Sasuke is equal in power, a better character, and seems to be the wiser of the two. The rest of that list is irrelevant seeing how I am not really interested in reading a manga about influential ppl that lead a good life.
Which therefore explains y I find Naruto as one of the most boring characters of the series.
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The title of Hokage pays well. <span style="color: #0000FF">Fact</span><br />
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The title of Hokage and mediator of the Bijuu are a great responsibility. <span style="color: #0000FF">Fact</span><br />
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It's funny how you act like this isn't about him being better than Sasuke even though you used the word "superior". :lol
You brought Sasuke in to this from the thread title, and you've been parading around other threads saying the exact same thing except you did not exclude the last word on those occasions.
It's funny how you act like this isn't about him being better than Sasuke even though you used the word "superior". :lol
You brought Sasuke in to this from the thread title, and you've been parading around other threads saying the exact same thing except you did not exclude the last word on those occasions.
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It's one thing to wank and bait, but at least be up front and own up to it. :lol
I intentionally left him out because I did not want them in this thread. It's an appreciation of Naruto Uzumaki backed by facts. At no point have I said anything that was not true. Naruto is objectively superior which makes any debate irrelevant.
Unless there's someone else who amounts to his accomplishments (Hashirama, maybe) there's no need for Sasuke or anyone for that matter to be brought up.
After all, he is the Main Character, he does have the highest respect spanning from immortal beings to sworn enemies. He has money, he has power, he has responsibility given to him by a god-like sage. He's written in legends. He's influenced generations in the manga and outside. He has everything he could ever want and more.
I intentionally left him out because I did not want them in this thread. It's an appreciation of Naruto Uzumaki backed by facts. At no point have I said anything that was not true. Naruto is objectively superior which makes any debate irrelevant.
Unless there's someone else who amounts to his accomplishments (Hashirama, maybe) there's no need for Sasuke or anyone for that matter to be brought up.
After all, he is the Main Character, he does have the highest respect spanning from immortal beings to sworn enemies. He has money, he has power, he has responsibility given to him by a god-like sage. He's written in legends. He's influenced generations in the manga and outside. He has everything he could ever want and more.
That's better, straight up wank, then you were wrong in "calling out" anyone who brought up Sasuke when your intention was to wank Naruto and say he is better than him. :lol
And no, Naruto is superior in some things, while Sasuke is superior in others. Powers aside, Sasuke has greater wisdom, like Naruto he also has great power and influence, he even calls the shots in front of the Gokage. He takes on a heavier responsibility with no intent of recognition, unlike Naruto, who sought recognition from the start. Naruto is great (not greater), but having money and being popular to the public are not virtuous values that make him better than anybody else, that is not what makes him great.
That's better, straight up wank, then you were wrong in "calling out" anyone who brought up Sasuke when your intention was to wank Naruto and say he is better than him. :lol
And no, Naruto is superior in some things, while Sasuke is superior in others. Powers aside, Sasuke has greater wisdom, like Naruto he also has great power and influence, he even calls the shots in front of the Gokage. He takes on a heavier responsibility with no intent of recognition, unlike Naruto, who sought recognition from the start. Naruto is great (not greater), but having money and being popular to the public are not virtuous values that make him better than anybody else, that is not what makes him great.
My intention was not to bring up Sasuke. You made this about him, all of you Sasuke fans did. Not once did I use his name or even alluded to him. Once again, this thread was an appreciation thread of Naruto backed by facts and his accomplishments that go unmatched to this very day.
All of what you're saying is comparing Naruto to Sasuke which is what I wanted to avoid by not mentioning him. And yet here you are.
But just to point things out:
-Hagoromo specifically made Naruto responsible for changing Sasuke Uchiha, ending the feud between his sons and being the mediator for the bijuu. These responsibilities on top of being the Hokage and living up to his expectations are objectively greater. He has also canonically saved the world 3 times.
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-You call Sasuke Uchiha wiser when he rationalized Killing innocents, Killing the Kages, Killing Naruto, Killing the Bijuu and then starting a revolution. Now if he actually succeeded in any of these tasks the world would have ended twice over. It was Naruto's wisdom and past experiences that influenced the change in Sasuke. One that he compares to Itachi. A man who Sasuke highly regards as someone who "stands in front of him".
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-Naruto sought recognition at the beginning. Since the pain arc he's stated he wanted to live up to their expectations and actually make a change. By the end of the war arc he had already knew what being a Hokage meant and absorbed everything he's experienced. Taking the responsibility and leading the entire shinobi forces against a common enemy.
I did not want to bring up Sasuke or compare them as it was unneeded and unfair but if you're going to say such things I will address it.
What a savage Nips is. You can barely see anyone here straight up own another fanbase with straight up facts. Hats off to you.
And to answer your question why people are bringing up Sasuke is the fact that they're desperate.
My intention was not to bring up Sasuke. You made this about him, all of you Sasuke fans did. Not once did I use his name or even alluded to him. Once again, this thread was an appreciation thread of Naruto backed by facts and his accomplishments that go unmatched to this very day.
All of what you're saying is comparing Naruto to Sasuke which is what I wanted to avoid by not mentioning him. And yet here you are.
But just to point things out:
-Hagoromo specifically made Naruto responsible for changing Sasuke Uchiha, ending the feud between his sons and being the mediator for the bijuu. These responsibilities on top of being the Hokage and living up to his expectations are objectively greater. He has also canonically saved the world 3 times.
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-You call Sasuke Uchiha wiser when he rationalized Killing innocents, Killing the Kages, Killing Naruto, Killing the Bijuu and then starting a revolution. Now if he actually succeeded in any of these tasks the world would have ended twice over. It was Naruto's wisdom and past experiences that influenced the change in Sasuke. One that he compares to Itachi. A man who Sasuke highly regards as someone who "stands in front of him". Naruto's words prior to the fight left him without words.
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-Naruto sought recognition at the beginning. Since the pain arc he's stated he wanted to live up to their expectations and actually make a change. By the end of the war arc he had already knew what being a Hokage meant and absorbed everything he's experienced. Taking the responsibility and leading the entire shinobi forces against a common enemy.
I did not want to bring up Sasuke or compare them as it was unneeded and unfair but if you're going to say such things I will address it.
That's the thing, if you did not want to bring Sasuke into the thread and wanted it to be an appreciation thread then you shouldn't (or should I say wouldn't?) have used the word "superior", but rather a word like "great".
No one can deny his greatness, it is something everyone can appreciate, but many people can question whether or not he is superior to certain characters, otherwise everyone would prefer him over any other character, which is obviously not the case.
Whether or not your intention was to make this a comparison, it is still what ended up happening, like you can see in the comment above mine, this will always happen when you use terms like "Superior" or "better".
He said Naruto is superior in the benefits of what makes him the ruler of the Village and people started hating on his thread as if he was talking about a certain character.
That's the thing, if you did not want to bring Sasuke into the thread and wanted it to be an appreciation thread then you shouldn't (or should I say wouldn't?) have used the word "superior", but rather a word like "great".
No one can deny his greatness, it is something everyone can appreciate, but many people can question whether or not he is superior to certain characters, otherwise everyone would prefer him over any other character, which is obviously not the case.
Whether or not your intention was to make this a comparison, it is still what ended up happening, like you can see in the comment above mine, this will always happen when you use terms like "Superior" or "better".
Even if I said "great", "good", "awesome" or pulled out a thesaurus to better describe him. Sasuke fans would still flock to this thread. I still tried to not make this about Sasuke but it doesn't help when people still bring him up.
