[Misconception]Sasuke never surpassed Madara.

[XxTayxX]

Sasuke not even surpassed Hashirama, let alone Madara :/
Even Sakura can kick Sasuke's PS like a football and smash it.

Ps is overkill for sakura

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Senjutsu bosts ninjutsu and each Rinnegan jutsus are clasified as ninjutsu and it was obvious Jugo´s senjutsu boosted Susanoo which is eye power.

Re -read my post I said in general not in versus scenario so Sasuke countering IT is irrelevant, point is he can´t reproduce Madara´s IT .

BPS SAsuke has only portions of Bijuus chakra not entire chakra.Madara also has Hashirama SM chakra and chakra from Shinju tree (That tree absorbed chakra from many shinobis when Obito summoned it )

And all that BPS Chakra was comparable to RSM Naruto chakra which is again nowhere near JJ MAdara chakra.


I Am not denying that by feats Sasuke is stronger and thats why I said in my first post " Should be above " since hypothetically Madara should be above him.

And yet again you are wrong at some points.
You only need the Sharingan unlock the Ps, from that points Susano'o can be used remotely. Hence you can be blind and still use Susano.

Hashi's SM became irrelevant after Madara gained Six Path Senjutsu, this is literally a non-factor.
And Sasuke still got 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra.

And all that BPS Chakra was comparable to RSM Naruto chakra which is again nowhere near JJ MAdara chakra.
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[Uzumaki Death god]

Sasuke not even surpassed Hashirama, let alone Madara :/
Even Sakura can kick Sasuke's PS like a football and smash it.

well to be fair to sasuke,only those who have stolen his abilities can surpass Hashirama.The dude's a god

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

And yet again you are wrong at some points.
You only the Sharingan unlock the Ps, from that points Susano'o can be used remotely. Hence you can be blind and still use Susano.

Hashi's SM became irrelevant after Madara gained Six Path Senjutsu, this is literally a non-factor.
And Sasuke still got 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra.

And all that BPS Chakra was comparable to RSM Naruto chakra which is again nowhere near JJ MAdara chakra.
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So can you tell me your opinion how much chakra BPS SAsuke have compared to JJ Madara (in %).

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

So can you tell me your opinion how much chakra BPS SAsuke have compared to JJ Madara (in %).

So By your logic: who has more chakra is the stronger one?
The DB stated that RSM Naruto chakra surpasses Madara's.
So saying shit like RSM Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is retarded.

And saying that Ashura Mode Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is even ...

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

So By your logic: who has more chakra is the stronger one?
The DB stated that RSM Naruto chakra surpasses Madara's.
So saying shit like RSM Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is retarded.

And saying that Ashura Mode Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is even ...

No but more chakra is advantage.

Bold .Show me that since I reed all translations and I don´t remember that BS.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke or Naruto would never be on Hagoromo's level. Hagoromo is Naruto and Sasuke +++. Sasuke's rinnegan might be on Hagoromo's level, but due to not having the Sage's chakra, he'd never reach Hagoromo's level.

 

[GodofallShinobi]

Madara > Sasuke, 2 rinnegan + jubi jin + Senjutsu > Rinnegan. Don't forget Sasuke with EMS was not even a match to blind Madara.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Madara > Sasuke, 2 rinnegan + jubi jin + Senjutsu > Rinnegan. Don't forget Sasuke with EMS was not even a match to blind Madara.

don´t rekt him that much

Edit :

2 rinnegan + Jubi jin + shinju + Mokuton + Rinne sharingan + Senjutsu > rinnegan

 

[GodofallShinobi]

So By your logic: who has more chakra is the stronger one?
The DB stated that RSM Naruto chakra surpasses Madara's.
So saying shit like RSM Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is retarded.

And saying that Ashura Mode Naruto is nowhere JJ Madara is even ...

What is Ashura Mode ?

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Madara > Sasuke, 2 rinnegan + jubi jin + Senjutsu > Rinnegan. Don't forget Sasuke with EMS was not even a match to blind Madara.

don´t rekt him that much

Lmao, you both are biased and pathetic at the same time

 

[Jokule67]

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If he did something on Hagoromo's Lvl we can well assume that he is on his Lvl.
Also, Madara's Body Power advantage loses its meaning, since Sasuke equalizes
the body aspect with his BPS.

It looks like Kurama was reffering to how skilled Sasuke is at melding bijuu chakra into one within Susano'o. Hagaromo doing the opposite would be seperating them to Create the bijuu themselves.

But of course this is a testament to the power Sasuke was creating as nothing is stronger than the Juubi. And since Sasuke basically created a makeshift juubi he should actually be at Hagos level power wise.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

It looks like Kurama was reffering to how skilled Sasuke is at melding bijuu chakra into one within Susano'o. Hagaromo doing the opposite would be seperating them to Create the bijuu themselves.

Gerkak already said that. :|

 

[Reboryushon]

I agree and that scan is bliss.

If anything Sasuke surpassed Madara on the fact that he was able to pick his path and make his destiny what he wanted. Madara was a Puppet, this is the sad truth about him.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

You are not accepting the fact

Accepting what?
"Madara > Sasuke, 2 rinnegan + jubi jin + Senjutsu > Rinnegan. Don't forget Sasuke with EMS was not even a match to blind Madara."
Let me destroy this argument.

Even tho Madara has 2 Rinnegan, Sasuke's 1 eyed Rinnegan has shown better feats.
-The Rinnegan Argument is invalid.

Sasuke at Vote 2 had BPS so the this argument barely matters.

Sasuke has Six Path Power which in case is equal to Six Path Senjutsu.

So now what?

 

[Jokule67]

Gerkak already said that. :|

I edited my comment. I am not biased not to see Sasuke had juubi level power at that exact moment.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Both Adult Sasuke and Adult Naruto are still weaker than JJ Madara. They would still have to jump him with the seals.

That doesn't mean that they are weaker.
It does simply mean that they kick his butt until they run out of chakra.

 

[GodofallShinobi]

Even tho Sasuke has 2 Rinnegan, Sasuke's 1 eyed Rinnegan has shown better feats.
-The Rinnegan Argument is invalid.

Sasuke can transport with his rinnegan while Madara uses limbo. Both have their own merits and demerits. Like Sasuke need a partner to hit transported Madara.

Sasuke at Vote 2 had BPS so the this argument barely matters.

BPS is not something sasuke do alone. He needs Narito. Don't forget Madara also used BPS against Hashirama.

Sasuke has Six Path Power which in case is equal to Six Path Senjutsu.

Six path power, six path senjutsu, don't confuse yourself. Madara has both

 

[Jokule67]

That doesn't mean that they are weaker.
It does simply mean that they kick his butt until they run out of chakra.

First off Jubbi Maddy is immortal. Sasuke cannot defeat Madaras Limbo without Naruto. Naruto actually is a better match up with his senjutsu buff( he matched bps sasuke) but he still dies.

And the comment Orochimaru made was reffered to Madara before anyone knew he would become a juubi jin. Sasuke is more powerful than THAT madara. But he cannot smack around JJ Madara. He could barely whoop Kinshiki.

 

[Amazeballs]

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If he did something on Hagoromo's Lvl we can well assume that he is on his Lvl.
Also, Madara's Body Power advantage loses its meaning, since Sasuke equalizes
the body aspect with his BPS.

That's like saying that pre-Sage Mode Naruto surpassed Minato just because he could create FRS (a feat Minato never managed to accomplish). Obviously, at that point, Minato was still multiple tiers beyond Naruto in overall skill/power. And in that case, Naruto had accomplished a truly superior feat, whereas in this case Sasuke merely performed a technique on the same level as Hagoromo.

I dunno why I'm even arguing this. I feel like anyone who cites that page to "prove" that Sasuke is literally on Hagoromo's level is just trolling, and I'm taking the bait. =/