Konan vs Armless Orochimaru

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IMO, I think he could use jutsu but went easy against Naruto. He was pretty clearly just playing with him and he did use summoning jutsu.

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Not trying to be an ass, but I think that disproves that.
I think Orochimaru was fighting pretty seriously, but you're right. He was only playing with him the entire time.
It can be argued whether or not he actually wanted to kill Naruto there, as a few chapters later he prevents Sasuke from killing them.
 

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Really though... The more I think about it the less likely it seems Konan can win.
How can she win? Her best bet would seemingly be to asphyxiate him but he's too fast to be caught up in something like that.
 

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Not trying to be an ass, but I think that disproves that.
I think Orochimaru was fighting pretty seriously, but you're right. He was only playing with him the entire time.
It can be argued whether or not he actually wanted to kill Naruto there, as a few chapters later he prevents Sasuke from killing them.

Nah no worries i didnt take that as you being an ass. Im really not sure then because in the chapters where oro goes to Tsunade to have her heal him his arms are shaking and he's screaming and murdering his subordinates hes in such pain. he keeps saying it feels like his arms are on fire but we dont see that against naruto.
 

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Nah no worries i didnt take that as you being an ass. Im really not sure then because in the chapters where oro goes to Tsunade to have her heal him his arms are shaking and he's screaming and murdering his subordinates hes in such pain. he keeps saying it feels like his arms are on fire but we dont see that against naruto.

That was still when had the body he used against Hiruzen, that body had soul necrosis.
He was waiting for Sasuke to arrive so he could immediately take his body, but the pain was too much and Kabuto feared Orochimaru would die. So, Orochimaru listened to Kabuto's advice and took Gen'yumaru's body, curing the necrosis but not the lack of soul arms.

In hindsight, nothing bad would've happened if Orochimaru died waiting for Sasuke due to the Horcruxes I mean Curse Marks. But Kishi hadn't thought of that yet :/
 

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That was still when had the body he used against Hiruzen, that body had soul necrosis.
He was waiting for Sasuke to arrive so he could immediately take his body, but the pain was too much and Kabuto feared Orochimaru would die. So, Orochimaru listened to Kabuto's advice and took Gen'yumaru's body, curing the necrosis but not the lack of soul arms.

In hindsight, nothing bad would've happened if Orochimaru died waiting for Sasuke due to the Horcruxes I mean Curse Marks. But Kishi hadn't thought of that yet :/

But if he can punch and use summoning jutsu and shadow snakes, how doesnt he have soul arms?
 

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But if he can punch and use summoning jutsu and shadow snakes, how doesnt he have soul arms?

He could punch because the new body wasn't effected by necrosis.

Regarding using actual Jutsu, as I said his Chakra control may just be that f*cking good, coupled with the fact that Summoning Jutsu is his signature move so he probably has a better handle on that Jutsu than, maybe, any other character. Or, there's some sort of loophole or exploit in the way Summoning Jutsu is used that Orochimaru figured out. Or maybe a combination of both.

Point is, idk. But he did it because he's a damn genius.
 

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I think it's a plothole in the manga.
 
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