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U lack reading comprehension. The crows seen by NARUTO are illusions cast by a clone. Not once did i mention kabuto. Moreover the two scans that you shown is a kabuto already in izanami, and as such has no bearings on itachi(or his clones) actual ability. Kabuto wouldn't be mentioning dejavu if that wasn't the case given the fact that he himself picked up on izanami extremely late.

So spare me.

Why the hell are you bringing up Naruto seeing Itachi's Crow Clones as an Illusion? That wasn't the consensus of the topic ANYWAY, you're completely swerving the subject. :lmao: The consensus was that Crow Clones were animate, not mere illusions, the scan of Naruto seeing the illusive crow made from Itachi's clones was merely an example of Crow Clones dispersion. :lol:

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"Inheriting his master's powers." - "A technique that produces a clone by projecting one's own chakra towards dozens of crows."

Go home, you're drunk. Hold your L bruh.
 

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looooooooooooooooooool
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What are you laughing about? The Crow (Chakra - As seen with my above post; All of Itachi's crow clones contain his chakra) was sealed inside of Naruto. The Eye was already implanted. It takes Chakra to seal chakra.

Lol.. You just took a reverse L.
 

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What are you laughing about? The Crow (Chakra - As seen with my above post; All of Itachi's crow clones contain his chakra) was sealed inside of Naruto. The Eye was already implanted. It takes Chakra to seal chakra.

Lol.. You just took a reverse L.
I didn't deny that. But in that topic, the chakra Itachi puts in his clones are ass, as it even says "less" that normal shadow clones. Itachi can't perform techniques with his crow clones. lmao stop trolling
 

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I didn't deny that. But in that topic, the chakra Itachi puts in his clones are ass, as it even says "less" that normal shadow clones. Itachi can't perform techniques with his crow clones. lmao stop trolling

No ones trolling. Since when did Chakra quantity = Chakra quality. Kakuzu is a prime example of such, stalemating two Raikiri (s-rank) with Raiton: Gian (B-Rank), not to mention he split the technique lessening the quality of the technique.

The potency of Amaterasu/Susano'o/Tsukuyomi are only dependent on how strong Itachi's chakra which is very potent - We've even seen Itachi trump Hebi Sasuke who had ALL OF OROCHIMARU'S CHAKRA in a battle of stamina. Don't come to me downplaying Itachi's chakra, and techniques.
 

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No ones trolling. Since when did Chakra quantity = Chakra quality. Kakuzu is a prime example of such, stalemating two Raikiri (s-rank) with Raiton: Gian (B-Rank), not to mention he split the technique lessening the quality of the technique.

The potency of Amaterasu/Susano'o/Tsukuyomi are only dependent on how strong Itachi's chakra which is very potent - We've even seen Itachi trump Hebi Sasuke who had ALL OF OROCHIMARU'S CHAKRA in a battle of stamina. Don't come to me downplaying Itachi's chakra, and techniques.
since there is a limit amount of chakra you have to spend to perform technique. :lol Itachi can't pull 5% of his chakra into a crow and tell it to perform susanoo
 

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since there is a limit amount of chakra you have to spend to perform technique. :lol Itachi can't pull 5% of his chakra into a crow and tell it to perform susanoo

Oh please calculate, and show me the % in which is minimum to conjure Susano'o/use Tsukuyomi and/or Amaterasu. :rolleyes:
 

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Oh please calculate, and show me the % in which is minimum to conjure Susano'o/use Tsukuyomi and/or Amaterasu. :rolleyes:
A failed Tsukuyomi got Itachi on his knees, showing how damaging MS techniques are to Itachi himself, let alone weak ass crow clones.
 

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A failed Tsukuyomi got Itachi on his knees, showing how damaging MS techniques are to Itachi himself, let alone weak ass crow clones.

Before his battle with Sasuke Itachi sent out two Karasu Bunshins [Crow Clones] to meet both Sasuke and Naruto [ ]-[ ]


> Itachi, not taking Sasuke serious yet, used genjutsu three times in a row as the fight commenced [ ]-[ ]- ]


> Itachi then used another Karasu Bunshin [ ], followed by a shunshin blitz [ ]


> Used one his chakra taxing MS techniques, Tsukiyomi [ ]

Itachi performed the above before the initial Tsukuyomi. Itachi then only faltered after having his Tsukuyomi countered due to the chakra vs chakra playout:

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Itachi was HIT WITH TSUKUYOMI due to Hebi Sasuke overpowering him due to The Cursed Seal + Orochimaru's original chakra. The chakra farce was in his favor because of those very advantages.

But what's amazing is that he not only dished out Tsukuyomi, but overcame it quickly.

___

Also don't act like chakra can't be transferred in bigger portions :rolleyes: Rasengan is the PERFECT example of such.
 

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Before his battle with Sasuke Itachi sent out two Karasu Bunshins [Crow Clones] to meet both Sasuke and Naruto [ ]-[ ]


> Itachi, not taking Sasuke serious yet, used genjutsu three times in a row as the fight commenced [ ]-[ ]- ]


> Itachi then used another Karasu Bunshin [ ], followed by a shunshin blitz [ ]
Which is absolutely nothing when you yourself provided proof for crow clones not being all that chakra taxing.

> Used one his chakra taxing MS techniques, Tsukiyomi [ ]

Itachi performed the above before the initial Tsukuyomi. Itachi then only faltered after having his Tsukuyomi countered due to the chakra vs chakra playout:

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Itachi was HIT WITH TSUKUYOMI due to Hebi Sasuke overpowering him due to The Cursed Seal + Orochimaru's original chakra. The chakra farce was in his favor because of those very advantages.

But what's amazing is that he not only dished out Tsukuyomi, but overcame it quickly.
Which has nothing to do with genjutsu battle, as that db entry is describing a ninjutsu battle. Sasuke broke tsukuyomi and Itachi felt the breakage. Nothing indicates Itachi was hit with Tsukuyomi.___
Also don't act like chakra can't be transferred in bigger portions :rolleyes: Rasengan is the PERFECT example of such.
I don't know what you mean here
 

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Which is absolutely nothing when you yourself provided proof for crow clones not being all that chakra taxing.


Which has nothing to do with genjutsu battle, as that db entry is describing a ninjutsu battle. Sasuke broke tsukuyomi and Itachi felt the breakage. Nothing indicates Itachi was hit with Tsukuyomi.___

I don't know what you mean here

That was showing events for Tsukuyomi, not the crows mate.

@ Bold - The title of the passage: "The logic of change in chakra nature": Now lets name all the chakra natures:

Fire
Water
Lightning
Wind
Earth

Those are the physical portions of chakra eg; Yang

Genjutsu

That is the spiritual portion of chakra eg; Yin.

Though discussing Yang, it's obvious Yin, as well any chakra vs chakra scenario is included due to the quote: "Because the loser is also hit with his own JUTSU"

He felt the overpowering of the technique, hence why he held onto his eye.

__

Rasengan is a prime example that chakra portions can be transferred in odd amounts:




Hence the many different variations of the basic Rasengan (excluding chakra nature transformation).
 
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@proof FT and anyone supporting itachi

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@proof FT and anyone supporting itachi

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Crows are instant.
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Tsukuyomi from Crows after Instant Summoning (Crow Summong & Kamui are both Instantaneous - Itachi using Tsukuyomi from his crows @ emergence > Kamui). Kakashi actually has to focus on his target which = Eye contact. Crows would block Kakashi's LoS (Line of Sight), disabling a clear shot of Kamui.

:sigar: Itachi solo god asf.
 
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Crows are instant.
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Tsukuyomi from Crows after Instant Summoning (Crow Summong & Kamui are both Instantaneous - Itachi using Tsukuyomi from his crows @ emergence > Kamui)

:sigar: Itachi solo god asf.

Kakashi ignores the clones. Just keeps looking at itachi's head, and warps it away.

Then roasts the crows for tomorrows breakfast.
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Kakashi ignores the clones. Just keeps looking at itachi's head, and warps it away.

Then roasts the crows for tomorrows breakfast.
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Kakashi actually has to focus on his target which = Eye contact. Crows would block Kakashi's LoS (Line of Sight), disabling a clear shot of Kamui.

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But but but but

That would imply Itachi starting the fight already substituted with the crows. Here, Itachi starts at location A and Kakashi at position B, and they start performing since second 0.

The real itachi never escapes

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But but but but

That would imply Itachi starting the fight already substituted with the crows. Here, Itachi starts at location A and Kakashi at position B, and they start performing since second 0.

The real itachi never escapes

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Itachi doesn't need to substitute himself with a Crow Clone, his Summoning Animal is the Crow; This means he can summons the animal instantly (though he is capable of such without the drawing of blood, and hand placements) as I'd shown here:

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One crow would Tsukuyomi Kakashi, the other dozen would seclude Itachi's positioning through transparency manipulation:

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(The image above shows dispersion of a crow clone, but the first pic shows a multitude of crows being instantly summoned. Itachi would perform image #1 to then perform image #2 visual blockage).

Itachi > DMS Kakashi. :sigar: When it comes to battles of instantaneous beginnings to endings, Itachi is the greatest. :cool:
 
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Itachi doesn't need to substitute himself with a Crow Clone, his Summoning Animal is the Crow; This means he can summons the animal instantly (though he is capable of such without the drawing of blood, and hand placements) as I'd shown here:

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One crow would Tsukuyomi Kakashi, the other dozen would seclude Itachi's positioning through transparency manipulation:

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(The image above shows dispersion of a crow clone, but the first pic shows a multitude of crows being instantly summoned. Itachi would perform image #1 to then perform image #2 visual blockage).

Itachi > DMS Kakashi. :sigar: When it comes to battles of instantaneous beginnings to endings, Itachi is the greatest. :cool:

Yes i know what you mean.

We have a totally different perspective on how fast Kakashi's kamui is. For the moment the crow reaches enough distance to cast genjutsu at Kakashi, Itachi is already on the other dimension, not to mention, the crows can't completely block Kakashi's LoS so Kakashi never loses track of Itachi's body (If he gets a look of a leg or an arm it's still enough), ignoring any kind of diversion Itachi can make.

Visual blockage isn't usefull against a jutsu that only needs a small part of the body. Also, the crows casting genjutsu on Kakashi would require they actually geting in front of Kakashi's face to force visual contact before Kamui warps Itachi.

Not to mention, given the size of Kakashi's biggest warp, it's not crazy to think he can warp the crows along with Itachi as soon as they leave Itachi's body. They won't reach a safe distance on time given their slow flying speed. Kakashi can warp on a gedo mazo's arm diameter. The crows would get sucked in along with him.

Also, could you provide a link of Itachi using genjutsu via his crows?
 
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