[Discussion] Magellan vs luffy

[Venomous Cobra]

g3/2 luffy wins high diff, g4 ain't even needed. Elephant Gatling ends his career, pre skip g2 luffy had no problem dodging most of his attacking, it's just that he couldn't touch him, now with koka he would simply murder him.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

This is why we have portrayal. Magellan was portrayed to be on another level compared to guys like Ivankov and Jimbei. Just like Teach was to a lesser extent, so getting hurt by pre skip Luffy, doesn't erase his portrayal. Ivankov should atleast be post skip M3 level and he got low-mid diffed by Magellan, THAT is what pretty much overrides pre skip Luffy hurting Magellan since we've seen a post skip M3 level character suffering a similar fate to Luffy.

So that whole "Oh Magellan doesn't have any feats against strong characters" deal doesn't work.

Ivankov?low diff'ed? bruh what the...

here mallegan clearly states that ivan's main goal is to waste time, you can clearly see ivan not taking the fight seriously at all by trolling with his make up face

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Seconds later, ivan comes in to help luffy and then others with no injuries/burns or even scratches

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Mallegan and with all that poison couldn't even injure ivan even a little.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ivankov?low diff'ed? bruh what the...

here mallegan clearly states that ivan's main goal is to waste time, you can clearly see ivan not taking the fight seriously at all by trolling with his make up face

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Seconds later, ivan comes in to help luffy and then others with no injuries/burns or even scratches

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Mallegan and with all that poison couldn't even injure ivan even a little.

NO BOY LMAOOOO

Iva charges Magellan here and Magellan arrives in the same page. We don't know how much time has passed, but it can be assumed to not be a lot.

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Magellan arrives here

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Ivankov was defeated in the poison for everything happening in these pages

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But yeah dude "seconds" later.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

NO BOY LMAOOOO

Iva charges Magellan here and Magellan arrives in the same page. We don't know how much time has passed, but it can be assumed to not be a lot.

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Magellan arrives here

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Ivankov was defeated in the poison for everything happening in these pages

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But yeah dude "seconds" later.

How was he "defeated" when he's later shown fine and well which clearly suggested that he could have continued the fight? more importantly, why are you spamming those pages as if there's some kind of outstanding argument behind them?:lol the dressrosa arc was going for nearly 2 years and possibily over 100 chapters yet in actual time, it was all one day if not few hours(2-5 hours), go watch the anime, you'll notice it was merely few seconds and at the very best a minute or 2.


Ivan was never defeated, he was trolling, and mallegan himself proved it, he was fine and well after all that poison, we might as well say doffy was defeated when law stabbed him with gamma knife. :lol

 

[Punk Hazard]

How was he "defeated" when he's later shown fine and well which clearly suggested that he could have continued the fight? more importantly, why are you spamming those pages as if there's some kind of outstanding argument behind them?:lol the dressrosa arc was going for nearly 2 years and possibily over 100 chapters yet in actual time, it was all one day if not few hours(2-5 hours), go watch the anime, you'll notice it was merely few seconds and at the very best a minute or 2.


Ivan was never defeated, he was trolling, and mallegan himself proved it, he was fine and well after all that poison, we might as well say doffy was defeated when law stabbed him with gamma knife. :lol

Defeated. Incapacitated. Knocked out. In submission. However you wanna say it. Magellan knocked Iva out of commission for what was clearly a relatively long period of time. Your "back seconds later" is complete BS. If you really, truly think all of that happened in 3-4 seconds, you might be dumber than Luffy. Those are the pages in between Iva being knocked out of commission by Magellan and Iva returning to a state that he could move and fight again.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Defeated. Incapacitated. Knocked out. In submission.
However you wanna say it. Magellan knocked Iva out of commission for what was clearly a relatively long period of time. Your "back seconds later" is complete BS. If you really, truly think all of that happened in 3-4 seconds, you might be dumber than Luffy. Those are the pages in between Iva being knocked out of commission by Magellan and Iva returning to a state that he could move and fight again.

Lml that moment when you're so desperate that you mention non-existent stuff, who the **** said anything about 3-4 seconds? You do know the word "few" can describe a number up to 20 in some dictionaries right? and no, it was no longer than a minute, 1 chapter and 15 can never be described as "long period of time" when 100 chapters were only one day in actual time in OPV,so please get shit logic out of here. The mere fact that iva was able to do something to nullify the effects of the poison proves that he wasn't knocked out.

you say iva was "knocked out" but no

knock out
1. To render powerless or motionless, as by inflicting severe injury:
cripple, disable, immobilize, incapacitate, paralyze.
Idiom: put out of action.

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Now go ahead and explain how he was motionless or powerless when he's clearly able to come back to the battlefield with no scratches or injuries after a short period of time

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lml that moment when you're so desperate that you mention non-existent stuff, who the **** said anything about 3-4 seconds? You do know the word "few" can describe a number up to 20 in some dictionaries right? and no, it was no longer than a minute, 1 chapter and 15 can never be described as "long period of time" when 100 chapters were only one day in actual time in OPV,so please get shit logic out of here. The mere fact that iva was able to do something to nullify the effects of the poison proves that he wasn't knocked out.

you say iva was "knocked out" but no

knock out
1. To render powerless or motionless, as by inflicting severe injury:
cripple, disable, immobilize, incapacitate, paralyze.
Idiom: put out of action.

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Now go ahead and explain how he was motionless or powerless when he's clearly able to come back to the battlefield with no scratches or injuries after a short period of time

few
fyo͞o/Submit
adjective & pronoun
1.
a small number of.
"may I ask a few questions?"
synonyms: a small number, a handful, one or two, a couple, two or three

It was definitely longer than a minute

Iva was laying face-down in a pool of poison for a long time without moving or being able to do anything until his hormones kicked in and nullified the effects of the poison. Even then, all he could do was propel himself straight up using his Wink, and couldn't actually get up and move through the hole Magellan created and run to them. It's not like Iva knew the situation, he was a deus ex machina that just so happened to launch himself in the right spot. Please explain how Iva, who couldn't move or act for several moments, was not knocked out by that definition

 

[Venomous Cobra]

few
fyo͞o/Submit
adjective & pronoun
1.
a small number of.
"may I ask a few questions?"
synonyms: a small number, a handful, one or two, a couple, two or three

It was definitely longer than a minute

As I said the definition varies

Iva was laying face-down in a pool of poison for a long time without moving or being able to do anything until his hormones kicked in and nullified the effects of the poison. Even then, all he could do was propel himself straight up using his Wink, and couldn't actually get up and move through the hole Magellan created and run to them. It's not like Iva knew the situation, he was a deus ex machina that just so happened to launch himself in the right spot. Please explain how Iva, who couldn't move or act for several moments, was not knocked out by that definition

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"he got hit in the hit and passed out" not because he was unable to move XD

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and that's the point, if ivan was able to to heal himself after mallegan left, then he could surely heal himself while he was still there, ivan was just trying to waste time as mallegan sated and thus there was no need to engage in the battle again. Hell even his silly trollling mask was able to tank the poison without letting it reach his face.

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, I don't see why it would take ivankov who was way better in comparison longer.

 

[loj]

Yes, but Magellan can create new mixtures and new potencies. I wouldn't be surprised if Magellan could create a poison with a strain Luffy's immune system hasn't adapted too.

OT: I'd say Magellan wins in a close space mid diff, and Luffy wins in an open space high diff

Well that's an IF situation.From what we've seen Luffy with G4 and great haki while having great resistance vs Magella.

Im still going with Luffy high-extreme diff

 

[A v i]

I don't get whether if you guys lack the ability to grasp the actual point or being ignorant or it's just that I didn't make my point clear. I said Magellan is similar to Enel and Crocodile because he's as OP as he's mainly because of his fruit which is an irrefutable fact. I even said that he's much better than the other two. I don't know what part of it is so hard to understand. Would you guys feel happy if I say he's same as Teach? What would his status be without his fruits? He'd still be a decent fighter but He'd be nothing compared to his current self if it isn't for his OP devils fruits. Magellan is same.

Pre TS Luffy kept up with Magellan, avoided his attacks, inflected damage and all. What does that mean? It means that Post TS Luffy can do all those things without breaking a sweat. That's what I have been implying here. You guys are welcome to prove me wrong with enough evidence. Most powerful attacks? Lol. He took two direct hits from G2 Luffy, both of them left a considerable impact on the dude. Once again even pacifista can tank those attacks and shrug them off like nothing so at best all his durability feats are on the same level as that of a Pacifista which is hardly impressive for current standards of manga.

Regarding all that wank about him tanking attacks when Blackbeard suffered more. It's because of his ability. His sucks in pain more than anything else as stated by Teach. [

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] It's a flaw that comes from being YYnM user. That being said it's totally illogical to compare Magellan with Teach.

 

[ToshiZO]

I don't get whether if you guys lack the ability to grasp the actual point or being ignorant or it's just that I didn't make my point clear. I said Magellan is similar to Enel and Crocodile because he's as OP as he's mainly because of his fruit which is an irrefutable fact. I even said that he's much better than the other two. I don't know what part of it is so hard to understand. Would you guys feel happy if I say he's same as Teach? What would his status be without his fruits? He'd still be a decent fighter but He'd be nothing compared to his current self if it isn't for his OP devils fruits. Magellan is same.

Pre TS Luffy kept up with Magellan, avoided his attacks, inflected damage and all. What does that mean? It means that Post TS Luffy can do all those things without breaking a sweat. That's what I have been implying here. You guys are welcome to prove me wrong with enough evidence. Most powerful attacks? Lol. He took two direct hits from G2 Luffy, both of them left a considerable impact on the dude. Once again even pacifista can tank those attacks and shrug them off like nothing so at best all his durability feats are on the same level as that of a Pacifista which is hardly impressive for current standards of manga.

Regarding all that wank about him tanking attacks when Blackbeard suffered more. It's because of his ability. His sucks in pain more than anything else as stated by Teach. [

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] It's a flaw that comes from being YYnM user. That being said it's totally illogical to compare Magellan with Teach.

And yet BB took WB's and Sengoku's attack the same way as Luffy's jet pistol.

Also no....you mentioned Croc and Enel as if Magellan was made completely by his DF which is clearly not the case. Who cares if he's stronger that's not the point, we all know he's stronger that doesn't allow you to dodge the point. Point is once their DF's were exposed they were nothing as fighters, that didn't apply to Magellan.

And like I said Ivankov is a Post Skip M3 level fighter at the least, and he got dealt with rather quickly despite having ranged attacks. This proves he holds up well against high tiers post skip.

Ivankov?low diff'ed? bruh what the...

here mallegan clearly states that ivan's main goal is to waste time, you can clearly see ivan not taking the fight seriously at all by trolling with his make up face

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Seconds later, ivan comes in to help luffy and then others with no injuries/burns or even scratches

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Mallegan and with all that poison couldn't even injure ivan even a little.

Lol so you think Akainu didn't

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Ivankov as well eh?

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with no scratches after this too..........

Seconds later? Smh....

He got beat, thats all there is to it. And he got beat rather fast. If his job was to delay Magellan then he did a really shitty job at it.

 

[A v i]

And yet BB took WB's and Sengoku's attack the same way as Luffy's jet pistol.

Also no....you mentioned Croc and Enel as if Magellan was made completely by his DF which is clearly not the case. Who cares if he's stronger that's not the point, we all know he's stronger that doesn't allow you to dodge the point. Point is once their DF's were exposed they were nothing as fighters, that didn't apply to Magellan.

And like I said Ivankov is a Post Skip M3 level fighter at the least, and he got dealt with rather quickly despite having ranged attacks. This proves he holds up well against high tiers post skip.

Already addressed BB's part in previous post. And it's not my fault if you misunderstood my point. The point I was trying to make is that his raw skills are not on a level where they should be for someone of his general level. He's stronger than Iva but his raw skills are more or less same as that of pre skip Luffy due to which Luffy had no problems with keeping up with Magellan. Doffy who's pretty much on the same level as Magellan can blitz the shit out of pre skip Luffy and same goes for almost any decent fighter on Magellan's level. That's why I said he's similar to Crocodile and Enel.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

And yet BB took WB's and Sengoku's attack the same way as Luffy's jet pistol.

Also no....you mentioned Croc and Enel as if Magellan was made completely by his DF which is clearly not the case. Who cares if he's stronger that's not the point, we all know he's stronger that doesn't allow you to dodge the point. Point is once their DF's were exposed they were nothing as fighters, that didn't apply to Magellan.

And like I said Ivankov is a Post Skip M3 level fighter at the least, and he got dealt with rather quickly despite having ranged attacks. This proves he holds up well against high tiers post skip.




Lol so you think Akainu didn't

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Ivankov as well eh?

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with no scratches after this too..........

Seconds later? Smh....

He got beat, thats all there is to it. And he got beat rather fast. If his job was to delay Magellan then he did a really shitty job at it.

Not the same situation, pretty shitty analogy there.

 

[lelerskates]

Magellan is easily current top 10.

you were molested as a child, weren't you? You're an idiot.

 

[ToshiZO]

you were molested as a child, weren't you? You're an idiot.

lmfaooo.

 

[-Akuma-]

you were molested as a child, weren't you? You're an idiot.

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LMAO.