Konan vs Hanzo

[Curse Mark]

What?

The Kankuro one wasn't a great argument. You were speculating about something off screen.
However, with the new scans you provided it proved what you were saying.

 

[Draegod]

The Kankuro one wasn't a great argument. You were speculating about something off screen.
However, with the new scans you provided it proved what you were saying.

No it doesn't, mifune is imune to salamander poison, and literally had an antidote given to him. I'm busy and on phone but I'll destroy his post later on, though I thought it was well known mifune is immune to hanzos base poison.

 

[Curse Mark]

No it doesn't, mifune is imune to salamander poison, and literally had an antidote given to him. I'm busy and on phone but I'll destroy his post later on, though I thought it was well known mifune is immune to hanzos base poison.

oh wow ill be waiting. if thats true then back to square 1

 

[RedRobin]

No it doesn't, mifune is imune to salamander poison, and literally had an antidote given to him. I'm busy and on phone but I'll destroy his post later on, though I thought it was well known mifune is immune to hanzos base poison.

oh wow ill be waiting. if thats true then back to square 1

Doesnt change a thing. Wasnt even the point of my post

My evidence:

• 'Eat the poison and die'
• Salamander poison needs to be ingested
• 'breathing something in like that'

You have no evidence.

 

[Beans2]

So she'll blow her self up? Because the cloud was able to cover over 50 meters in under a second. How will she know when it's coming? If she goes to high her attacks are useless since they can be dodged, if she stays to close then she dies the moment she breathes or comes into contact. Hanzo can literally spit on her and watch her die or other methods.

Only way she can win is by literally leaving the fight which wouldn't be a win.

Sakura

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with just one paper bomb and it worked out fine for her. Konan can create an explosion much bigger than that with multiple paper bombs and can re-form herself

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...or she simply flies out of range, then send paper bombs into the cloud to disperse the poison.

Plus poison doesn't work on a paper body, that much should be obvious. Poison affects organs/flesh other organic living material...not paper. I honestly think Konan wins low diff.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Beans didn't get the memo. Mifune>Hanso>Sannin>Konan

 

[Zexion~]

She's already shown her paper form split from her head, and DB states her entire body is paper, so logic leads us to believe she has no organs in that form. And paper is replaceable, she creates the paper herself out of nothingness as shown when she was forming the paper disk vs Obito. Not to mention, her consciousness is spread throughout all her papers, which is how she teleported to Pain to give intel

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, and how she could form purely a head on paper [

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Yes but those are fully formed peices of paper, if they were sliced she would take some damage.

@Draegod, didn't see you said HIS poison.

 

[Icelerate]

Yes but those are fully formed peices of paper, if they were sliced she would take some damage.

@Draegod, didn't see you said HIS poison.

Hanzo can't slice her into more parts than she can split.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Hanzo has fire release, which is GG

 

[Curse Mark]

Hanzo has fire release, which is GG

It wasnt against jiraiya

 

[Lord Tywin]

It wasnt against jiraiya

No Hanzo said he has Katon

 

[Curse Mark]

No Hanzo said he has Katon

????? I meant it wasnt GG when she fought against jiraiya

 

[Lord Tywin]

????? I meant it wasnt GG when she fought against jiraiya

Oh.... But it was a single burst of katon. A couple more and she would be done for

 

[Zexion~]

Hanzo can't slice her into more parts than she can split.

Why not, if she splits then slices the paper in half, that would ultimately mean more pars would it not? Has she even shown the ability to repair a sliced paper back to its original form?

 

[Curse Mark]

Why not, if she splits then slices the paper in half, that would ultimately mean more pars would it not? Has she even shown the ability to repair a sliced paper back to its original form?

She doesn't need to. She can reform herself from any one piece of paper so unless he's gonna slice each piece of paper... yeah

 

[Draegod]

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Not to mention Hanzo states eat the poison and die. Salamander poison needs to be ingested.

@ Super yang as well since he likes disliking and not getting into the debate

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'breathing something in like that'

Nothing at all shows it is absorbed through skin.

Doesnt change a thing. Wasnt even the point of my post

My evidence:

• 'Eat the poison and die'
• Salamander poison needs to be ingested
• 'breathing something in like that'

You have no evidence.

First off Mifune is for a fact

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(summon) poison so your first post is null and void.

You misinterpreted the manga Yet again RR. Poison does not need to be ingested in order for it to be effective (life fact). Toxin's and chemicals (poison) can simply be absorbed through your skin if Potent enough or strong enough (life fact). When hanzo told Mifune to eat the poison 1: he didnt know

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, 2: He literally seen Mifune inhale a

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, then proceeded to say "eat the poison and die" as a result. 3: It takes a while for the absorb affect to happen but the inhale affect is obviously quicker to your blood stream. 4: Mifune is covered head to toe except his head and mouth/nose which makes easy access to your inner body thus blood stream.

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He is literally the only ninja blocking his mouth and Nose! This is indisputable!! The fellow ninjas in the red who didnt block the inhale and concentrated Poison are literally knocked out!! Kankuro who later was able to talk even though his body went numb didnt receive the same affects as his comrades because he for a fact blocked the poison (i literally zoomed in! Mifune when younger and wasn't immune to his poison when in contact (whether absorbed or not, doesn't matter)

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Then ofc to end the notion that skin contact isn't affected is the fact he himself literally stated "I can envenomate nearby ppl JUST BY BREATHING ON THEM" Do you know what "ON THEM" means??? that means NO Injection, NO Inhale on there part, No Breach of Skin. This is literally Manga proof his poison is that deadly! Only a Idiot would deny at this point, But just incase some one is an idiot:

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nearby
adverb or adjective near·by \nir-ˈbī, ˈnir-ˌ\
: not far away : located at a short distance from someone or something

A short distance is atleast with in 5 meters People! With out his mask ALL CLOSE COMBAT will get you killed just by being by him! Manga fact!

Jiongu is clearly different from Konan’s ninjutsu. The tentacles emerge from inside of Kakuzu’s body. They have little to no similarity to Konan's ability, which alters her body and organs entirely into paper sheets.

Incorrect! Unlike Kakuzu's tech His inners are always That black stuff! While

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like Suigetsu is water or Sasori is puppet.
Manga fact; When any of her body isn't in "paper chakra form" he is vulnerable to ALL REAL LIFE AFFECTS! Manga fact! For example; If her chest is in Human mode and she gets stabbed she bleeds! If her face/head is in human form and gets scratched and poison her entire body in general is affected!

Manga fact number two: she cannot Turn a body part that is binded by an opponent into paper, she has to preform into paper in advance based on manga facts. Proof will be handed as soon as the first person denies it!

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with just one paper bomb and it worked out fine for her. Konan can create an explosion much bigger than that with multiple paper bombs and can re-form herself

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...or she simply flies out of range, then send paper bombs into the cloud to disperse the poison.

Plus poison doesn't work on a paper body, that much should be obvious. Poison affects organs/flesh other organic living material...not paper. I honestly think Konan wins low diff.

You simply do not get it-it would seem. Sasori's Poison isn't Hanzo's and vice versa. Hanzo's poison is so potent it can be absorbed through the skin (manga fact). If and when ANY BODY PART IS IN HUMAN FORM and it is in contact with Hanzo's poison she will be effected by the posion and Die soon after! Konan's reaction and application of her Paper jutsu is Slow as ****! And she for a fact cannot do two different things at once. For ex: when He was attacking with her paper wings and Jman literally rolled out the way and

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. Hanzo him self produces a super poison, and the salamander a second poison! She has horrible reaction feats (manga fact) and she isn't fast at dodging anything. The salamanders poison range is so enormous and potent that She and all of her paper will indeed get hit! If any and i mean Any of her body is still in human mode (which it will be) she loses! Plus with The blind side of the Poison smoke cloud taking away her eye sight, Hanzo would blitz any part that is in human form and either Blow her up with his own paper tags or Throw explosive Kunais which have two affects 1. Poison if she allows it to hit human form, or Explode when she or her paper side steps!

And I never stated while in paper form she would be affected, but rather when she uses any of the paper that came into contact with the poison

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; based on when Jman Oiled all her paper near her, when she reformed partially the spots/parts on her hair/head that was previously white paper was also oiled thus affecting her true self when human form in that spot. She in fact will have poison in her body by default at that point of emergence with paper to real body part. Paper is infact an Absorbent, and Poison is a Liquid gaseous that will indeed latch onto paper based on it's substance and material.



This is a Literally easy win for Hanzo! Anything else?

 

[Curse Mark]

First off Mifune is for a fact

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(summon) poison so your first post is null and void.

You misinterpreted the manga Yet again RR. Poison does not need to be ingested in order for it to be effective (life fact). Toxin's and chemicals (poison) can simply be absorbed through your skin if Potent enough or strong enough (life fact). When hanzo told Mifune to eat the poison 1: he didnt know

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, 2: He literally seen Mifune inhale a

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, then proceeded to say "eat the poison and die" as a result. 3: It takes a while for the absorb affect to happen but the inhale affect is obviously quicker to your blood stream. 4: Mifune is covered head to toe except his head and mouth/nose which makes easy access to your inner body thus blood stream.

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He is literally the only ninja blocking his mouth and Nose! This is indisputable!! The fellow ninjas in the red who didnt block the inhale and concentrated Poison are literally knocked out!! Kankuro who later was able to talk even though his body went numb didnt receive the same affects as his comrades because he for a fact blocked the poison (i literally zoomed in! Mifune when younger and wasn't immune to his poison when in contact (whether absorbed or not, doesn't matter)

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Then ofc to end the notion that skin contact isn't affected is the fact he himself literally stated "I can envenomate nearby ppl JUST BY BREATHING ON THEM" Do you know what "ON THEM" means??? that means NO Injection, NO Inhale on there part, No Breach of Skin. This is literally Manga proof his poison is that deadly! Only a Idiot would deny at this point, But just incase some one is an idiot:





A short distance is atleast with in 5 meters People! With out his mask ALL CLOSE COMBAT will get you killed just by being by him! Manga fact!



Incorrect! Unlike Kakuzu's tech His inners are always That black stuff! While

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like Suigetsu is water or Sasori is puppet.
Manga fact; When any of her body isn't in "paper chakra form" he is vulnerable to ALL REAL LIFE AFFECTS! Manga fact! For example; If her chest is in Human mode and she gets stabbed she bleeds! If her face/head is in human form and gets scratched and poison her entire body in general is affected!

Manga fact number two: she cannot Turn a body part that is binded by an opponent into paper, she has to preform into paper in advance based on manga facts. Proof will be handed as soon as the first person denies it!






You simply do not get it-it would seem. Sasori's Poison isn't Hanzo's and vice versa. Hanzo's poison is so potent it can be absorbed through the skin (manga fact). If and when ANY BODY PART IS IN HUMAN FORM and it is in contact with Hanzo's poison she will be effected by the posion and Die soon after! Konan's reaction and application of her Paper jutsu is Slow as ****! And she for a fact cannot do two different things at once. For ex: when He was attacking with her paper wings and Jman literally rolled out the way and

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. Hanzo him self produces a super poison, and the salamander a second poison! She has horrible reaction feats (manga fact) and she isn't fast at dodging anything. The salamanders poison range is so enormous and potent that She and all of her paper will indeed get hit! If any and i mean Any of her body is still in human mode (which it will be) she loses! Plus with The blind side of the Poison smoke cloud taking away her eye sight, Hanzo would blitz any part that is in human form and either Blow her up with his own paper tags or Throw explosive Kunais which have two affects 1. Poison if she allows it to hit human form, or Explode when she or her paper side steps!

And I never stated while in paper form she would be affected, but rather when she uses any of the paper that came into contact with the poison

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; based on when Jman Oiled all her paper near her, when she reformed partially the spots/parts on her hair/head that was previously white paper was also oiled thus affecting her true self when human form in that spot. She in fact will have poison in her body by default at that point of emergence with paper to real body part. Paper is infact an Absorbent, and Poison is a Liquid gaseous that will indeed latch onto paper based on it's substance and material.



This is a Literally easy win for Hanzo! Anything else?

I was just wondering about what you said her not being able to reform when someone grabbed it

 

[Null Man]

Incorrect! Unlike Kakuzu's tech His inners are always That black stuff! While

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like Suigetsu is water or Sasori is puppet.
Manga fact; When any of her body isn't in "paper chakra form" he is vulnerable to ALL REAL LIFE AFFECTS! Manga fact! For example; If her chest is in Human mode and she gets stabbed she bleeds! If her face/head is in human form and gets scratched and poison her entire body in general is affected!

Manga fact number two: she cannot Turn a body part that is binded by an opponent into paper, she has to preform into paper in advance based on manga facts. Proof will be handed as soon as the first person denies it!

You are showing me a scan of Konan being vulnerable in her human form, which is no thing I questioned at any point. Not to mention your arguments holds no weight due to Konan

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from exerting her chakra pool into manipulating the six hundred billion paper tags of the PPGO Technique, which she plainly stated. To add on top of that, Konan was completely caught off guard because she was certain her technique killed Obito as she states: "My paper Angel technique wore off. I didn't think I'd use so much chakra but it's finally over. Madara must be.. Dead"". Fact is, that her Paper form absolutely alters her inner organs into paper sheets clearly shown every time the technique is in usage. As shown when

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, which isn't questionable.

As far as Hanzo's arsenal goes, he has no definite way to force Konan into depleting her chakra reserves so much that it would affect her ability to transform into her Paper form. And even by then, the only instance Konan canonically came close to that was after extensively overexerting herself by using the Paper Emissary, which as stated in the manga depletes almost all her chakra. Hanzo is forever forced into a defensive position since he has no real way to deal with explosive paper clones, let alone catch an airborne Konan, who by the way has full intel on the poison gas cloud.

 

[Draegod]

You are showing me a scan of Konan being vulnerable in her human form, which is no thing I questioned at any point. Not to mention your arguments holds no weight due to Konan

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from exerting her chakra pool into manipulating the six hundred billion paper tags of the PPGO Technique, which she plainly stated. To add on top of that, Konan was completely caught off guard because she was certain her technique killed Obito as she states: "My paper Angel technique wore off. I didn't think I'd use so much chakra but it's finally over. Madara must be.. Dead"". Fact is, that her Paper form absolutely alters her inner organs into paper sheets clearly shown every time the technique is in usage. As shown when

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, which isn't questionable.

As far as Hanzo's arsenal goes, he has no definite way to force Konan into depleting her chakra reserves so much that it would affect her ability to transform into her Paper form. And even by then, the only instance Konan canonically came close to that was after extensively overexerting herself by using the Paper Emissary, which as stated in the manga depletes almost all her chakra. Hanzo is forever forced into a defensive position since he has no real way to deal with explosive paper clones, let alone catch an airborne Konan, who by the way has full intel on the poison gas cloud.

You literally didn't get anything I posted it would seem. I showed you Tobi grabbing her neck before she tried to self destruct, hanzo cannonly having her arms tied up and she didn't escape etc. never did I state that when a paper is in full seperated paper form it would be effected. I stated two things that are fact which is when a body part is not in paper mode or partial mode she can be harmed or affected like normal. Her Jutsu isn't automatic nor is in 24/7, she isn't like suigetsu and his clan. This is fact

If a part is in body form comes in contact with his poison then she lose. Period, super simple. And you misunderstand her Jutsu completely, it wasn't 600 bill paper bombs, nor did she have to control all the paper, the bombs were in sequence for explosion. If they all went off at the same time the explosion time based on a single explosion would be a few seconds. Basically it was a chain explosion which doesn't take much chakra since one explosion causes another etc.

He dodges every attack no diff, blows up all "paper clone explosions" premature to him no diff. She is slow, predictable, horrible reflexes and doesn't have a infinite amount of paper. He wins easy once poison lands on her or her paper.

 

[Beans2]

You simply do not get it-it would seem. Sasori's Poison isn't Hanzo's and vice versa. Hanzo's poison is so potent it can be absorbed through the skin (manga fact). If and when ANY BODY PART IS IN HUMAN FORM and it is in contact with Hanzo's poison she will be effected by the posion and Die soon after! Konan's reaction and application of her Paper jutsu is Slow as ****! And she for a fact cannot do two different things at once. For ex: when He was attacking with her paper wings and Jman literally rolled out the way and

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. Hanzo him self produces a super poison, and the salamander a second poison! She has horrible reaction feats (manga fact) and she isn't fast at dodging anything. The salamanders poison range is so enormous and potent that She and all of her paper will indeed get hit! If any and i mean Any of her body is still in human mode (which it will be) she loses! Plus with The blind side of the Poison smoke cloud taking away her eye sight, Hanzo would blitz any part that is in human form and either Blow her up with his own paper tags or Throw explosive Kunais which have two affects 1. Poison if she allows it to hit human form, or Explode when she or her paper side steps!

And I never stated while in paper form she would be affected, but rather when she uses any of the paper that came into contact with the poison

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; based on when Jman Oiled all her paper near her, when she reformed partially the spots/parts on her hair/head that was previously white paper was also oiled thus affecting her true self when human form in that spot. She in fact will have poison in her body by default at that point of emergence with paper to real body part. Paper is infact an Absorbent, and Poison is a Liquid gaseous that will indeed latch onto paper based on it's substance and material.



This is a Literally easy win for Hanzo! Anything else?

This is all irrelevant. Because Hanzo's poison gas only affects the target if it's inhaled by the user.

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Kankuro clearly inhaled the poison because he was

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. The only reason he would be coughing is if he inhaled the poison.

Then there's the fact that Hanzo explains how the poison sac in his body would make a toxic gas cloud and kill anyone who breathes it in [

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]. Hanzo's poison should work the same way that Ibuse's does considering they are both salamander poisons, if not the exact same poison. The idea of poison gas affecting someone that does not breathe it in is entirely baseless. RedRobin already explained this to you.

Konan simply has to go into her paper form at the beginning of the battle, which renders her immune to poison 100%. After that, it's just a matter of dispersing the poison cloud with paper bombs and blowing up the Salamander with explosions until it comes down to CQC where Konan simply has to stick a few paper bombs to Hanzo's body

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.