Is Sasuke more of Lightning than Fire?

[BenjerminGaye]

Who knows, but I have the more recent scan as proof. Sasuke DID TRAIN to use chidori, he didn't simply copy it as you say. I'm not saying his affinity isn't lightning, but to say that it came eaiser to him than fire did is false considering he mastered fireball jutsu in less than a week as an 8 year old which I already proved in post #31. Also, Sasuke could elementally recompose his chakra into fire without training, he did it on his first try and even tho it was small fire still came out.

mastering a b rank right of passage katon isn't something to boast about. And your scan's "recentness" in no way invalidates mine. Kakashi is the same guy that said he "copied" rasengan even though thats impossible since he didnt have the sharingan yet.

 

[itsxtrayy]

mastering a b rank right of passage katon isn't something to boast about. And your scan's "recentness" in no way invalidates mine. Kakashi is the same guy that said he "copied" rasengan even though thats impossible since he didnt have the sharingan yet.

You're not understanding me, You cant use an elemental jutsu unless you can elementally recompose your chakra into that element something that takes years to do according to Kakashi. The fact that Sasuke could use the fireball jutsu without training means that changing his chakra into fire came easier to him than turning it into lightning. That's all I'm saying everything else is irrelevant.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You're not understanding me, You cant use an elemental jutsu unless you can elementally recompose your chakra into that element something that takes years to do according to Kakashi. The fact that Sasuke could use the fireball jutsu without training means that changing his chakra into fire came easier to him than turning it into lightning. That's all I'm saying everything else is irrelevant.

false. The entire S.A. Did a crappy earth wall on first try after ino told them the handseals(same thing fujaku did to sasuke replace earth with fire). Unless youre gonna be a dumbass and say the entire S.A. Is earth stly your whole argument falls flat.

 

[itsxtrayy]

false. The entire S.A. Did a crappy earth wall on first try after ino told them the handseals(same thing fujaku did to sasuke replace earth with fire). Unless youre gonna be a dumbass and say the entire S.A. Is earth stly your whole argument falls flat.

Naw bro, shikamaru specifically asked for an earth jutsu that anyone could use regardless of training so it's super weak but they had thousands of people. Regular earth techs would take longer to master:

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You can't compare that with Sasuke learning fireball jutsu. Something used as a rite of passage automatically means it's not easy to learn otherwise whats the point of using it as a rite of passage?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Naw bro, shikamaru specifically asked for an earth jutsu that anyone could use regardless of training so it's super weak but they had thousands of people. Regular earth techs would take longer to master:

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Exactly. If entire S.A. Can "elementally recompose" as you so kindly put in seconds obviously what kakashi said either:

a: Isn't true

or

b: only apples to high level techs.


Fodder grand fireball isnt high level and any uchiha(even weak sauce genin obito) can do it since its right of passage. Neither is eath wall. So novices pulling off either on the first go isnt out of the question since both techs are weaksauce.

 

[itsxtrayy]

Exactly. If entire S.A. Can "elementally recompose" as you so kindly put in seconds obviously what kakashi said either:

a: Isn't true

or

b: only apples to high level techs.


Fodder grand fireball isnt high level and any uchiha(even weak sauce genin obito) can do it since its right of passage. Neither is eath wall. So novices pulling off either on the first go isnt out of the question since both techs are weaksauce.

Wow, lol, that earth wall was specifically stated that anyone can use it regardless of affinity, it's pretty much a useless tech without hundreds of people using it. Completely different from the Uchiha clans rite of passage technique. that's actually a ranked jutsu. What Kakashi said is true, but that technique is so fodder, it's an exception to the rule.

 

[Tyris]

His given nature by right of birth and feats(performed fire first and very well) will always be as its always been: fire.

As kakashi said: " it took him quite a large number of days to get him to hearn how to elementally recompose his chakra to lightening.

But he is very attuned to lightening as he is supposed to be.

They are both his natures he just prefers his secondary nature.

 

[Nick01]

Greater with lightning.

 

[lndra]

It's probably his affinity

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Fire Release is primary. Lightning Release is secondary.

This. His primary affinity which he inherits from his clan is Fire. And he holds equal affinity towards Lightning, even though that's secondary, that being his personal affinity.

OT: Him comparative struggling with fire could be due to having to equal affinities. Or it could just be random.

Well he tamed lightning at 17 and he also mastered the highest ranking of fire manipulation ever seen(enton) around the same time. Both lightning and fire are his strong suites.

And this.

Well Madara still reigns over Katon today.

Enton alone puts Sasuke above Madara in Katon.

 

[lndra]

Enton alone puts Sasuke above Madara in Katon.

So your saying Sasuke needs MS/EMS to be above Madara's natural fire?

 

[itsxtrayy]

So your saying Sasuke needs MS/EMS to be above Madara's natural fire?

I have no idea why kishi didn't develop Sasuke's fire jutsu I mean that and the sharingan are the pride of the uchiha clan you would think he'd want to master it. But people should realize all of madara's katons are B rank jutsu's just like Sasuke's great dragon fire jutsu so he's been skilled enough to learn them since part 1 considering he mastered an A rank jutsu back then. My theory is that Madara's huge fire techniques are "lost" since he didn't pass them down. That's the only way i can see Sasuke let alone Itachi not mastering them.

 

[shelke]

Fire is his natural affinity. Uchiha are gifted in this regard. He had to actually train for Raiton, even though he's an undisputed king of Raiton in the manga.

Also, people are acting like Sasuke has no talent in fire style. It took him a couple days and the fireball he spit out was so big it surprised his father he wen't from this:

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To this is a couple days as an 8-year-old:

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His father said even if he taught him in another week it wouldn't matter so it took Sasuke less than a week of training to do that:

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Not to mention his Dragon Katon attack comfortably beats Madara's down. It bypassed the storm's microbursts and reached the clouds. That is literally a feat against the might of nature.

Sasuke struggling with basic Katon is bullshit. His father didn't even train him completely. He did it all on his own. Itachi learning it quicker is fiction.

Wow, lol, that earth wall was specifically stated that anyone can use it regardless of affinity, it's pretty much a useless tech without hundreds of people using it. Completely different from the Uchiha clans rite of passage technique. that's actually a ranked jutsu. What Kakashi said is true, but that technique is so fodder, it's an exception to the rule.

Why are you even bothering with this jackass? Nothing validates the garbage he spews with his daily anti-Sasuke agenda on the forums. Stating that Katon tech is weak, when his dear old Kakashi had to race underground to dodge it, says a lot. Heck, he could never copy it even with Sharingan, now could he?

Now watch him seethe.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Obito just barely had Fireball down around the time if his "Death"

When Sasuke fans don't even know their favs go to element. Smh. You need to stop ignoring Kishi's symbolism m8.

Obito didn't have any parents or siblings to help him with the jutsu either lol in the anime anyway he definitely had 2-3 fire jutsu. Could you clarify how you got "barely had fireball down" btw?

Just think of Sasuke's fights from the very beginning of Shippuden.

Team Yamato encounter: Chidori Nagashi & then attempts a kirin.

Orochimaru fight: Straight for the chidori spear, followed by chidori chopping snake heads & then genjutsu.

Deidera fight: Non-stop lightening style, even through his blade.

Kage Summit: When he wasn't susano camping he was using chidori on the raikage. On the frickin raikage. Even when he's fighting lightening style users only, he uses his own frickin lightening.

Killer Bee fight: Chidori *gets rekt* channels chidori through a blade to save Suigetsu. Amaterasu is a last resort and used once.

Have you found a fire style feat that can rival kirin btw? Channeling natural lightening usimg little to no chakra.

What a silly debate to be having...

 

[Endles Waltz]

Even though he naturally possesses Fire due to his Uchiha blood, Lightning is clearly his primary element and what he is most proficient at.

His strongest and most iconic jutsu's are lightning based and his final Susanoo is basically a lightning god.

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[Dantee]

Even though he naturally possesses Fire due to his Uchiha blood, Lightning is clearly his primary element and what he is most proficient at.

His strongest and most iconic jutsu's are lightning based and his final Susanoo is basically a lightning god.

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To be fair I don't see why Sasuke couldn't do the same thing with ENton.

 

[King Of Pop]

For someone born with the fire element, he was utterly shit at it compared to his brother. Are you sure it wasn't forced on him? Anyone can learn an element if they try hard enough and fireballs are basic af. In the anime anyway, he did the chakra type paper test with Kakashi in preparation for the chuunin exams where he then went on to learn chidori as a result. There's a reason he primarily used lightening style before he unlocked amaterasu.

I'll just wait for someone to show me a more impressive fire feat than kirin :bdpf:



The fact he had to practice so much means it didn't come as naturally to him as....

i dont know what manga you are reading, but itachi doesnt have better katon feats than sasuke, its actually the other way around.

 

[SatanicGod]

When Sasuke fans don't even know their favs go to element. Smh. You need to stop ignoring Kishi's symbolism m8.

Obito didn't have any parents or siblings to help him with the jutsu either lol in the anime anyway he definitely had 2-3 fire jutsu. Could you clarify how you got "barely had fireball down" btw?

Just think of Sasuke's fights from the very beginning of Shippuden.

Team Yamato encounter: Chidori Nagashi & then attempts a kirin.

Orochimaru fight: Straight for the chidori spear, followed by chidori chopping snake heads & then genjutsu.

Deidera fight: Non-stop lightening style, even through his blade.

Kage Summit: When he wasn't susano camping he was using chidori on the raikage. On the frickin raikage. Even when he's fighting lightening style users only, he uses his own frickin lightening.

Killer Bee fight: Chidori *gets rekt* channels chidori through a blade to save Suigetsu. Amaterasu is a last resort and used once.

Have you found a fire style feat that can rival kirin btw? Channeling natural lightening usimg little to no chakra.

What a silly debate to be having...

1. Never said his go to element is fire, I'm saying his birth/primary element is fire

2. In the manga the only fire Jutsu Kid Obito has done is Fireball, and even then it wasn't a ball of flames it was more of a steam (but I see how that for the situation more, so I'll discard that extra tidbit as insignificant)
3. The rest of your post quite literally has nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

So your saying Sasuke needs MS/EMS to be above Madara's natural fire?

Yes...

 

[Char Aznable]

Yes...

Blind Madara shrugged off Sasuke's Amaterasu.

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Sasuke's better sticking to his lighting jutsus.