Who would've won if Naruto and Sasuke fought at this level?

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Because that I dont like thread like this. Its when people went out from thread main topic.

Why bring in War Arc Naruto feats here?

Exactly. 1) Naruto gets prep time 2)They mention feats from a later version of Naruto, compared to an earlier version of Sasuke, 3) They misinterpret the manga & over hype Naruto's power.


"Naruto can make 1 thousand SM clones" - he never even did that.

Naruto said both of them would die if they fought.

Naruto also said he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, thus showing he felt Sage Mode wasn't enough, & he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight a battle with Sasuke in which they would both die.

Don't see anyone mentioning this though. Low reading comprehension amongst these guys is high, which why this threads so long.

This'll be the last time i end up getting into debates of this length. They just kept coming. Atleast you were chill, thanks.

Awwh. Noooo you dislike me. Excuse me a sec.
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I literally just reminded you that I referenced to Sasuke's susano camping/mental state w MS & Naruto's tactics etc. How is that not backing up my points? Find a post where I seriously said Naruto solos plz. I don't even like his character. He's just slightly more bearable than Sasuke. :rolleyes:

Kyuubi is part of every Naruto including SM as seen in the Pain fight.. that's like capping Sasuke at 2T or taking his lightening element...

I agree with Dragon Masters post but Pain arc SM Naruto still stands a healthy chance via frog song was all I was saying before you jumped in to try aggressively wank to Sasuke all over me.

I didn't say that i dislike you. I simply pointed out how you were disliked. Naruto & Sasuke are amazing characters. Sasuke is the better fighter, which significantly increases his chances of winning in any stage of the story, but for some who believe Naruto is stronger, nothing else matters than power level.

For someone who deosn't like Naruto, you sure do support him over Sasuke alot, like a fanboy to be honest.


Again check VIZ scan since u in denial

I know the panel you were referring to was a mistranslation, but the quote i said wasn"t.

Lmao i dont think Naruto X Hunter can handle this

I know the story in detail. Yes, the Rasengan did more damage to a building. Logically it should. Chidori is a peircing move while Rasengan is an explosion.

Rasengan = Chidori, it's been shown everytime they ever clashed. Did you really believe this video would surprise me?
 
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Naruto also said he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, thus showing he felt Sage Mode wasn't enough, & he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight a battle with Sasuke in which they would both die.

Don't see anyone mentioning this though. Low reading comprehension amongst these guys is high, which why this threads so long.

This'll be the last time i end up getting into debates of this length. They just kept coming. Atleast you were chill, thanks.

Naruto needed the Kyubi to fight Sasuke and win by bringing him back. SM Naruto vs MS Sasuke ends in them both dying, as manga states.
 

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Exactly. 1) Naruto gets prep time 2)They mention feats from a later version of Naruto, compared to an earlier version of Sasuke, 3) They misinterpret the manga & over hype Naruto's power.


"Naruto can make 1 thousand SM clones" - he never even did that.



Naruto also said he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, thus showing he felt Sage Mode wasn't enough, & he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight a battle with Sasuke in which they would both die.

Don't see anyone mentioning this though. Low reading comprehension amongst these guys is high, which why this threads so long.

This'll be the last time i end up getting into debates of this length. They just kept coming. Atleast you were chill, thanks.

Lmao again wrong translation check VIZ translation
 

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Exactly. 1) Naruto gets prep time 2)They mention feats from a later version of Naruto, compared to an earlier version of Sasuke, 3) They misinterpret the manga & over hype Naruto's power.


"Naruto can make 1 thousand SM clones" - he never even did that.



Naruto also said he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, thus showing he felt Sage Mode wasn't enough, & he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight a battle with Sasuke in which they would both die.

Don't see anyone mentioning this though. Low reading comprehension amongst these guys is high, which why this threads so long.

This'll be the last time i end up getting into debates of this length. They just kept coming. Atleast you were chill, thanks.

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Naruto needed the Kyubi to fight Sasuke and win by bringing him back. SM Naruto vs MS Sasuke ends in them both dying, as manga states.

That wasnt even correct translation. In VIZ he said something like he needs more than just power to defeat sasuke and it showed like darkness in sasuke. The VIZ scan has being posted few times on this matter idk why they still bring it up lol
 

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That wasnt even correct translation. In VIZ he said something like he needs more than just power to defeat sasuke and it showed like darkness in sasuke. The VIZ scan has being posted few times on this matter idk why they still bring it up lol

This is my first time actually seeing the Viz for that page. Interesting.
 

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if u are smart enough u should know that greatest counter to genjutsu is shadow clones right ?
think before post next time...
You should know that I never said he didn't have any counters to Sharingan Genjutsu. I suggest you read my previous replies before responding this way.
 

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Naruto also said he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, thus showing he felt Sage Mode wasn't enough, & he would need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight a battle with Sasuke in which they would both die.

They'd both die anyway. We both knows what happens when Naruto is close to dying.

I'd be a tie/mutual death regardless.
 

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I cry reading these old chapters. :'( I miss how good Naruto was before jubi introduction.

And of course Naruto wins. SM is the EMS equivalent.

Sharingan=strong body
Mangekyo sharingan = special trait
Eternal mangekyo sharingan= SM
Rinnegan = RSM

Mangekyo sharigan = hashiramas wood and narutos tailed beast
Eternal mangekyo sharingan = Sage mode (enhancing there already special state like EMS dies MS.)
 

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Naruto needed the Kyubi to fight Sasuke and win by bringing him back. SM Naruto vs MS Sasuke ends in them both dying, as manga states.

Naruto said they would both die whilst planning on fighting Sasuke later with the Kyuubi's chakra, afterwards he went on to attain the Kyuubi's chakra moments later. If he felt SM was enough to do things, then he wouldn't have resorted to the Kyuubi right then.

Lmao again wrong translation check VIZ translation

I already did, a month ago.



Now that you know the truth, you can't act like he never said that. Well, you can but it won't be as fun.

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above.

That wasnt even correct translation. In VIZ he said something like he needs more than just power to defeat sasuke and it showed like darkness in sasuke. The VIZ scan has being posted few times on this matter idk why they still bring it up lol

Look in my previous reply, i said I knew that page was a translation error. I was talking about another page.
 
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Most high tiers who aren't Uchiha don't have a Dojutsu or a being that lets them break Genjutsu. If I used this nonsense logic, I'd be running around here saying nonsense like "Madara neg diffs Hashirama because lol Genjutsu".

Having Genjutsu=/=Being able to land it.

Read carefully this time. Your logic is basically: "Sasuke possess Genjutsu, thus anyone and everyone who doesn't have a partner automatically loses" while forgetting the fact that one actually has to be able to land Genjutsu before it can be effective.

Well buddy it is apparent u missed parts of the manga lol

It means exactly that as stated by chiyo

Anyways regardless of random or planned those version of sasuke and naruto if they clashed sasuke 8 out of 10 times wins

If ma and pa counts towards naruto's power taka can be considered sasukes's, even zetsu spores count at that point
 

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well buddy it is apparent u missed parts of the manga lol

it means exactly that as stated by chiyo

anyways regardless of random or planned those version of sasuke and naruto if they clashed sasuke 8 out of 10 times wins

if ma and pa counts towards naruto's power taka can be considered sasukes's, even zetsu spores count at that point

taka isn't sasuke summon you surely know that
 

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This battle is without the Kyuubi, & Naruto can't maks a thousand clones whilst in Sage Mode.






"I'll need the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke."



And it was wrong. It's stated he can only make 3 clones whilst in SM, & he claims Naruto can make a thousand, lol.







Lol, read what i said above. i provided manga pages, which were ignored.



This is why you are so disliked & get banned. Unlike you, i back up everything i say & post exactly the pages i'm referring too.

You instead attack users, blindly support Naruto, & say he solos or something. grow up.

Also This is SM Naruto Vs MS Sasuke, not SM Naruto & the Kyuubi vs Sasuke.
To your first sentence, let me lol at your face a little bit :lmao:
Massive shadow clones is the best jutsu that Naruto had been mastered for a very long time that those who read Naruto automatically know it. He abused the technique to quite extend that even many legendary ninja get surprised by it.
With 1 clone tactic, Kakashi defeated 30% Itachi ms genjutsu. Not to mention if Naruto just multi 10 clones, that amount is more than enough to counter genjutsu. Since Sasuke knows Naruto style, he is not that stupid to use genjutsu cause 1 miss and he is out of batteries.

Now you want to minus Kyubii right ?
Let me lol at your face part 2 :lmao:
Kyubii is the reason Naruto can not enter sage mode as easy as he should able to. Pa stated this and thus he and Ma can not fuse with Naruto just because of that problem.
So minus Kyubii then Naruto will have Pa&Ma on his shoulder and he can perform SM without worrying about Kyubii and should able to create as many clones as he wish. But just to remind you that SM enchanced jutsu, not downgrade it.
 
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Umm I belive sasuke had the ems before Naruto had sage or bujii mode and with EMS sasuke could use sussano indefinatley and keep Naruto and his clones from attacking with 1 or two sets of hand while the others attack and destroy the clones and then all 6 arms attack Naruto and well 6 hand on sasuke the weilder of the second most powerfull sussano all six hands at once Naruto whould'nt stand a chance
 

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Post Danzo Sasuke was stronger than Pain arc Naruto, so it's Sasuke who would win.

Zetsu's words didn't mean anything at that point because Zetsu didn't even see all of Sasuke's potential.
 

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Lmao thank u for that translation he keeps ignoring what i say about wrong translation cuz he in denial

Naruto fanboys be irate.

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Imo Sasuke wins. SM NAruto that fought Pein can hardly keep up sage mode and sadly MS Sasukes stamina trumps the rate of which NAruto can keep up sage mode without prepped clones.

Frog Kata is irrevelant when sasuke has chidori nagashi which has a farther range not to mention a sword.

Frog summons irrelevant when they are easily exposed to amaterasu and genjutsu which would put sasuke at an advantage when he summons snakes.

FRS iirrelevant to susanoo

If Naruto runs out of sage mode susanoo arrows will end him and naruto doesn't even have the speed feats to dodge it. His speed would have to be above kakashi in the pein arc and on par with ay.
 

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don't know why they call them self sasuke base/fan yet they never believe sasuke word

You do realize Naruto has praised Sasuke way more than Sasjke has of him right? So follow your own logic. Naruto said he needed the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke. So why are you claiming SM Naruto can defeat Naruto? Hyprocrite.



taka isn't sasuke summon you surely know that

Naruto gets SM prep time meaning, to be fair, Sasuke should get prep time aswell, which means Kirin.


To your first sentence, let me lol at your face a little bit :lmao:
Massive shadow clones is the best jutsu that Naruto had been mastered for a very long time that those who read Naruto automatically know it. He abused the technique to quite extend that even many legendary ninja get surprised by it.
With 1 clone tactic, Kakashi defeated 30% Itachi ms genjutsu. Not to mention if Naruto just multi 10 clones, that amount is more than enough to counter genjutsu. Since Sasuke knows Naruto style, he is not that stupid to use genjutsu cause 1 miss and he is out of batteries.

Now you want to minus Kyubii right ?
Let me lol at your face part 2 :lmao:
Kyubii is the reason Naruto can not enter sage mode as easy as he should able to. Pa stated this and thus he and Ma can not fuse with Naruto just because of that problem.
So minus Kyubii then Naruto will have Pa&Ma on his shoulder and he can perform SM without worrying about Kyubii and should able to create as many clones as he wish. But just to remind you that SM enchanced jutsu, not downgrade it.

Fail, Itachi didn't use MS jutsu against Kakashi, he used a finger Genjutsu. MS genjutsu (Tsukuyomi) took a toll on Sasuke, not Sharingan Genjutsu.

Naruto said he needed the Kyuubi's chakra to fight Sasuke, obviously he felt that Sage Mode wasn't enough.

Naruto fanboys be irate.

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Imo Sasuke wins. SM NAruto that fought Pein can hardly keep up sage mode and sadly MS Sasukes stamina trumps the rate of which NAruto can keep up sage mode without prepped clones.

Frog Kata is irrevelant when sasuke has chidori nagashi which has a farther range not to mention a sword.

Frog summons irrelevant when they are easily exposed to amaterasu and genjutsu which would put sasuke at an advantage when he summons snakes.

FRS iirrelevant to susanoo

If Naruto runs out of sage mode susanoo arrows will end him and naruto doesn't even have the speed feats to dodge it. His speed would have to be above kakashi in the pein arc and on par with ay.

Well said. Althought The Arrows were to fast for Kakashi to dodge physically.

 
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