Sasuke vs Gai, Obito, Kakashi, Minato

[onepieceuc1]

Poor Sasuke fanboys... The issue of democracy is that it lets stupid people think they are right... Teamwork>Sasuke in that case. Sasuke is stronger than each of his opponent but not enough to beat them all together.

 

[BLAZE]

Poor Sasuke fanboys... The issue of democracy is that it lets stupid people think they are right... Teamwork>Sasuke in that case. Sasuke is stronger than each of his opponent but not enough to beat them all together.

Cry me a river
@bold says the delusional fanboy who actually thinks Shikamaru will be factor in battle of Giants

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[KidGamer65]

Poor Sasuke fanboys... The issue of democracy is that it lets stupid people think they are right... Teamwork>Sasuke in that case. Sasuke is stronger than each of his opponent but not enough to beat them all together.

The only issue here is that stupid people (you) are allowed to post despite them being unable to form a coherent argument. I mean, on Kakashi's side we have:

-You saying that Shikamaru is a factor if he were added.
-Eng nawashi claiming that Kakashi=Madara=Obito=JJ Obito=Naruto=Sasuke=Hagoromo=JJ Hagoromo=Kaguya=Hamura=Tenseigan Hamura=Toneri in chakra power just because...

:lol Rikudo chakra

 

[onepieceuc1]

For someone who is saying unbelievable argument, I find this funny. How can I answer something as stupid as that? Learn logic first !

 

[Ripple Hole]

The Sasuke wank, looka dis.
DMS can send him to another dimension and makes him
weak as hell on return, Obito has TBs, Gai could most likely
break open PS and BSM Minato has the ability to redirect Sasuke's attacks.

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The fight ends in 6 steps
1. The fighters line up
2. Sasuke uses Ameno on Obito to teleport and suck his soul
3. Sasuke pulls out Susanoo
4. Minato is shat on by PS chidori
5. Kakashi is destroyed by multiple PS slashed
6. Gai is put under genjutsu

 

[Eng nawashi]

Stop being daft. No shit that any power far weaker than yours isn't going to do any good to you captain obvious. That isn't even relevant to the point so why are you wasting time mentioning it.

You saying sasuke chakra>>obito and kakashi thus it will still >> Thiers after receiving the same power up ,meaning you think of chakra boosts as multiplayer which is completely wrong .

Nope. It seems you aren't comprehending the language correctly. He says he feels it MORE. He never says he feels more. He feels it more from Madara because Madara's is stronger.

Stop twisting ,He feels it more because madara has more, smart ass.

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it is funny how you use MP to disprove colorkage viz translation.

:lol what? Are you kidding me? First you try to claim all Rikudo chakra is equal, then you try to claim that there isn't a huge gap when you literally have no evidence for anything you are claiming.

I never said all rikudo chakra that comes from different sources has the same potency
I guess you need to bring me statement that hagromo chakra is drastically stronger when it was already stated that JJ obito chakra rivals six paths sage chakraLol.

Manga disagrees with everything you are saying here. JJ Madara>>Obito in chakra power despite them both having the Juubi

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Nope

Kaguya>>JJ Madara, Sasuke, Naruto in chakra power despite Kaguya:

1. Being the Juubi.
2. Being the origin of Hagoromo's chakra, which is what Sasuke and Naruto received.

So by your logic, Kaguya=Madara=Naruto=Sasuke=Obito in chakra power, even though the Manga has already stated that Kaguya's chakra is far beyond anything ever seen in this Manga. Despite Minato outright stating that JJ Madara>Juubito in chakra power.

Kaguya has on top of jiubi IT chakra,we don't how potent is the combination of that ,kaguya has nothing to do with my point

Except that's not a Manga fact, at least not in the sense you think it is

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Obi to statement isnt a manga fact but your opinions and twists are Lol
You are funny but not funny enough Lol

Kinkaku and Ginkaku are canonically far weaker than KN6 despite them having chakra from the same being

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Irrelevant ,Kin and gin chakra potency being equal to kuarma whole chakra is a many a fact whether you like it or not

Not to mention all forms of Rikudo chakra aren't the same thing,

Ofc

then there's the fact that it boosts your existing power.

So let's cut the BS argumentation.

Addressed.

Terrible example for the reasons already stated. What's worse is that you didn't even address the reasons that make your argument completely false

Yhea because rikudo chakra potency would suddenly decrease by leaving madara Lol

Fanfiction at it's finest. Sasuke and Naruto got Hagoromo's chakra and they got the sealing tattoos for the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. When they used the tattoos, they lost the seals. They kept the halves of his chakra that he passed to them. Otherwise Naruto wouldn't have RSM or Gudo Dama at VoTE, which both require Hagoromo's power.

Nope .the seals is what had hagromo chakra unless if you think creating a moon sized CT doesn't cost you chakra Lol ,that explains why their chakra reserves didn't drop after creating a new moon ,if sasuke really had rikudo chakra ,his chidori would have been always black ,but it was only black when he said he would use six paths sage power
Nope ,pre JJ obito hadnt rikudo chakra yet he obtained RSM,Goudodama and Rikudo chakra by becoming ten tails Jin ,naruto having chakra from all the biju is the equivalent of becoming JJ ,that was already explained in shikamaru hiden,that is the reason of naruto having some rikudo chakra ,while sasuke have the one eyed Rinningan and its powerfull chakra,that explains alote of things actually ,too busy to mention it all Lol

I am currently busy don't hope a reply from me hahaha .I am not like you guys who have no real live and hfhvhvhvhvjvuf uvufhcLol
Just kidding but I am really busy because of exams

 

[KidGamer65]

You saying sasuke chakra>>obito and kakashi thus it will still >> Thiers after receiving the same power up ,meaning you think of chakra boosts as multiplayer which is completely wrong

No, they boost your existing power. That is fact. Weaker chakra being unable to boost far stronger chakra doesn't change the fact that the vice versa is true, so please don't mention it again.

Stop twisting ,He feels it more because madara has more, smart ass.

it is funny how you use MP to disprove colorkage viz translation.

Except that's not what he says. I suggest you learn how to read the English language and not force your own nonsense assumptions on others. He feels IT MORE. He never said he feels more.

Both translations say the same damn thing in different words.

I never said all rikudo chakra that comes from different sources has the same potency
I guess you need to bring me statement that hagromo chakra is drastically stronger when it was already stated that JJ obito chakra rivals six paths sage chakraLol.

That's exactly what you said. Sasuke and Kakashi's PS are equal because the chakra is equal. That is EXACTLY what you said. :lol.

And no, it was never stated that Obito's chakra strength rivals Rikudo Sennin's, only the amount and that's true because they both have the Juubi. Rikudo is still FAR stronger though (or are you going to claim that he is equal too?), just how Madara is still FAR stronger than Obito.

And no, proving that Hagoromo's chakra>>>>Juubi's is irrelevant when we aren't comparing them. We are comparing an empowered Sasuke's chakra to an empowered Kakashi's chakra.

But I expect you to keep on arguing retarded shit like "Juubito=JJ Hagoromo". :lol Fanboys never fail to make me cringe.

Kaguya has on top of jiubi IT chakra,we don't how potent is the combination of that ,kaguya has nothing to do with my point

Kaguya didn't have IT chakra in the past, she only had the chakra from the fruit, and she was stated to be superior to Hagoromo then, who is far superior to Madara. So no, she has everything to do with your point. That all Rikudo chakra is equal in strength.

Obi to statement isnt a manga fact but your opinions and twists are Lol
You are funny Lol

Except Kakashi=JJ Madara in chakra strength isn't a fact.

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Irrelevant ,Kin and gin chakra potency being equal to kuarma whole chakra is a many a fact whether you like it or not

Kin and Gin are irrelevant to the point anyway.

Yhea because rikudo chakra potency would suddenly decrease by leaving madara Lol

Irrelevant for reasons already explained. Maybe if you took your head out of Kakashi's pants and actually read before you posted, you'd realize that no one ever claimed this.

Nope .the seals is what had hagromo chakra unless if you think creating a moon sized CT doesn't cost you chakra Lol ,that explains why their chakra reserves didn't drop after creating a new moon ,if sasuke really had rikudo chakra ,his chidori would have been always black ,but it was only black when he said he would use six paths sage power
Nope ,pre JJ obito hadnt rikudo chakra yet he obtained RSM,Goudodama and Rikudo chakra by becoming ten tails Jin ,naruto having chakra from all the biju is the equivalent of becoming JJ ,that was already explained in shikamaru hiden,that the reason of naruto having some rikudo chakra ,while sasuke have the one eyed Rinningan and its powerfull chakra,that explains alote of things actually ,too busy to mention it all Lol

The bold is false. Them needing chakra to initiate Six Paths CT doesn't prove they lost that chakra for good, and the rest is irrelevant and doesn't even begin to prove your point. Sasuke's Susanoo changed in appearance and power after getting Hagoromo's power. Naruto's Avatar changed in appearance and power after getting Hagoromo's power. If they lost it, then it'd revert.

1. Read the Manga, because getting the Juubi is what grants you Hagoromo's power in the first place. So yes, Obito obviously had Rikudo's chakra. So did Madara, and that's how Kakashi got it.

2. Irrelevant. Having all the Bijuu=/=Having the Juubi. The Juubi is all 9 Bijuu fused into one. Completely different entity than the 9 Bijuu separated. DB already states that RSM was a gift from Hagoromo, thus it came with his power just how Sasuke's Rinnegan came with the power he got. And and all talk about the seals containing all their power should cease.

I am currently busy don't hope a reply from me hahaha .Jk but I am really busy not like you guys who has no real live and hfhvhvhvhvjvuf uvufhcLol

Coming from the guy who devotes a part of his time to worshiping a fictional character, this means nothing.

 

[Eng nawashi]

I'll blow this BS up when I get some free time ,now I am gonna worship kakashi for ten mins before going to bed .

 

[Bogard]

Either Kakashi or Minato solos. Poor match up

 

[Rιver]

Sasuke still kills them.

1. I can argue Gai not being able to penetrate Madara's PS and kill him in one go with his strongest tech. We can forget about him doing anything meaningful to Sasuke's Susanoo. Thus he becomes a non factor.

2. Obito would be forced to use Bijuu Dama or Shinju to beat Madara's PS, and Sasuke can cut down the tree before it charges the BD, and someone far weaker than him already one shotted the Shinju. Obito only becomes a factor if left unchecked. If Sasuke watches him the entire fight he literally can't do anything to hurt him.

3. Hiraishin's usefulness goes down when Minato won't even be able to properly react to Sasuke's attacks. Whether they are against him or his teammates. And he doesn't even have rikudo's power like Obito and Kakashi do. He's useless.

4. Kakashi is the closest thing to a threat here, but considering Sasuke's Susanoo is far stronger than his, actually has an offensive technique that rivals Bijuu Dama, but far far more focused, and has the abilities needed to deal with Kamui.

Ameno from the jump=The death of anyone who isn't Kakashi or Obito due to his regen, and that's only if he doesn't use it with his Susanoo, cause if he does, then Kamui is the only thing that lets Kakashi survive. PS then rips through Kakashi's PS and rips Gai, Obito and Minato to pieces. Any and all Kamui attempts are easily dodged.

Oooooooooooooo, them dislikes. KG you got beasted son.

 

[Ambivalence]

^ And all of them can't prove jack. One of them conceded. One of them thinks Kakashi or Gai can solo. The rest can't put up an argument to save their lives.

It'd be a problem if someone that actually mattered disliked that post.

Either Kakashi or Minato solos. Poor match up

Look at this crap. :lol These are the kind of people that are arguing here.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oooooooooooooo, them dislikes. KG you got beasted son.

^ And all of them can't prove jack. One of them conceded. One of them thinks Kakashi or Gai can solo. The rest can't put up an argument to save their lives.

It'd be a problem if someone that actually mattered disliked that post.



Look at this crap. :lol These are the kind of people that are arguing here.

Exactly this. Let them fanboys put up a real argument.

The Sasuke wank, looka dis.
DMS can send him to another dimension and makes him
weak as hell on return, Obito has TBs, Gai could most likely
break open PS and BSM Minato has the ability to redirect Sasuke's attacks.

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

I mean, look at this BS? :lol How am I supposed to take this seriously?

 

[Bogard]

Difference being my post was non serious unlike others from this thread(i didn't read the thread but i assume it tobe the case). I can at least notice gags and serious posts unlike someone Lol. Although i do think Rikudo Kakashi can win.

 

[Rιver]

Yeh I agree, Bogard you got some screws loose in your head. And so with rest of your boys.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

in vote 2 collecting that huge amount of Nature energy was Kurama feat not Naruto´s

.So nothing stops Kurama from doing it here.

That buff together with Kakashi PS would be superior to Sasuke susanoo

 

[KidGamer65]

in vote 2 collecting that huge amount of Nature energy was Kurama feat not Naruto´s

.So nothing stops Kurama from doing it here.

That buff together with Kakashi PS would be superior to Sasuke susanoo

Kurama+Naruto's RSM. :lol Stop.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Kurama+Naruto's RSM. :lol Stop.

Kurama + Naruto RSM = Bijuu PS not regular one.

All you use are biased asumptions without any proof so be kind and tell me exactly:

How much exactly chakra Sasuke have comapred to JJ Obito

-Hom much exactly is Sasuke PS stronger than Kakashi PS

-How much exactly RSM Naruto Bijuu dama is stronger than BM Naruto 5 Bijuu dama barrage

-Compare Hagoromo chakra to Juubi chakra.

-Hom much excatly is Rikudo PS stronger than TSB defence

-Where is stated that Kakashi´s susanoo needs to throw Kamui shuriken ? What stops him to hold it in his hand and hit Sasuke susanoo directly with it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kurama + Naruto RSM = Bijuu PS not regular one.

Wat are you even talking about? Who said that Kurama+Naruto in RSM=Regular PS? Smh. Read. :lol. Anyway No one here has RSM so please don't try and give his feats to BSM Minato of all people. :lol.

All you use are biased asumptions without any proof so be kind and tell me exactly:

All I'm seeing is "lol you are wrong" without any kind of evidence or argument to show me why I'm wrong.

How much exactly chakra Sasuke have comapred to JJ Obito

Irrelevant. Obito has far more chakra anyway as he has the Juubi. Says nothing about Obito's power though.

-Hom much exactly is Sasuke PS stronger than Kakashi PS

Irrelevant. All we need to know is that it's far weaker (and we do know it's far weaker, at least all the unbiased people do) and the rest of my argument falls into place.

-How much exactly RSM Naruto Bijuu dama is stronger than BM Naruto 5 Bijuu dama barrage

Why don't you read the Manga? Cause it literally shows the explosion of those BD and that BD. One of Naruto's barrages was only as large as the V1 Juubi, which is not as large as a Mountain. RSM Naruto's BD dwarfs a regular Mountain. Like I said, read the Manga. Chapter 610 and chapter 695.

-Compare Hagoromo chakra to Juubi chakra.

Irrelevant comparison as we aren't comparing Hagoromo to the Juubi. We are comparing Sasuke to Kakashi.

-Hom much excatly is Rikudo PS stronger than TSB defence

EMS Madara's PS takes something on par with Chojo Kebutsu (the one that happened at VoTE) and 12 BD from Full Kurama to be broken. Gudo Dama gets a hole blown in it by a regular Bijuu Dama and a Susanoo Arrow from Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo which is equal to his PS. Sasuke's PS>>Kakashi's PS>Madara's PS. Do the math.

-Where is stated that Kakashi´s susanoo needs to throw Kamui shuriken ? What stops him to hold it in his hand and hit Sasuke susanoo directly with it.

No one ever said he had to. Lmao. Stop trying to make it seem like I claimed the opposite. He can try, but then Sasuke just uses Ameno to teleport behind Kakashi and skewer his Susanoo with Chidori, which he can't tank since an Avatar stronger than his can't tank it.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

^ And all of them can't prove jack. One of them conceded. One of them thinks Kakashi or Gai can solo. The rest can't put up an argument to save their lives.

It'd be a problem if someone that actually mattered disliked that post.



Look at this crap. :lol These are the kind of people that are arguing here.

Oh really let me tell you what version of Sasuke you, Kid gamer and other wanker use.

Omnipresent and Omnipotence version.

You version of Sasuke can have 1000 different thoughts in one millisecond ,he can do 1000 different things in one millisecond ,he can cut shinju tree ,cut 8 gates Gai dodge Kamui snipe destroy all Minato clones all that at same time.

Yeah there is fanfiction section about that.

He can react to Kamui that occur behind him.

Yeah too bad he could not do sh1t against Yomotsu Hirasaka and he had 2 chances and he failed miserably

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And yes dual Kamui was shown to be faster than Yomotsu Hirasaka

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So he can not even react to Yomotsu let alone Dual Kamui that happens behind him.

Kakashi warps Minato (Or his clone ) ,teleport Minato behind Sasuke susanoo and marks him GG.

And yes Sasuke needs susanoo if he don´t want to be turned into pancake by EE.

And yes this Kamui was dual and Rikudo enhanced so don´t use others single Kamui feats as example.