How legit is this double standard?

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[Pumpkin Ninja]

Yeah, I guess it's not taken seriously enough.

If a man gets rape, his masculinity is also felt like it's lost and not just to others but to himself too. The humiliation/domination that comes with rape (which most people claim is the worst factor of rape) is worse for men too, as men are more insecure about being dominated or humiliated in any way. If a woman gets raped, it's more like the rapist is a total monster and needs to be killed. The feeling isn't as strong for when the victim is a man.


That video was funny af, though.

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

All I heard was cereal rape

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Dave Chappelle is the funniest comedian though.

 

[Dark Sonic]

The chivalry is dead is even better. "GOTCHA B&TCH!"

 

[A$AP Wap]

Can you post a summary of what the video is about in the thread?
I hate walking into a thread and the OP says "now go here to see what I'm talm bout" with no description but a vague tittle

 

[BlazeRelease]

Rape is rape. Blah blah blah.

Double standards "..." "..." You get the point.

Here's s tip; don't take social standard tips from the masses, they are usually wrong.

 

[Avani]

Yeah, I guess it's not taken seriously enough.

If a man gets rape, his masculinity is also felt like it's lost and not just to others but to himself too. The humiliation/domination that comes with rape (which most people claim is the worst factor of rape) is worse for men too, as men are more insecure about being dominated or humiliated in any way. If a woman gets raped, it's more like the rapist is a total monster and needs to be killed. The feeling isn't as strong for when the victim is a man.


That video was funny af, though.

Problem is that when someone get raped by a female people either jump at the opportunity to go ham over feminist movement itself somehow blaming every feminist woman out there or start laughing telling the guy who got raped that he scored. Neither are helpful reactions and this leads to trivialization of the issue.

And interestingly the number of men raped by women is still lower than men raped by other MEN. They are the ones who often go though more severe injuries, trauma, social repercussions similar to women and need medical help but they are the ones who are most likely of all rape victims to lie about the real cause of injuries and keep their mouth shut about it.

Just putting this here though I know when I comment on this topic I find some people get their feathers ruffled and have been smarting under it for months. I found the situation rather unfortunate even because I expected better from them- people mix up their personal issues against feminists and it becomes gender wars.

Latest trend is that to get support from a section of men( often pretty vocal and on front-line) a woman has to bash on feminists and insist she is not one of them to be treated with basic respect and consideration. Fast route to get popular among men= support the traditional woman concept. Basically- turning feminism in to some kind of "dirty word" and every crazy comment from a woman is fault of all feminists but reasonable comments are considered individual opinion and not extended to rest of the people recognized as feminists. So talking about double standard goes a long way. This is perhaps how it first times started- pushing women's voice and concerns in general in the corner some 2000 to 2500 years ago but whatever.

 

[Anorien16]

Problem is that when someone get raped by a female people either jump at the opportunity to go ham over feminist movement itself somehow blaming every feminist woman out there or start laughing telling the guy who got raped that he scored. Neither are helpful reactions and this leads to trivialization of the issue.

Just so you know Ira the Western Third Wave Radical Feminists are not the sensible kind ... but they are loudest and usually has more power now a days. Please consider the fact that just because some people go nut bags while dealing with nut bags there is no sanity in the matter.

(I am talking about this kind of Feminists:

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..... Not the kind Fighting in our Rural Areas or Saudi Arabia.)

The Feminist Movement is not a monolith of homogeneous ideas and people.

And interestingly the number of men raped by women is still lower than men raped by other MEN. They are the ones who often go though more severe injuries, trauma, social repercussions similar to women and need medical help but they are the ones who are most likely of all rape victims to lie about the real cause of injuries and keep their mouth shut about it.

Its simple matter of daring, strength and power (Which many women are relatively lacking in) ... Much like burglary, it requires some criteria to be successful.
Also the reason they keep shut is quite clear really ... Remember the cases of bias we talked about? (I think this story might spread some light on the Government reluctance:

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Latest trend is that to get support from a section of men( often pretty vocal and on front-line) a woman has to bash on feminists and insist she is not one of them to be treated with basic respect and consideration. Fast route to get popular among men= support the traditional woman concept. Basically- turning feminism in to some kind of "dirty word" and every crazy comment from a woman is fault of all feminists but reasonable comments are considered individual opinion and not extended to rest of the people recognized as feminists. So talking about double standard goes a long way. This is perhaps how it first times started- pushing women's voice and concerns in general in the corner some 2000 to 2500 years ago but whatever.

Who is reponsible for that actually?

Sexist Air Conditioning (Survey found that women prefer 2 degree of higher temperature and really didnt ask men about their preferences) :

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That Hoola Boola over the Shirt in the event of Probe Landing.

Diversity officer who banned whites from her 'anti-racism' event at British university wiping away fake tear in front of 'no white men' sign:

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(Funnily that lady will be taken to court for tweeting something like KillAllMen or something)

Making up Manspreading and criminalizing it:

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International Castration Day:

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etc etc etc

Such 'Feminists' tend to make things easy.

Funnily this is comparable to how all men are though responsible for the crimes of the few.

 

[Yubel]

Yes it's a double standard. Apparently in todays world only the loudest person gets listened to which are women and feminist.

 

[Avani]

Just so you know Ira the Western Third Wave Radical Feminists are not the sensible kind ... but they are loudest and usually has more power now a days. Please consider the fact that just because some people go nut bags while dealing with nut bags there is no sanity in the matter.

(I am talking about this kind of Feminists:

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..... Not the kind Fighting in our Rural Areas or Saudi Arabia.)

The Feminist Movement is not a monolith of homogeneous ideas and people.

Let me start with making a fact very clear: You missed my pointe.

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  It's not a defined and organized ideology people convert to- so of course it's not homogeneous. I even said it my post. As a matter of fact I complained about people who treat it so. So you are telling me something I already covered.
  
  Even
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  is quite a divergent group.
  
  While I understand that you are probably referring to women who try to use feminist ideology to justify anything stupid or selfish they do, the link you provided fails to make that point. This is from that article:
  
  

  ....
  The women machinists on the Indian Ocean island of Mauritius sleep 16 to a room – and earn much less than the average wage on the island......
  
  The shirts have been worn by Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Harriet Harman, all keen to display their feminist credentials – even though the Deputy Prime Minister last night admitted he had ‘no idea’ where the garments were made.
  
  But The Mail on Sunday has toured a factory producing the T-shirts, where workers earn just 6,000 rupees a month –
  
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  Well, it suggests that the British Minister should not be wearing a Tshirt made in that factory in Mauritius women or should have found out who made the shirt in the factory and how much they were paid before buying it...
  
  It did confirm that those women had dire working conditions and are being paid less than average in their country butbut since they wore it, it's now the fault of feminists that wore Tshirt made by these women.
  
  I should make an extensive research on who is making it and what the factory conditions are before buying a T shirt next time, lest someone comes at me accusing me of buying a T shirt from an underpaid woman. Not sure if it would really improve situation of those women and raise wadges if their Tshirts are not sold or it lays them off the work and struggling more in Mauritius...but that's not important, I guess.
  

Its simple matter of daring, strength and power (Which many women are relatively lacking in) ... Much like burglary, it requires some criteria to be successful.
Also the reason they keep shut is quite clear really ... Remember the cases of bias we talked about? (I think this story might spread some light on the Government reluctance:

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• Yea, I think they should have their own center if they are apprehensive of living in a shelter where women too are allowed. While at it they also need shelter for transgender males.
  
  
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Who is reponsible for that actually?

People are responsible for their own actions- At least if they are adults and deem themselves mature.

Sexist Air Conditioning (Survey found that women prefer 2 degree of higher temperature and really didnt ask men about their preferences) :

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And? Now women cannot even talk about Air conditioner temperature in a women's life column? smh

It's 2 point difference- how about meet half way and raise it one point more? You may save energy and reduce your electricity bill too. That's what me and my husband did- I am not sure if it's because I am a female but I get chilblain too easily along with catching cold, while he likes to keep temp too low so we had to make a few arrangements to suit us both.

That Hoola Boola over the Shirt in the event of Probe Landing.

It's called Twitter chaos.

Welcome to the world of celebrity- people gossip over fashion faux pause all the time. Some times they have a point at others they are just missing the bigger picture and being silly. And their friends get on the bandwagon as a mob.

Diversity officer who banned whites from her 'anti-racism' event at British university wiping away fake tear in front of 'no white men' sign:

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(Funnily that lady will be taken to court for tweeting something like KillAllMen or something)

The notice was removed. The event was for " women of coloured skin". Not sure why white men want to attend such a meeting but she gave excuse that she wanted the target audience to more free- it's not that different case than the barber shop

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and said having a woman in the shop ruined the atmosphere. Both had to bite their words.

Making up Manspreading and criminalizing it:

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I haven't read that article before but- manspreading is a stupid term. People when traveling by a crowded public transport should behave more considerately and not be taking extra space be it men or women. And they shouldn't have to be told by law to not do so.

International Castration Day:

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Such 'Feminists' tend to make things easy.

So are you going to take up every internet troll's attention seeker fart on tumbler and make a case against the feminist movement now?

If such feminists makes it easy and that's who reason for you discrediting the movement then exactly what's the difference between you reactionary approach and their reactionary approach? Should I take every women hating post on net seriously and throw a fit over it and show it as a proof of men being tyrant criminals?

If some idiotic feminist in USA are good enough to discredit the whole movement then what about Female Feticide culprits in other parts of the world should be enough to discredit all men's right groups, isn't it? After all when khap is accused of ordering rape, and women are being shot for not wearing hijab properly that too should be taken seriously. Or do actual violence values less than idiotic blabbering on internet by a small group?

Funnily this is comparable to how all men are though responsible for the crimes of the few.

There is a difference between institutionalized exploitation or oppression backed by established social norms and political power and individual doing the same thing. Not all men are involved in such actions but they are in power in almost every field and sitting on top position in most places, and in media . It's not like all misogynist are extinct. They are as much out there as racist people and more so because being racist now is a negative notion but being sexist. Sexist jokes have only became more vicious. You are choosing to ignore them while focusing on handful of stupid feminists who have access to tumbler and more interested in getting hits on their profile.

 

[Anorien16]

Let me start with making a fact very clear: You missed my pointe.

I know your point but you yourself fall victim of your own point.

• 
  It's not a defined and organized ideology people convert to- so of course it's not homogeneous. I even said it my post. As a matter of fact I complained about people who treat it so. So you are telling me something I already covered.
  
  Even
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  is quite a divergent group.

• 
  
  'Divergent' doesnt mean not getting 'unpopular' or 'powerless'
  
  

  While I understand that you are probably referring to women who try to use feminist ideology to justify anything stupid or selfish they do, the link you provided fails to make that point.
  
  Well, it suggests that the British Minister should not be wearing a Tshirt made in that factory in Mauritius women or should have found out who made the shirt in the factory and how much they were paid before buying it...
  
  It did confirm that those women had dire working conditions and are being paid less than average in their country butbut since they wore it, it's now the fault of feminists that wore Tshirt made by these women.
  
  I should make an extensive research on who is making it and what the factory conditions are before buying a T shirt next time, lest someone comes at me accusing me of buying a T shirt from an underpaid woman. Not sure if it would really improve situation of those women and raise wadges if their Tshirts are not sold or it lays them off the work and struggling more in Mauritius...but that's not important, I guess.

  
  
  No Ira ... The matter is bit different. Yes there was a considerable shit flinging with the Minister not wanting to to wear a stupid shirt and I really care abt that. But the thing that angers me: A significantly powerful western feminist lobby group not really caring about women to earn power and profit (Those shirts cost more than 20 Pounds I think ... a huge margin of profit) ... and they were so well connected that they themselves declared themselves not guilty and banned the reporters who uncovered the scenario from visiting Mauritius.
  
  

  Yea, I think they should have their own center if they are apprehensive of living in a shelter where women too are allowed. While at it they also need shelter for transgender males.
  
  

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-_- the article is the very reason behind *** segregated shelters aka safety.

Also the article is also the reason why we dont allow transgenders in to the girls washrooms.

And? Now women cannot even talk about Air conditioner temperature in a women's life column? smh

Ofc .... But if you talk stupidly in that dont expect flowers and praise.

It's 2 point difference- how about meet half way and raise it one point more? You may save energy and reduce your electricity bill too. That's what me and my husband did- I am not sure if it's because I am a female but I get chilblain too easily along with catching cold, while he likes to keep temp too low so we had to make a few arrangements to suit us both.

There you go ..... The so called 'study' totally ignores the fact that people tune the Air Conditioning according to their needs and preferences, there is no AC temperature regulations anywhere and people can just ask to modify it a bit. This is a total non issue but was persented as a systematic sexist and misogynistic problem.

It's called Twitter chaos.

Welcome to the world of celebrity- people gossip over fashion faux pause all the time. Some times they have a point at others they are just missing the bigger picture and being silly. And their friends get on the bandwagon as a mob.

Thus it has no effects .... right?

Tim Hunt, Noble Prize Winner Biologist totally did not have to resign after a woman falsified her report (who also falsified her own CV ... funnily) and provoked a twitter mob against him.

The notice was removed. The event was for "women of coloured skin". Not sure why white men want to attend such a meeting but she gave excuse that she wanted the target audience to more free- it's not that different case than the barber shop

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and said having a woman in the shop ruined the atmosphere. Both had to bite their words.

Dont be stupid Ira ... A Private Business is different from Public Uni Gathering. I cant just expect to charge into a Female only Parlor and asked to be treated and not cause the women inside some discomfort. (Which that Men's Parlor was Parodying I think)

Also the issue of the event was this part: ".... Also, if you’ve been invited and you’re a man and/or white PLEASE DON’T COME ...." ... In what 'Women of color' event are non target demographics invited and THEN asked not to come?

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Also tell me if this poster is not specifically meant to taunt and looks totally non official?

I haven't read that article before but- manspreading is a stupid term. People when traveling by a crowded public transport should behave more considerately and not be taking extra space be it men or women. And they shouldn't have to be told by law to not do so.

That is what normal people would do .... But when this is the usual achievement of Feminists ... People will tend to take it less seriously.

So are you going to take up every internet troll's attention seeker fart on tumbler and make a case against the feminist movement now?

I am not.

But in the age of social media you underestimate the effect of things like this .... These chip away at the reputation of Feminism. And people like you let these tards ruin the name of feminism by ignoring them.

If such feminists makes it easy and that's who reason for you discrediting the movement then exactly what's the difference between you reactionary approach and their reactionary approach? Should I take every women hating post on net seriously and throw a fit over it and show it as a proof of men being tyrant criminals?

I will not throw a fit. But will you once consider that when these shit hits mainstream ... they are not exactly good PR.

If some idiotic feminist in USA are good enough to discredit the whole movement then what about Female Feticide culprits in other parts of the world should be enough to discredit all men's right groups, isn't it?

Which has been my point all along .... The Unusual Mainstream Western Feminists are a shame to the movement and wallows in their first world problems.

Also ... 1. Even Mothers often participate in Female Foeticide 2. MRAs don't have much credit or sway anyway.

After all when khap is accused of ordering rape, and women are being shot for not wearing hijab properly that too should be taken seriously. Or do actual violence values less than idiotic blabbering on internet by a small group?

Now I have sincere question .... Show me one self identified feminist who cares .... I care about this issue ... You have no idea of the hate I have for such people ... But I am powerless. Show me one who has power but still cares. Which is why I think Feminist movement have become corrupted ... it has gathered so much power around its name that they don't care about grass root level issues that birthed it.

There is a difference between institutionalized exploitation or oppression backed by established social norms and political power and individual doing the same thing.

Thus the way of dealing with them is different ... Institutions can be changed by Public power but Social norms are tough to change, through education and awareness may change it slowly. In India things are worse in rural areas thing are worse because (I think) educated people never return to the villages en masse.

Not all men are involved in such actions but they are in power in almost every field and sitting on top position in most places, and in media.

You will find that these men in power really doesn't care about other men too.

It's not like all misogynist are extinct.

They never will be.

But we have more support for Female Education, Equal Pay/Rights than ever .... but things not change. That really bothers me.

They are as much out there as racist people and more so because being racist now is a negative notion but being sexist.

Actually both are now in same situation. I think you have seen 'progressive' people being casually racist while denying it. :wink:

Sexist jokes have only became more vicious.

Honestly Ira ... What you do or say in the sanctity of your privacy is not my worry. As long as you dont behave sexist/racist towards others or apologize when appropriate then it fine imo.

You are choosing to ignore them while focusing on handful of stupid feminists who have access to tumbler and more interested in getting hits on their profile.

I really dont care about them .... I am baffled why the powerful don't ignore them (or better dismantle them). You remember how Jasleen Kaur got rewards and publicity and all ... But that case of not wearing Borqua or Being punished with rape by the panchayat didnt see much light. (Heck ... most people dont know that Khap Panchayats are illegal)