Storm 4 Itachi vs BM Minato

[Rιver]

didnt read 99% of arguments on each side, but solely based on that phrase, I think he meant that Sasuke got a portion of Itachi's chakra, thus inheriting a part of itachi's power. He should have elaborated on that first sentence.

Are you bad.

How do you get his power without inheriting all his chakra? Do you mean jutsu? Do you mean his looks? I'm confused af rn.

Nagato got portion of Madaras chakra and because of that his Rinnegan was ass. Same with Obito. Kakashis Kamui was also ass at first.

Also I don't give a damn about the debate, I was linked this thread and good god did they link for a reason.

Wait hold up, aren't you that retarded iKratos? Hahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Why tf am I replying to this guy, get the **** off my sight you n00b.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

it does have some of Itachi's chakra in them, since they were Itachi's. Obito almost losing himself to rinnegan's chakra is another fact.

The ems process is slightly different from just inserting a ( sharingan byakugan or rinnegan )
When gaining ems u don't gain the abilties of the eyes you insert you just enhance your original abilities

While in the other processes its confirmed you gain the abilities and I guess chakra to use them if you can handle it.

 

[KidGamer65]

All thats been confirmed for EMS is it removes strain and chakra tax for ms abilities. It can be inferred that ems gives a chakra boost. How much and by what means is never stated which makes KG argument EMS Sasuke has both itachi & sasukes chakra a a theory

Its a stated fact that he got something of Itachis from getting his eyeballs. Its a stated fact that chakra of the user is inside their Dojutsu. Obito confirms. Ao confirms as well. Combinr that with the fact that Sasuke has none of Itachis abilties and anyone who isnt a half wit realizes that he got Itachis power.

The amount is irrelevant to the main point, which is power, and the means are already stated. Unless Itachis chakra is that much stronger than Sasukes, which it isnt...assuming it is stronger, getting Itachis power puts him above Itachi.

Lets start using what little brain power we have and learn the difference between a simple theory, and a conclusion reached by pure manga fact.

 

[Lord Tywin]

:lol I don't know if I fucked River's entire family before, but I don't know why he's that upset.

The ems process is slightly different from just inserting a ( sharingan byakugan or rinnegan )
When gaining ems u don't gain the abilties of the eyes you insert you just enhance your original abilities

While in the other processes its confirmed you gain the abilities and I guess chakra to use them if you can handle it.

it does make a bit of sense

 

[BLAZE]

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[KidGamer65]

:lol I don't know if I fucked River's entire family before, but I don't know why he's that upset.


it does make a bit of sense

"My site" he says. Lmfao. Classic River.

 

[Rιver]

"My site" he says. Lmfao. Classic River.

Nice reading comprehension br0.

But thx for calling me classic.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh. You meant vision. Lmfao. Next time say get OUT OF my sight. Not OFF MY. I figured you didnt knoe the difference between sight and site. Which wouldnt be surprising.

 

[shelke]

People believe Sasuke actually has Itachi's eyes, when the guy lacks his techs, not to mention he casts genjutsu and amaterasu from different eyes ... the way it was before?

 

[KidGamer65]

He only has his eyes in the physical sense, as that is how you gain EMS in the first place.

 

[BLAZE]

People believe Sasuke actually has Itachi's eyes

yes :|
Though his EMS is combination of both their Mangekyo's boosting Sasuke's ocular power

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Its a stated fact that he got something of Itachis from getting his eyeballs. Its a stated fact that chakra of the user is inside their Dojutsu. Obito confirms. Ao confirms as well. Combinr that with the fact that Sasuke has none of Itachis abilties and anyone who isnt a half wit realizes that he got Itachis power.

The something is what vague. The users chakra is not inside the eyes. It was only confirmed there was chakra in the rinnegan. Obito and Ao are speaking about completely different things then the topic of ems.

The amount is irrelevant to the main point, which is power, and the means are already stated. Unless Itachis chakra is that much stronger than Sasukes, which it isnt...assuming it is stronger, getting Itachis power puts him above Itachi.

My point is EMS gives a boost. But it can't be proven that its equivalent to Itachi's chakra. Yes the boost makes ems power over itachi's but again how much/ how little we can't prove.

Lets start using what little brain power we have and learn the difference between a simple theory, and a conclusion reached by pure manga fact.

Give me a break lmaoo. Out of the 2 scans one is vague and the other has nothing to do with the ems process.

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in the chakra network there is a chakra point next to the eyes thats what he's seeing with byakugan

 

[Great Master Minato]

Isn't EMS = 2 siblings merged MS's? It was established in the Manga then what are you arguing about guys?

 

[KidGamer65]

Uh no. Ao straight up said that Shisuis chakra is in his eyeball. Rikudo chakra is what Madara got when he merged his and hashiramas chakra. That is what brought out the Rinnegan. Thus a portion of that power is in there too.

Never said it was equivalent amount wise. Nor does it need to be.

One scan states that the users eyes contains his chakra. EMS is gained by transplanting anothers eye. Do the math. The only difference with EMS is that it takes that power and merges it with your own.

 

[KidGamer65]

Isn't EMS = 2 siblings merged MS's? It was established in the Manga then what are you arguing about guys?

EMS is gained by one person taking anothers MS. Then the power of both merges, but not the eyeball itself. The argument is, does Itachis eye grant Sasuke his chakra.

 

[shelke]

yes :|
Though his EMS is combination of both their Mangekyo's boosting Sasuke's ocular power

No. EMS is a fusion of MS pairs. The manga explained it very clearly through the mask analogy with four eye sacrifices. The databook doesn't refute it either.

Isn't EMS = 2 siblings merged MS's? It was established in the Manga then what are you arguing about guys?

The mask explanation made it damn explicit enough.

 

[Great Master Minato]

EMS is gained by one person taking anothers MS. Then the power of both merges, but not the eyeball itself. The argument is, does Itachis eye grant Sasuke his chakra.

Do you mean Sasuke replaced Itachi's eyes with his own eyes to merge their Chakra's? I thought the eyes themselves were merged...(the whole eye sacrifice thing & four eyed mask...)

 

[BLAZE]

No. EMS is a fusion of MS pairs.

I said the same

The manga explained it very clearly through the mask analogy with four eye sacrifices. The databook doesn't refute it either.

Yeah and its Itachi's eyes Physically read my Post again :|

in the chakra network there is a chakra point next to the eyes thats what he's seeing with byakugan

He clearly states eyes :|

 

[Zealous Sparks]

He clearly states eyes :|

The eyes are attached to his body thus the chakra from his chakra network flows into them. Similar to how madaras can use susanoo without eyes. Because sharingans power comes from the brains chakra network.

 

[BLAZE]

The eyes are attached to his body thus the chakra from his chakra network flows into them. Similar to how madaras can use susanoo without eyes. Because sharingans power comes from the brains chakra network.

and your point here is :|

He is talking about ocular gejutsu and u cannot cast Ocular genjutsu without Eyes.He clearly and specifically points out "Even his Right Eye"