Transgender Woman Sent Back To Male Prison Despite Appeal

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Science and Biology, both you and I know the answer to that
Obviously. What characteristics of science and biology, what specific traits of a woman differentiates her from a man?
 

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Obviously. What characteristics of science and biology, what specific traits of a woman differentiates her from a man?

I think Ira post already satisfied that answer but I'll expand a little bit

Which gender has the penis, male or female?

Note: Artificial anything is not real
 

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I think Ira post already satisfied that answer but I'll expand a little bit

Which gender has the penis, male or female?

Note: Artificial anything is not real

I'm not asking Ira, I'm asking you. Stop dodging the question. What traits in a woman differentiates her from a man? Are you agreeing with Ira that it's the chromosomes? Are you saying it's the presence of genitalia that determines gender? Just gimme a list of traits, simple as that. I don't see why you're so scared to do so.
 

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Notice how I just gave you an answer. Read Riker READ GOSH DARN IT!

Okay, the presence of a vagina and the presence of a penis determines man and woman.

What about a man suffering from ? Should he be classified as not a man or woman because of the lack of a penis and testicles?

Or people with ? Are they now a third, hybrid ***?
 
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And I quote







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You literally made the point I was making the bold. What matters if he gets raped by men if men get raped in prison at a high rate? He's a man so that doesn't make him any different from any other man in that prison

He's more susceptible to molestation, but by your borrowed logic (from another member to use for your own) he matters not as countless men went before him and noone cares. So no exceptions are to be made, right? I guess that'S a painful Truth for that trans..

And it is true, the real issue is the lack of safety behind the bars for Any inmate anywhere, which in another thread I'd happily agree upon. But we're talking about a situation with a definite outcome. I'm trying to keep it on topic, but going by the point you borrowed elsewhere, regarding the issue from a collective perspectieve, i'd agree.
 

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Okay, the presence of a vagina and the presence of a penis determines man and woman.

What about a man suffering from ? Should he be classified as not a man or woman because of the lack of a penis and testicles?

lol at how hard you go to prove your bias

Unnatural things are illogical per dictionary definition, unless you agree being trans is illogical... opps. Does the man have a vagina which is one of the most distinctive ways to tell the differences between two sexes?
 

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He's more susceptible to molestation, but by your borrowed logic (from another member to use for your own) he matters not as countless men went before him and noone cares. So no exceptions are to be made, right? I guess that'S a painful Truth for that trans..

And it is true, the real issue is the lack of safety behind the bars for Any inmate anywhere, which in another thread I'd happily agree upon. But we're talking about a situation with a definite outcome. I'm trying to keep it on topic, but going by the point you borrowed elsewhere, regarding the issue from a collective perspectieve, i'd agree.

Sigh Yow, just stop please. I don't have the finger strength anymore:nosh:
What exceptions are to be made for a criminal? Why should he get special treatment? I like how you're talking so much about the trans but not the men who get raped in jail. Do women rape in jail yes or no?
 

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lol at how hard you go to prove your bias

Unnatural things are illogical per dictionary definition, unless you agree being trans is illogical... opps. Does the man have a vagina which is one of the most distinctive ways to tell the differences between two sexes?
You didn't answer my question. If being a man is determined by having a penis, then shouldn't men born with this defection not be considered something other than the *** of a man? The defection is a natural occurrence, it's not caused by artificial means or intervention of man.

So, let me get this straight. When you use biology and science and facts to back up your opinion, you're correct. But when I present you with something that is biology, factual, and science, it's "going far for bias?" If the only cases of biology you're accepting at ones that back your claim, then you're the biased one.
 

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You didn't answer my question. If being a man is determined by having a penis, then shouldn't men born with this defection not be considered something other than the *** of a man? The defection is a natural occurrence, it's not caused by artificial means or intervention of man.

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Does the man have a vagina which is one of the most distinctive ways to tell the differences between two sexes?

So, let me get this straight. When you use biology and science and facts to back up your opinion, you're correct. But when I present you with something that is biology, factual, and science, it's "going far for bias?" If the only cases of biology you're accepting at ones that back your claim, then you're the biased one.

Not really because you don't read. I answered your question in it's entirety.
 

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Not really because you don't read. I answered your question in it's entirety.

You didn't answer my question because that wasn't what I asked you. I didn't ask you if he was a woman, I asked if the lack of a penis mean he isn't a man, since having a penis is what constitutes being a man, as you claimed.
 

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You didn't answer my question because that wasn't what I asked you. I didn't ask you if he was a woman, I asked if the lack of a penis mean he isn't a man, since having a penis is what constitutes being a man, as you claimed.

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Does the man have a vagina which is one of the most distinctive ways to tell the differences between two sexes?
 

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Complex. I'm not asking you if he is a woman. I am asking you if he is still a man despite the lack of a penis. Read the original closely.

Okay, the presence of a vagina and the presence of a penis determines man and woman.

What about a man suffering from ? Should he be classified as not a man or woman because of the lack of a penis and testicles?

Or people with ? Are they now a third, hybrid ***?
 

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Complex. I'm not asking you if he is a woman. I am asking you if he is still a man despite the lack of a penis. Read the original closely.

Riker, use common sense, what are the only two sexs that can exist when being born? Barring being born a hermaphrodite
 

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Riker, use common sense, what are the only two sexs that can exist when being born? Barring being born a hermaphrodite

But, according to you, you absolutely have to have a penis to be male and a vagina to be female. So, there has to be more than two since there are people who are born with neither. What would we call them then since they fail to meet the criteria of either male or female?
 

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But, according to you, you absolutely have to have a penis to be male and a vagina to be female. So, there has to be more than two since there are people who are born with neither. What would we call them then since they fail to meet the criteria of either male or female?

Notice how I didn't say that's the only thing. I'm done debating with your Riker, nearly 18 pages and you don't get it. It doesn't matter what you say the fact is that he is a man. I have work in the morning
 

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Notice how I didn't say that's the only thing. I'm done debating with your Riker, nearly 18 pages and you don't get it. It doesn't matter what you say the fact is that he is a man. I have work in the morning

You actually did say only that. When I asked you list all of the things, you refused and only listed the presence of genitals. So, what are these other things then, which was my question in the first place? What other things aside from genitals constitute being a man and being a woman?
 

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1. The judge needs to spend a while in a prision.

2. Some of these comments I witnessed here... Geeze. I can't even form as entangle too discribe it...
 

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Why do people believe female inmates are less dangerous than male inmates again? Have you people been brainwashed this far?
 
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