount of stress and dense/heavy feeling in an individual by simply projecting the "message" you want to share with the subject simply by intent. In my opinion, god is the human Brain and it holds untouched capabilities waiting to be 'tapped' into to reach higher levels of self-awareness and a sense of freedom.

This all must sound like mumbo jumbo to you as it did to me until I experienced certain things. This isn't something you can belief in, it has to 'happen'. plenty intention experiments I conducteur myself with other hyper-sensitive individuals that 99% of the time showed resuLts. I could be on the phone, icebearing through the livingroom and suddenly get a flood of warmth in/through my chest, grounding me, freezing me in my step, making me drop my phone when a friend (abroad) focussed on me during a meditation.

^ simple example

That's a globally accepted and scientifically acknowledged Phenomena.

It's called The Placebo Effect.

 

[Multiply]

I never said it can't be. Just asked if that's what y'all believe. :wesobi:

Your last question is unbelievably facetious, but okay, I'll bite. My proof that conscience (or consciousness).... is mixed in the universe.... IS THAT IT EXISTS... IN THE UNIVERSE!

:wesobi:

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That makes no sense.

 

[YowYan]

That's a globally accepted and scientifically acknowledged Phenomena.

It's called The Placebo Effect.

Feel free to stay ignorant. I could refute, but in the end you'd need to experience it to be able to have a legitimate opinion on intention healing.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Not quite. It's not a globally accepted phenomenon also. (Although certain Natural ingrediënts prevent and fight certain diseases like cancer but are not profittable for pharmaceutical giants..that'S another topic)
It's, for example, diminishing the amount of stress and dense/heavy feeling in an individual by simply projecting the "message" you want to share with the subject simply by intent. In my opinion, god is the human Brain and it holds untouched capabilities waiting to be 'tapped' into to reach higher levels of self-awareness and a sense of freedom.

This all must sound like mumbo jumbo to you as it did to me until I experienced certain things. This isn't something you can belief in, it has to 'happen'. plenty intention experiments I conducteur myself with other hyper-sensitive individuals that 99% of the time showed resuLts. I could be on the phone, icebearing through the livingroom and suddenly get a flood of warmth in/through my chest, grounding me, freezing me in my step, making me drop my phone when a friend (abroad) focussed on me during a meditation.

^ simple example

I'm very skeptical to these types of things. I've heard of a lot of different things like this and a lot of times it's a lady trying to sell a product or gather a following. I'll look into it.

Magnetic fields are not conductors. Magnetic fields are vehicles for gravity and matter to travel. No, you're not allowed to change your analogy a third time to say "the magnetic field is a vehicle then".



Electrons do not conduct themselves.



No, no he is not. We have some bad people in our world, but not even the worst of our humans killed off the entire planet (or so was stated in the book he tells us to read).



This is probably why he is far from the most moral "man" in the universe. What do we call people who isn't controlled by emotions? Psychopaths.
"individuals suffering from alexithymia also have difficulty in distinguishing and appreciating the emotions of others, which is thought to lead to unempathic and ineffective responses"

So when God decided to kill off the entire planet? Didn't feel a thing. He's more moral than all of us, guys!



"How dare you say something bad about God! You're a blasphemer and shall be crucified just like what we do to other blasphemers, which also just happens to be what happened to our prophet...."

Let me ask you a fourth time. How in God's name do you know God's plan? It is a simple goddamned question. You either know it or you don't, sweetie.

I believe morality is for us. God can screw us over all he wants and he doesn't have to feel a thing, after all, if he's the ultimate creator, what's wrong or right is also part of his creation.

Feel free to stay ignorant. I could refute, but in the end you'd need to experience it to be able to have a legitimate opinion on intention healing.

What if you try and try but never feel it? Would my opinion be legitimate?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

I believe morality is for us. God can screw us over all he wants and he doesn't have to feel a thing, after all, if he's the ultimate creator, what's wrong or right is also part of his creation.

This is why we must question ourselves. Why is it that we even bother worshipping someone less moral than us? He's supposed to be a paragon of becoming better for ourselves. Although now that you think about it, a book compiling the crimes of someone would be a good way to tell your children "don't be like this man".

 

[ANiMUS]

If u mean the Christian god then no he doesn't make set plans, he has a purpose and because he doesn't use a set plan it is impossible for him to fail. His purpose can go any route he wills in order to be fulfilled.

Somehow I think that purpose is not the word I am looking for though

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I'm very skeptical to these types of things. I've heard of a lot of different things like this and a lot of times it's a lady trying to sell a product or gather a following. I'll look into it.


I believe morality is for us. God can screw us over all he wants and he doesn't have to feel a thing, after all, if he's the ultimate creator, what's wrong or right is also part of his creation.

If morals don't apply to god, why would he create them? He should lead by example, otherwise he just comes off as a child throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get sweets. Or worship, i guess.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

This is why we must question ourselves. Why is it that we even bother worshipping someone less moral than us? He's supposed to be a paragon of becoming better for ourselves. Although now that you think about it, a book compiling the crimes of someone would be a good way to tell your children "don't be like this man".

I think the ultimate gift is life, though, and what can you do if you don't like the ultimate creator? Rebel? I don't wanna go to hell.

If morals don't apply to god, why would he create them? He should lead by example, otherwise he just comes off as a child throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get sweets. Or worship, i guess.

He creates life, and takes it away. That's the order of things. I can't change that. I can choose not to believe it but I do.

If the question of which religion should we follow or if there is any at all, is pushed aside. What God does for us is very generous. Gives us life, eternal happiness if we follow him and eternal sorrow if we don't, simple.

The tricky parts are finding the right religion.

 

[Angelic.]

yes. to troll people who say its gods will for them to get elected and such
and to appear after satan rules the world and defeat him in battle xD

 

[FreakensteinAG]

I never said it can't be. Just asked if that's what y'all believe. :wesobi:

Your last question is unbelievably facetious, but okay, I'll bite. My proof that conscience (or consciousness).... is mixed in the universe.... IS THAT IT EXISTS... IN THE UNIVERSE!

:wesobi:

That's Circular Reasoning. It exists because it exists? That's 100% fallacious.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

I think the ultimate gift is life, though, and what can you do if you don't like the ultimate creator? Rebel? I don't wanna go to hell.


He creates life, and takes it away. That's the order of things. I can't change that. I can choose not to believe it but I do.

That's ultimately up to you, and I respect that. Freedom of Speech rules brah

 

[ComplexCity]

If morals don't apply to god, why would he create them? He should lead by example, otherwise he just comes off as a child throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get sweets. Or worship, i guess.

Bold makes like zero sense

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

the only thing I have against islam is this marrying your first cousin shit and the whole rat people are messengers from god. rat people being inbreeds and have small heads. you know that muslims have by far the highest still born rates and birth defects and something like 60% are married to their cousin. im telling you I did a paper on it in college look it up my numbers are off but its ridiculous the amount of inbreeding going on, and in poorer Muslim countries like Pakistan its encouraged to imbreed in order to have a higher chance of creating something they call a rat person which will bring the family money. also look up the serpent child born in Saudi Arabia they were worshipping it and it was so deformed it was frightening. trust me im not grouping all muslims together but these are facts

You know nothing of Islam. What the hell is a rat person? And worshiping any thing other than God is a MAJOR sin. This post was pretty dumb to be honest. These are not facts.

The cousin thing is true, however, if you knew much about genetics, you'd know that there is more of a harm in having 40 year old+ parents giving birth than two cousins having a child. Incest only truly starts to have defects, the more inbred a child is. Even a mother son relationship (which is a sin in Islam) wouldn't have immediate defects. And these defects are just recessive diseases having increased chances of occurring.

You probably couldn't even tell the difference between a Hindu and a Muslim.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Bold makes like zero sense

Actually, it does in a sense. If morals separate right from wrong, good from evil, as God intended and made so, then they'd apply to God as well because is capable of right and wrong.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Somebody wake me when BillyMac comes out of hiding. The only people who claim to know of God's plan are prophets, and he damn well better be a good prophet to try and put scientific laws into religious analogies.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

the only thing I have against islam is this marrying your first cousin shit and the whole rat people are messengers from god. rat people being inbreeds and have small heads. you know that muslims have by far the highest still born rates and birth defects and something like 60% are married to their cousin. im telling you I did a paper on it in college look it up my numbers are off but its ridiculous the amount of inbreeding going on, and in poorer Muslim countries like Pakistan its encouraged to imbreed in order to have a higher chance of creating something they call a rat person which will bring the family money. also look up the serpent child born in Saudi Arabia they were worshipping it and it was so deformed it was frightening. trust me im not grouping all muslims together but these are facts

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Notice how India was number 1 yet Muslims make up only 13% of the population there?

 

[Lance171]

You know nothing of Islam. What the hell is a rat person? And worshiping any thing other than God is a MAJOR sin. This post was pretty dumb to be honest. These are not facts.

The cousin thing is true, however, if you knew much about genetics, you'd know that there is more of a harm in having 40 year old+ parents giving birth than two cousins having a child. Incest only truly starts to have defects, the more inbred a child is. Even a mother son relationship (which is a sin in Islam) wouldn't have immediate defects. And these defects are just recessive diseases having increased chances of occurring.

You probably couldn't even tell the difference between a Hindu and a Muslim.

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and the difference between hindu and a Muslim? that's so simple its ridiculous for one hindu was created in india and they worship many gods and have nothing to do with the old testament wich the bible Koran, and the torah all utilize these three are basically the same except the believe in different messiahs as in the bible=jesus Koran=Muhammad and torah= moses. Hinduism is completely different

 

[ComplexCity]

Actually, it does in a sense. If morals separate right from wrong, good from evil, as God intended and made so, then they'd apply to God as well because is capable of right and wrong.

Ok so when does God display evil? I'll wait you tried making sense of the bible before and we all know how that turned out

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

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and the difference between hindu and a Muslim? that's so simple its ridiculous for one hindu was created in india and they worship many gods and have nothing to do with the old testament wich the bible Koran, and the torah all utilize these three are basically the same except the believe in different messiahs as in the bible=jesus Koran=Muhammad and torah= moses. Hinduism is completely different

Okay, fortunately you do know the difference. But the rat people messenger thing is a Cultural belief at best, and contradicts the teachings of the Qur'an (Koran).