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Chakra Potency increases the same way. Gohan at the start of Buu saga was weaker than when he fought Cell btw

What has he actually done that would imply he's stronger? He hadn't fought in so long he lost his battle edge and got caught of guard by a normal MS, something Kurama and Sasuke both implied (and we as readers know) would have been a breeze for him counter had he been in tip top condition

Btw: Sorry for not getting back to on that topic. Gotta lot of stuff going on irl, so if anything I concede the argument but not the point. Idk if I'll have time to get around to it

Lol, how exactly does chakra potency grow in that way? No indication of such a thing, what you just said is that his Rasengan would be stronger when he's mad then when he's not.

Let's see, 100% Kurama because chakra potency and chakra quantity correlate to an extent. Ageing develops chakra because you develop your physical energy as you become stronger. That's a natural process in terms of the bodily growth you gain as you age. His spiritual energy probably didn't develop (much) but that doesn't mean anything. Sasuke trained for 10 years, experience boosts spiritual energy and training improves physical energy, alongside the natural process of ageing. His Chidori can now vaporise an entire meteor. Not fighting for long=being rusty, his overall power wouldn't be weaker. And anyways, this is merely Gaiden, after that Naruto trained for a few years iirc before the Momo fight.

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Nothing really. I just feel that Naruto got weaker while Sasuke got stronger. Based on them being equal Naruto might not be able to collect the massive amount of Nature Energy

I can see how you feel this way, even though I disagree..

I see it as Naruto didn't get weaker but he didn't grow very much either.. Meaning he only grew because of his body Maturing... Do I think Naruto gotten faster?no. Learn new jutsu?no Gotten stronger? Possibly. Gain more chakra? Yes.. And he gain more experience, everything else remains the same.. So if he didn't get weaker.. He got stronger.

Sasuke on the other hand is a completely different story.. Sasuke grew in just about everything saved Genjutsu.. His speed,strength, durability,Taijutsu,ninjutsu and chakra all took amazing leaps..

With that being Said, he needed it to be Naruto's equal.. Naruto was the strongest of the two at VOTE2. Sasuke needed to catch up and he did.
 

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I can see how you feel this way, even though I disagree..

I see it as Naruto didn't get weaker but he didn't grow very much either.. Meaning he only grew because of his body Maturing... Do I think Naruto gotten faster?no. Learn new jutsu?no Gotten stronger? Possibly. Gain more chakra? Yes.. And he gain more experience, everything else remains the same.. So if he didn't get weaker.. He got stronger.

Sasuke on the other hand is a completely different story.. Sasuke grew in just about everything saved Genjutsu.. His speed,strength, durability,Taijutsu,ninjutsu and chakra all took amazing leaps..

With that being Said, he needed it to be Naruto's equal.. Naruto was the strongest of the two at VOTE2. Sasuke needed to catch up and he did.

So we're more or less on the same page then.

My big thing is that no other character has gotten stronger just by being on standby Rikudo chakra or otherwise, and we know that Naruto hadn't fought for a long time based on Kurama's statement. It highly unlikely he trained either, as he doesn't even have time to spend with his family.

Then Sasuke making up a 9 Biju difference plus how much anyone thinks Naruto grew is completely ludicrous imo
Lol, how exactly does chakra potency grow in that way? No indication of such a thing, what you just said is that his Rasengan would be stronger when he's mad then when he's not.

Let's see, 100% Kurama because chakra potency and chakra quantity correlate to an extent. Ageing develops chakra because you develop your physical energy as you become stronger. That's a natural process in terms of the bodily growth you gain as you age. His spiritual energy probably didn't develop (much) but that doesn't mean anything. Sasuke trained for 10 years, experience boosts spiritual energy and training improves physical energy, alongside the natural process of ageing. His Chidori can now vaporise an entire meteor. Not fighting for long=being rusty, his overall power wouldn't be weaker. And anyways, this is merely Gaiden, after that Naruto trained for a few years iirc before the Momo fight.

Np bro

Rage boost Is a diffrent can of worms. It doesn't apply to what I was saying though.

(Didn't undestand your first sentance. %100 Kurama?)

Just aging wouldn't developed your potency either. If anything it would have deteriorated from him not training and becoming weaker. His spiritual energy probably didn't change much though I agree.

I wouldn't know if he trained or not. Only saw cam rips of the final fight from either movie
 
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adult sasuke gets blown away by indras arrow.
 

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The problem here is you assume Sasuke 'had to run closer to momo' to Ameno behind him... When fact is Sasuke only Ameno to be a decoy, and so the focus want be on Boruto.

Smh... what destracted momo was sasuke behind him, at that point he was the decoy after momo smacked sasuke behind him boruto puffed infront of him.

Sasuke running towards momo dodging projectiles served no porpuse in destracting momo, if sasuke could've ameno'd behind momo from where he was standing he would of done so.
 

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Rage boost Is a diffrent can of worms. It doesn't apply to what I was saying though.

(Didn't undestand your first sentance. %100 Kurama?)

Just aging wouldn't developed your potency either. If anything it would have deteriorated from him not training and becoming weaker. His spiritual energy probably didn't change much though I agree.

I wouldn't know if he trained or not. Only saw cam rips of the final fight from either movie

Then elaborate, because right now it really has no support to it at all.

Yes, Naruto has 100% Kurama inside him.. More chakra can equate with greater chakra potency.

Again, physical energy is your bodily energy. As you age (into your late 20's early 30's) your body only grows stronger. Only thereafter does it start to weaken. Naruto was at his bodily prime during the movies.

Pretty sure he had 2 years, though that might've been before he became Hokage. Doesn't matter though, because 100% Kurama overcomes that by a long run.
 

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Smh... what destracted momo was sasuke behind him, at that point he was the decoy after momo smacked sasuke behind him boruto puffed infront of him.

Sasuke running towards momo dodging projectiles served no porpuse in destracting momo, if sasuke could've ameno'd behind momo from where he was standing he would of done so.

Dude.. All your arguments are base solely on your own speculation and opinions.. I'm not in the mood to argue against that.
 

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Then elaborate, because right now it really has no support to it at all.

Yes, Naruto has 100% Kurama inside him.. More chakra can equate with greater chakra potency.

Again, physical energy is your bodily energy. As you age (into your late 20's early 30's) your body only grows stronger. Only thereafter does it start to weaken. Naruto was at his bodily prime during the movies.

Pretty sure he had 2 years, though that might've been before he became Hokage. Doesn't matter though, because 100% Kurama overcomes that by a long run.

Because I never said they were exactly the same. The scenario was to give perspective, Gohan didn't train and thus got weaker.

Yes, but it's much more trivial when we're talking about people with Rikudo chakra. In terms of potency, there's people much weaker than Naruto ahead of half Kurama in potency.

But it would have deteriorated from not training. Simply growing older wouldn't make up the diffrence. A 30 year old thay does nothing all day is going to be in worse shape than his 16 year old self that had football practice everyday. I doubt the Boruto movie was his prime, his Last self would be under non-nerfed circumstances if anything.

Again I wouldn't know, he had enough time for Boruto to graduate from the academy for sure though. That's if he did.
 

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Dude.. All your arguments are base solely on your own speculation and opinions.. I'm not in the mood to argue against that.

lol ok smart guy why didnt sasuke ameno behind momo right from where he was standing then?
 

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So we're more or less on the same page then.

My big thing is that no other character has gotten stronger just by being on standby Rikudo chakra or otherwise, and we know that Naruto hadn't fought for a long time based on Kurama's statement. It highly unlikely he trained either, as he doesn't even have time to spend with his family.

Then Sasuke making up a 9 Biju difference plus how much anyone thinks Naruto grew is completely ludicrous imo

Sasuke isn't making a up for 9 bijuu. Adult Sasuke is making up for a tired chakra exhausted Sasuke that gain a portion of 8 1/2 bijuu.
You make it sound like Sasuke became a Jin when actually he never had the bijuu chakra in him at all. He was just in control of it.
 

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lol ok smart guy why didnt sasuke ameno behind momo right from where he was standing then?

Have you not seen the movie?? Sasuke jump in the air, threw his sword and switch places with his sword. Then boruto switch
Places with Sasuke sword by using a transformation Jutsu..
 

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Have you not seen the movie?? Sasuke jump in the air, threw his sword and switch places with his sword. Then boruto switch
Places with Sasuke sword by using a transformation Jutsu..

oh yea lol forgot
 

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Because I never said they were exactly the same. The scenario was to give perspective, Gohan didn't train and thus got weaker.

Yes, but it's much more trivial when we're talking about people with Rikudo chakra. In terms of potency, there's people much weaker than Naruto ahead of half Kurama in potency.

But it would have deteriorated from not training. Simply growing older wouldn't make up the diffrence. A 30 year old thay does nothing all day is going to be in worse shape than his 16 year old self that had football practice everyday. I doubt the Boruto movie was his prime, his Last self would be under non-nerfed circumstances if anything.

Again I wouldn't know, he had enough time for Boruto to graduate from the academy for sure though. That's if he did.

I know what you're saying, Naruto and Sasuke after 10+ years have settled down and have not fought against an enemy to push them to their limits in order to improve at the crazy rate people say. But their Chakra reserve and potency should have increased without them being active due to their body maturing. Naruto and Sasuke should be stronger than their VoTE 2 version but their power increase should not be as huge as people say it is,and no way would it end in a stomp but high dif (Adult's way). Right?
 

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VOTE Sasuke should win
 

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I know what you're saying, Naruto and Sasuke after 10+ years have settled down and have not fought against an enemy to push them to their limits in order to improve at the crazy rate people say. But their Chakra reserve and potency should have increased without them being active due to their body maturing. Naruto and Sasuke should be stronger than their VoTE 2 version but their power increase should not be as huge as people say it is,and no way would it end in a stomp but high dif (Adult's way). Right?
Stop putting Naruto and Sasuke in the same position.

Sasuke is not Hokage. Sasuke has been on a mission for 13 years, Sasuke has not settled down. How do you explain the huge increase in speed, strength, Taijutsu, durability, ninjutsu and chakra if he isn't pushing himself?
 

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Stop putting Naruto and Sasuke in the same position.

Sasuke is not Hokage. Sasuke has been on a mission for 13 years, Sasuke has not settled down. How do you explain the huge increase in speed, strength, Taijutsu, durability, ninjutsu and chakra if he isn't pushing himself?

"have settled down and have not fought against an enemy to push them to their limits in order to improve at the crazy rate people say"
Please butt out, I'm trying to interpret what this guy is trying to say. Don't get frustrated at me cause I said one thing about Sasuke you didn't agree with.
 

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"have settled down and have not fought against an enemy to push them to their limits in order to improve at the crazy rate people say"
Please butt out, I'm trying to interpret what this guy is trying to say. Don't get frustrated at me cause I said one thing about Sasuke you didn't agree with.

Lol it's not something I don't agree with, it's just straight up lies..

The movies shows his growth in just about every area, but you can't see it?
 

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Lol it's not something I don't agree with, it's just straight up lies..

The movies shows his growth in just about every area, but you can't see it?

Lies? Lol Alright.

Never said they weren't stronger, just said they didn't get as strong as people say they did in order for them to "stomp or neg" their VoTE 2 counterparts.
 

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Lies? Lol Alright.

Never said they weren't stronger, just said they didn't get as strong as people say they did in order for them to "stomp or neg" their VoTE 2 counterparts.

There's like one person Said adult version negs.

Also, you act as if Sasuke and Naruto grew at the same pace when it quite obvious they didn't.
 
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