BM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke

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Conditions: War Arc Naruto/Sasuke
Intel: Manga
Location: VOTE
Distance: Normal starting positions on each head
Restrictions: BSM, Frog Song, and Bijudama of any kind

KG probably knows where I'm going with this considering how VOTE 2 scaling works
 

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Flash Bijuu Dama obviously shits.
 

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Naruto still wins.
 

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Give Naruto BSM to make this fair
 

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Sasuke obviously tears him apart with these restrictions.
 

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Aside from unorthodoxs usual wank, Naruto outlasts. Only conceivable way he wins is if he can use Chidori via Susanoo, and i dont think he can.

Tails counter Sasukes only useful offense, and they stalemate in CQC till the guy without the Bijuu falls because of stamina.
 

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Aside from unorthodoxs usual wank, Naruto outlasts. Only conceivable way he wins is if he can use Chidori via Susanoo, and i dont think he can.

Tails counter Sasukes only useful offense, and they stalemate in CQC till the guy without the Bijuu falls because of stamina.

This.

Granted there's the stamina argument, but with these restrictions they're equal.
Sasuke obviously tears him apart with these restrictions.

They stalemate
 

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Rasengans are human mode bijudamas, and anything past it is
just an upgraded human bijudama. Sasuke tears him apart with those restrictions
needless to say.
:bdpf:
 

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Rasengans are human mode bijudamas, and anything past it is
just an upgraded human bijudama. Sasuke tears him apart with those restrictions
needless to say.
:bdpf:

Not happening when their avatars are dead equal in pysical capability (Other than Naruto's tails being more durable than the body or Sasuke's PS, but that doesn't change anything)
 

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Not happening when their avatars are dead equal in pysical capability (Other than Naruto's tails being more durable than the body or Sasuke's PS, but that doesn't change anything)

lmao wat can naruto do in his avatar aside from rasengan and bijudama? scratch?
Sasuke can meanwhile use arrows, form fanfic PS, and solo slash.
 

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Aside from unorthodoxs usual wank, Naruto outlasts. Only conceivable way he wins is if he can use Chidori via Susanoo, and i dont think he can.

Tails counter Sasukes only useful offense, and they stalemate in CQC till the guy without the Bijuu falls because of stamina.

Change of heart I see.

Ot: agree with op
 

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Given how naruto effortlessly blocked sasuke PS slashes in VOTE, leads me to believe that no matter what sasuke does, he is never really breaching the kurama avatar.
Granting him PS chidori, is still not helpful when its still only equivalent to a regular TBB which naruto can tank with very less damage. and its only draining sasukes reserves even more.

Physically both the constructs are on par with each other. so neither of them are falling down especially since naruto is restricted from using TBB
making it a battle of attrition, where sasuke loses his PS way before naruto does, since he has synced with kurama alot more now.

naruto outlasts and then easily takes him out.
 

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Maybe BM Rasengan can't match PS Chidori, but im sure a BM fuuton rasengan could match it. And a BM Rasenshuriken would beat chidori.
Naruto out last.
 

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Change of heart I see.

Ot: agree with op

I'll back KG up on that one. Only because he was the first I saw use VOTE2 scaling, and he did say that it would scale to BSM. Then I chimed in that the chakra is already Senjutsu, so it would scale back to BM to which he agreed.

I've seen him go ny that ever since, and that was when the chapters for the fight were coming out.
lmao wat can naruto do in his avatar aside from rasengan and bijudama? scratch?
Sasuke can meanwhile use arrows, form fanfic PS, and solo slash.

His PS isn't fanfic and none of that does anything to Naruto's avtar.

They stalemate, or Naruto outlasts. My purpose with the thread was to prove the former.
 
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Sasuke's PS Chidori would logically be usable without Rikudo chakra. Only because the PS is composed of Rikudo chakra doesn't mean it does anything other then increase its durability/strength/etc. There's absolutely nothing leading me to believe it's the reason he can channel his Raiton nature through it. And no, him not having done it without Rikudo chakra is not a viable argument, it just means he didn't do it, it does not prove he can't nor does it suggest such a thing. Enton is also a KKG chakra nature and he's channeled it just fine through his Susano in the past, so any chakra control arguments are irrelevant. Anyways, Kishi wanted Naruto and Sasuke to be somewhat equals at all stages of the manga. Naruto's BM vs Sasuke's PS would've been a stalemate, and Sasuke's PS+CM was supposed to stalemate Naruto's BSM. If you restrict anything from the two then logically speaking, the unrestricted one would win.
 
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