Sasuke vs Gai, Obito, Kakashi, Minato

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Or Sasuke uses Ameno and one shots either Kakashi or Obito as he is being warped, or better yet, he moves Kakashi or Obito, either canceling the warp or cutting it short and causing Kakashi to take off a large portion of Obitoa body.
 

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Obito is the first one to go, as Sasuke has intel on his bijuudamas, and knows that bijuudamas are the only threats
 

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Lmao at anyone saying Sasuke is faster on foot. Gai was literally running circles around Madara. The speed difference between them was huge.

The example of Madara being able to block with TSB shield only talks about the speed of the air cannon that it's fired, which is not fast enough to hit madara without reaction from the later, but about Gai's foot speed, there's nothing that indicates Sasuke has a small fraction of it, lmao.

Not even talk about night moth which is the fastest attack on the Manga (travelling speed)

EDIT: Not to mention, Gai was fighting on the air, he wasn't running, he was kicking air towards the ground to be able to run on air, so it wasn't even his full speed.

I hope nobody states Again that Sasuke is faster on foot
 

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1. :lol @ Sasuke needing Chidori to wreck Minato's Avatar. PS one shots it with it's swords. If he tries to escape, Sasuke uses Ameno to warp to him and then kills him. Or he warps Minato to him and then kills him. Minato wasn't properly reacting to Obito's attacks so Sasuke's attacks kill him before he has a chance to do anything.

2. Only thing right here is that Juubidama>Anything Sasuke has.

3. If you honestly think a bunch of clones will be enough to distract Sasuke you seriously need to reevaluate this match up. Sasuke swings his blade a few times and all clones die. Or he simply brings the real Minato to him and one shots him, thus all his clones vanish.

4. Uh, no. Evening Elephant only sent Madara flying back 10-30 meters when Gai hit him directly. Susanoo>>>>>Madara in durability and sturdiness. If Gai hits Susanoo, it doesn't budge, and then it one shots him with it's blade. Same thing happens with Night Guy. It gets tanked, Gai crumbles to ash and the rest get fodderized.

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Kurama already tanked PS sword. Half Kurama also tanked Juubi laser which took down 10 Bijuu bombs.This is Full Kurama with SM so it easily tanks that sh1t.

Sasuke can´t destroy clones with susanoo sword when Kakashi will block it with his own PS sword.While Sasuke is occupied with clones and Kakashi´s PS Obito can use this to immobilise his Susanoo and Minato can easily mark him (or Obito can use chakra arms).

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Sasuke isn´t sensor and he don´t have Byakugan so he can´t deal with all them at same time. When Minato create clones Sasuke can´t know which one is real. . Also Kakashi can with Kamui teleport some clone onto Susanoo to easily mark him.

Honestly Kakashi can go CQC with susanoo to make Sasuke occupied and Minato can use food cart destroyer to crush susanoo from above and give Kakashi chance to Kamui shot him.
 

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Lol you using RSM Narutos feats for BSM Minato almost makes me want to neg you and move along. But I'll respond, later.
 

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PS one shots like it did here

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Kurama already tanked PS sword. Half Kurama also tanked Juubi laser which took down 10 Bijuu bombs.This is Full Kurama with SM so it easily tanks that sh1t.

Sasuke can´t destroy clones with susanoo sword when Kakashi will block it with his own PS sword.While Sasuke is occupied with clones and Kakashi´s PS Obito can use this to immobilise his Susanoo and Minato can easily mark him (or Obito can use chakra arms).

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Sasuke isn´t sensor and he don´t have Byakugan so he can´t deal with all them at same time. When Minato create clones Sasuke can´t know which one is real. . Also Kakashi can with Kamui teleport some clone onto Susanoo to easily mark him.

Honestly Kakashi can go CQC with susanoo to make Sasuke occupied and Minato can use food cart destroyer to crush susanoo from above and give Kakashi chance to Kamui shot him.

I wouldn't compare Naruto's half Kurama avatar boosted by SM and Rikudo chakra with BSM Minato's, lmao. That's the worse argument you could ever use on this thread.

Tho i do think KG is overrating the difference between Sasuke's and Kakashi's PS, but, Sasuke is still the winner of this fight.
 

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I don't think FTG works as interdimentional travel.

I think that for example, if Minato gets warped into the pocket dimension, and tries to teleport to a marking that is on the real dimension, he can't.

Not all S/T are connected

Why not? Sasuke summoned his bird in Kaguya's lava dimension.
 

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Firstly, Sasue speed >>>>>>>> everybody except gai. He can basically blitz them all. They would need gai to defend them, or minato to FTG them out of the way, Assuming he can react to sasuke. He couldn't react to madara. Sasuke could probably kill him with ease. Nobody really stands a chance.

Gai dies in like 10 - 15 minutes. If sasuke goes into a different dimension, taking obito and minato with him, he can just kill them there and come back to kill kakashi(gai would be dead).
 

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I wouldn't compare Naruto's half Kurama avatar boosted by SM and Rikudo chakra with BSM Minato's, lmao. That's the worse argument you could ever use on this thread.

Tho i do think KG is overrating the difference between Sasuke's and Kakashi's PS, but, Sasuke is still the winner of this fight.

Lol you using RSM Narutos feats for BSM Minato almost makes me want to neg you and move along. But I'll respond, later.

Ending this quickly : (OP said its fanfictional FULL Kurama with SM)

a) Now Kakashi covers full SM Kurama with his PS.

b) Obito has shown to be able to transfer/Share chakra (Once to dead Naruto once to Kakashi)

This is Juubito so he boosts ISO Susanoo and Kurama with Rikudo senjutsu chakra.

c) with all this combination Sasuke susanoo will be inferior.

d) Obito can use TSB to cover susanoo swords for some extra damage and durability
 

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Ending this quickly : (OP said its fanfictional FULL Kurama with SM)

a) Now Kakashi covers full SM Kurama with his PS.

b) Obito has shown to be able to transfer/Share chakra (Once to dead Naruto once to Kakashi)

This is Juubito so he boosts ISO Susanoo and Kurama with Rikudo senjutsu chakra.

c) with all this combination Sasuke susanoo will be inferior.

d) Obito can use TSB to cover susanoo swords for some extra damage and durability

Now you are making more sense, but why would a portion of Obito's power boost Kurama and Susanoo to a level beyond Sasuke's? Who has half of Hagoromo's power. A portion of Obito's power should be inferior to a portion of Madara's, which is what Kakashi has. Thus Kakashi's Susanoo gets a bit stronger while Minato's Avatar gets a boost inferior to what Kakashi got, thus it's still far below Sasuke's PS in power.

Chidori=BD, and one BD is already strong enough to damage Sasuke/Naruto's Avatars. Chidori is more focused. Chidori runs through PS and Kurama and kills anyone who isn't Kakashi.

And no, this is not the same as when Jugo transferred Senjutsu directly to Sasuke's Susanoo nor is there any evidence he can do that.

PS one shots like it did here

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Kurama already tanked PS sword. Half Kurama also tanked Juubi laser which took down 10 Bijuu bombs.This is Full Kurama with SM so it easily tanks that sh1t.

Addressed above. Naruto's feats are irrelevant here, and Half Kurama taking the Juubi laser is irrelevant when all of Sasuke's attacks surpass that overrated ass laser.

Sasuke can´t destroy clones with susanoo sword when Kakashi will block it with his own PS sword.While Sasuke is occupied with clones and Kakashi´s PS Obito can use this to immobilise his Susanoo and Minato can easily mark him (or Obito can use chakra arms).

If Kakashi gets involved, Sasuke one shots his Susanoo with Chidori and then wrecks the clones with his swords. Not sure how Obito is going to immobilize Susanoo when:

-He's not physically superior to it.
-Gudo Dama were only large enough to bind Sasuke and Naruto's Avatars before the boost. They are much larger after the boost, thus this strategy fails.
-Chakra arms get cut.

Sasuke isn´t sensor and he don´t have Byakugan so he can´t deal with all them at same time. When Minato create clones Sasuke can´t know which one is real. . Also Kakashi can with Kamui teleport some clone onto Susanoo to easily mark him.

He doesn't need to be a sensor to deal with all of them. He doesn't need to tell which Minato is real because Minato is fodder and he can literally wipe him and his clones out in one shot. Kakashi can try to warp a clone onto Susanoo, but that's a good way to die since he'd need to do close range warping, and that requires him to solidify himself, and when he does, Ameno+Any attack=Dead Kakashi.


Honestly Kakashi can go CQC with susanoo to make Sasuke occupied and Minato can use food cart destroyer to crush susanoo from above and give Kakashi chance to Kamui shot him.

Honestly, if Kakashi tries engaging Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, he gets wrecked with little effort. Not sure if I should take the rest of this terrible post seriously. A bijuu sized Toad pins/crushes Perfect Susanoo? :lol.

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Now you are making more sense, but why would a portion of Obito's power boost Kurama and Susanoo to a level beyond Sasuke's? Who has half of Hagoromo's power. A portion of Obito's power should be inferior to a portion of Madara's, which is what Kakashi has. Thus Kakashi's Susanoo gets a bit stronger while Minato's Avatar gets a boost inferior to what Kakashi got, thus it's still far below Sasuke's PS in power.

Chidori=BD, and one BD is already strong enough to damage Sasuke/Naruto's Avatars. Chidori is more focused. Chidori runs through PS and Kurama and kills anyone who isn't Kakashi.

And no, this is not the same as when Jugo transferred Senjutsu directly to Sasuke's Susanoo nor is there any evidence he can do that.



Addressed above. Naruto's feats are irrelevant here, and Half Kurama taking the Juubi laser is irrelevant when all of Sasuke's attacks surpass that overrated ass laser.



If Kakashi gets involved, Sasuke one shots his Susanoo with Chidori and then wrecks the clones with his swords. Not sure how Obito is going to immobilize Susanoo when:

-He's not physically superior to it.
-Gudo Dama were only large enough to bind Sasuke and Naruto's Avatars before the boost. They are much larger after the boost, thus this strategy fails.
-Chakra arms get cut.



He doesn't need to be a sensor to deal with all of them. He doesn't need to tell which Minato is real because Minato is fodder and he can literally wipe him and his clones out in one shot. Kakashi can try to warp a clone onto Susanoo, but that's a good way to die since he'd need to do close range warping, and that requires him to solidify himself, and when he does, Ameno+Any attack=Dead Kakashi.




Honestly, if Kakashi tries engaging Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, he gets wrecked with little effort. Not sure if I should take the rest of this terrible post seriously. A bijuu sized Toad pins/crushes Perfect Susanoo? :lol.

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**** this Kamui snipe GG
 

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Ameno+Solo Glance+Solo Clap+Susanoo+Speed GG.

Intangibility GG

No seriously I am not expert in this like you ,and I only have general knowledge about all this so I guess you are right.
 
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Why not? Sasuke summoned his bird in Kaguya's lava dimension.

They said that the principle behind Hiraishin and Summoning was the same, but they never once said that they are exactly the same. Summoning being able to call the hawk and Naruto and co to/back from Kaguya's dimension only means that summoning can do that. Minato's wariness of getting dragged into Kamui is evidence that Hiraishin can't escape from dimensions.
 

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yeah kakashi is gonna order his his jonin teacher to do what hmmmm FTG and Gai to do what hmmm use 8 gates


oh yeah and again when didyo see kakashi ordering minato in manga or its just one of your fanfic

his leaderskip skill isn't going to shit in this battle :lol or next you are gonna say shikamaru and his team defeats any high tier becoz leadershp

He couldn't do it Minato is dead... Again what feats alive Minato had? And yeah if Shikamaru leads Guy, Minato and Juubito, they rapes Sasuke too. Power doesn't make difference in that case. You don't win because you're a little more powerful than juubito etc... You lose because their teamwork leads to something you can't beat.
 
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