Choji + Ay (fused into one character) vs Base Hashirama

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Ay would win against Base Hashirama, but please slap yourself if you think he can take on SS and not get turned to a red/brown/white clump of flesh.

ChoAy stomps SM Hashirama :bdpf:
 

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Ay would win against Base Hashirama, but please slap yourself if you think he can take on SS and not get turned to a red/brown/white clump of flesh.

Considering the full 8 Gates was said to magnify the user's power by 100, and Gai, who in base is weaker than
v2 Ay, could do so much damage to Madara, even if he had help, then Ay whose power gets magnified by 100
destroys SM Hashirama before he can even react.

Heck, seeing the huge holes caused just by the air pressure Gai was creating in 8 Gates, V2 Ay * 100 literally
launches a thousand punches of his own faster than Shisuusenjuu can, and each of those punches will
be stronger than any of Shisuusenjuus. He utterly shits.

Unless you think any single punch of Shisuusenjuu is as powerful as 8 Gates Gai's... and even then Ay would
be stronger.
 

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Not quite sure if Choji saying he was a 100 times more powerful was meant to be taken as a literal number to multiply his power by lol.
 

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There's base Base Raikage, then there's Base Gai, THEN THERE'S CLOAKED RAIKAGE:Sparks:,
then there's 8Gates Gai, and on top of them all is Cloaked Butterfly Mode Aye.

The pill was what made him 100x stronger than before and allowed him to use butterfly mode. Butterfly doesn't multiply his strength by 100.
 

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Considering the full 8 Gates was said to magnify the user's power by 100, and Gai, who in base is weaker than
v2 Ay, could do so much damage to Madara, even if he had help, then Ay whose power gets magnified by 100
destroys SM Hashirama before he can even react.


Heck, seeing the huge holes caused just by the air pressure Gai was creating in 8 Gates, V2 Ay * 100 literally
launches a thousand punches of his own faster than Shisuusenjuu can, and each of those punches will
be stronger than any of Shisuusenjuus. He utterly shits.

Unless you think any single punch of Shisuusenjuu is as powerful as 8 Gates Gai's... and even then Ay would
be stronger.

Good thing Ay doesn't have Gates here. He doesn't have Choji's pill either.

Can we stop giving Gai's feats to Ay? Gai being able to use air pressure to attack=/=Ay being able to do so. If you want to try and equate it to strength, then why doesn't everyone physically superior to 8th Gate Gai make shockwaves like that when they attack? :lol. Jutsu specific.

Another funny thing is that you assume Ay can throw 1000 punches in the time Shinsuusenju can throw 1000 punches with it's 1000 arms. Ay's singular punch being stronger than SS's singular punch is irrelevant, because SS can attack quicker and it's overall damage far surpasses anything Gai or Ay could hope to achieve.

Chojo Kebutsu turns him into paste.
 

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Wtf is this? fusion like Gotenks? .-.
 

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ChoAy murders him and SS.
Butterfly Chouji is considered a fast character (not by god standards of course) but Chouji is super slow. He gains Sakura like Strength, and Chouji can grow to the size of a boss summon.
Ay is KCM level speed, and has enormous chakra. He's extremely durable, and has his own low level super strength.

A V2 Butterfly Bullet Tank would decimate portions of SS, if a Giant Butterfly Lightning Straight doesn't do it. He would blitz Hashi.

it's just an unfair blend of power.
 
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